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Hillary Refused To Call Boko Harum "Terrorists"

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The 2010 Trafficking in Persons report described the United States as, "a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced labor, debt bondage, and forced prostitution." Sexual slavery in the United States may occur in multiple forms and in multiple venues. Sex trafficking in the United States may be present in Asian massage parlors, Mexican cantina bars, residential brothels, or street-based pimp-controlled prostitution. The anti-trafficking community in the United States is debating the extent of sexual slavery. Some groups argue that exploitation is inherent in the act of commercial sex, while other groups take a stricter approach to defining sexual slavery, considering an element of force, fraud or coercion to be necessary for sex slavery to exist.

The prostitutes in illegal massage parlors may be forced to work out of apartment complexes for many hours a day. Many clients may not realize that some of the women who work in these massage sex parlors are actually forced in prostitution. The women may initially be lured into the US under false pretenses. In huge debt to their 'owners', they are forced to earn enough to eventually "buy" their freedom. In some cases women who have been sex trafficked may be forced to undergo plastic surgery or abortions. A chapter in The Slave Next Door (2009) reports that human trafficking and sexual enslavement are not limited to any specific location or social class. It concludes that individuals in society need to be alert to report suspicious behavior, because the psychological and physical abuse occurs which can often leave a victim unable to escape on their own.

In 2000 Congress created the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act with tougher punishments for sex traffickers. It provides for the possibility for former sex slaves to obtain a T-1 visa. To obtain the visa women must, "prove they were enslaved by 'force, fraud or coercion'." The visa allows former victims of sex trafficking to stay in the United States for 3 years and then apply for a green card.

The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) has been suspected of trafficking underage women across state lines, as well as across the US–Canada and US–Mexico borders, for the purpose of sometimes involuntary plural marriage and sexual abuse. The FLDS is suspected by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police of having trafficked more than 30 under-age girls from Canada to the United States between the late 1990s and 2006 to be entered into polygamous marriages. RCMP spokesman Dan Moskaluk said of the FLDS's activities: "In essence, it's human trafficking in connection with illicit sexual activity." According to the Vancouver Sun, it's unclear whether or not Canada's anti-human trafficking statute can be effectively applied against the FLDS's pre-2005 activities, because the statute may not be able to be applied retroactively. An earlier three-year-long investigation by local authorities in British Columbia into allegations of sexual abuse, human trafficking, and forced marriages by the FLDS resulted in no charges, but did result in legislative change. Former FLDS members have also alleged that children belonging to the sect were forced to perform sexual acts as children upon older men while being unable to leave. This has been described by numerous former members as sexual slavery, and was reported as such by the Sydney Morning Herald, One former resident of Yearning for Zion, Kathleen Mackert, stated: "I was required to perform oral sex on my father when I was seven, and it escalated from there.

Abuse of women and trafficking of women as sex slaves goes on thruout the world- including in the U.S... By people of all religions- all nationality's and colors.... It is Criminal Activity- and should be treated as such....

Should I fear and hate all my Mormon friends- because a few whackos of a couple of their sects have engaged in criminal activity :???:

Should I hate all Fundamentalist Baptist because I convicted and sent one of their Ministers to prison for "marrying" and having sex with his daughters when they reached puberty- using his own cockeyed belief in the Bible to justify it :???:
 

hypocritexposer

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The 2010 Trafficking in Persons report described the United States as, "a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced labor, debt bondage, and forced prostitution.

The US government subjects their own citizens to forced labor, due to debt bondage...

...I think Palin was called a racist, when she wrote the same... :roll:
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Oldtimer said:
iwannabeacowboy said:
OT,

I'm trying to understand the Independent voter mindset... Is it your opinion that Willy is correct and that the violence is due to poverty, or do you hold the opinion that the violence is due to religious persecution/intolerance?

bump...

In ways both... Just like you see the highest criminal activity in the poorer sections of the U.S., I think that it is true around the world- poverty and despair breeds criminal activity and violence...
Then you add years of political strife- and many living under the old colonization days -- with generations of wars making refugees (no homeland) out of many-- with some Mullah's that preach that this poverty/political problem is because of your religion- and that dying as a religious martyr takes you straight to heaven-- and you end up with a bunch of criminal zealots....

One of the better examples is the Afghanistan area... It has been for years ran by the drug lords- and apparently still are from this article about Karachi- which has been one of the major export areas for Opium/Heroin... And the political zealots are tied right in with the criminal zealots...

Karachi, one of the fastest-growing megacities on the planet, is becoming a new front in Pakistan's war on terror as the Taliban moves to the streets from the mountains. Mixed with poverty, gangs and political violence, the insurgency makes the metropolis an extreme case of the chaos and commerce that coexist in some of the developing world's growing urban centers.

"You've got other cities where the problem is of crime or criminal gangs taking over parts of the city like Rio de Janeiro," said Sakib Sherani, chief executive officer at Macroeconomic Insights, an Islamabad-based research firm. "But Karachi is unique because it represents a failure of the state, where the state has initially ceded to organized crime and now it has ceded to armed militias."

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Since the 1970s, Karachi has been racked by violence among armed wings of political parties and criminals linked to weapons suppliers and drug mafias. As many as 10,693 people were killed between 2008 and 2012, according to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, more than the number of U.S military forces killed during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Residents are bracing for worse after a split between rural and urban Taliban factions in February. As much as 20 percent of Karachi is controlled by the Taliban, who run courts and extort money from people and businesses, says Amanullah Mehsud, a member of the Awami National Party, which comprises mainly Pashtuns, the insurgency's main ethnic group.

Criminal Alliances
While authorities reject the claim that the Taliban controls a fifth of the city, Shahid Hayat, the city's police chief, says gangs have allied with the insurgents.

"It's all meshed up," Hayat said in an interview. "They develop inter-linkages -- local criminals start using the terrorists and the terrorists start using the local criminals."


The result is a city where people from every walk of life live under daily threat -- from the kidnapping of the wealthy to middle-class workers having their phones taken at gunpoint to street vendors caught in a bomb blast.

"I don't know anybody in Karachi who hasn't been held up," said Sayem Ali, an economist at Standard Chartered, who was born and raised in the city. "The big problem is kidnapping and extortion."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/karachi-joins-chaos-commerce-taliban-190100882.html

Ok, so if it is due to poverty, what is the crime stats of beheadings, kidnappings and rapes committed by Christians in mooslum controlled areas due to not only being in a poverty stricken area (this can just be assumed because of it being a mooslum controlled area) AND having to pay a jizya tax (tax for not being mooslum) in addition?

Surely this increased financial burden (poverty) would lead to some very impressive violence stats to drive this poverty = violence hypothesis home?

Maybe Reader 1+2 can produce some indepth information on all this? Christian poverty induced rapes, murders, and enslavement rates in moooslem controlled areas paying the jizya vs mooslem caused rapes, murders, and enslavement not paying the tax.
 
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I you want beheadings and killings by Christians in a country of poverty- you only have to look next door to Mexico-- and then look at these Christian Druglords tombs:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mexican+drug+lords+tombs&qpvt=mexican+drug+lords+tombs&FORM=IGRE

Do you think all those cross's will buy them into heaven...
 

iwannabeacowboy

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iwannabeacowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
iwannabeacowboy said:

In ways both... Just like you see the highest criminal activity in the poorer sections of the U.S., I think that it is true around the world- poverty and despair breeds criminal activity and violence...
Then you add years of political strife- and many living under the old colonization days -- with generations of wars making refugees (no homeland) out of many-- with some Mullah's that preach that this poverty/political problem is because of your religion- and that dying as a religious martyr takes you straight to heaven-- and you end up with a bunch of criminal zealots....

One of the better examples is the Afghanistan area... It has been for years ran by the drug lords- and apparently still are from this article about Karachi- which has been one of the major export areas for Opium/Heroin... And the political zealots are tied right in with the criminal zealots...

Karachi, one of the fastest-growing megacities on the planet, is becoming a new front in Pakistan's war on terror as the Taliban moves to the streets from the mountains. Mixed with poverty, gangs and political violence, the insurgency makes the metropolis an extreme case of the chaos and commerce that coexist in some of the developing world's growing urban centers.

"You've got other cities where the problem is of crime or criminal gangs taking over parts of the city like Rio de Janeiro," said Sakib Sherani, chief executive officer at Macroeconomic Insights, an Islamabad-based research firm. "But Karachi is unique because it represents a failure of the state, where the state has initially ceded to organized crime and now it has ceded to armed militias."

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Since the 1970s, Karachi has been racked by violence among armed wings of political parties and criminals linked to weapons suppliers and drug mafias. As many as 10,693 people were killed between 2008 and 2012, according to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, more than the number of U.S military forces killed during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Residents are bracing for worse after a split between rural and urban Taliban factions in February. As much as 20 percent of Karachi is controlled by the Taliban, who run courts and extort money from people and businesses, says Amanullah Mehsud, a member of the Awami National Party, which comprises mainly Pashtuns, the insurgency's main ethnic group.

Criminal Alliances
While authorities reject the claim that the Taliban controls a fifth of the city, Shahid Hayat, the city's police chief, says gangs have allied with the insurgents.

"It's all meshed up," Hayat said in an interview. "They develop inter-linkages -- local criminals start using the terrorists and the terrorists start using the local criminals."


The result is a city where people from every walk of life live under daily threat -- from the kidnapping of the wealthy to middle-class workers having their phones taken at gunpoint to street vendors caught in a bomb blast.

"I don't know anybody in Karachi who hasn't been held up," said Sayem Ali, an economist at Standard Chartered, who was born and raised in the city. "The big problem is kidnapping and extortion."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/karachi-joins-chaos-commerce-taliban-190100882.html

Ok, so if it is due to poverty, what is the crime stats of beheadings, kidnappings and rapes committed by Christians in mooslum controlled areas due to not only being in a poverty stricken area (this can just be assumed because of it being a mooslum controlled area) AND having to pay a jizya tax (tax for not being mooslum) in addition?

Surely this increased financial burden (poverty) would lead to some very impressive violence stats to drive this poverty = violence hypothesis home?

Maybe Reader 1+2 can produce some indepth information on all this? Christian poverty induced rapes, murders, and enslavement rates in moooslem controlled areas paying the jizya vs mooslem caused rapes, murders, and enslavement not paying the tax.

waiting......
 
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What is the poverty status of Christians in these Muslim countries compared to the Muslims? What is the poverty status of Jews in Palestine compared to that of the Muslims?...


I have no crime and/or poverty stats for foreign countries- I posted the one I know the best- Mexico... Beheadings, family slaughter, kidnappings, rapes, and mass murders- with the victims being Christians killed by Christians in one of the most Christian countries of the world...
Wiki says Mexico is 82.7% Catholic- 9.7 Protestant and Mormon- 2-4.5% being Santa Muerte Religion, with a very small number of the indigenous population in Chiapas that practices Islam...
 

Martin Jr.

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Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. Gilbert K. Chesterton


There is a difference between practicing one's religion and claiming to belong.

It still remains that in the 20th century, more people have been killed by non Christians than by Christians in all the previous 20 centuries combined.
 
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Martin Jr. said:
Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. Gilbert K. Chesterton


There is a difference between practicing one's religion and claiming to belong.

It still remains that in the 20th century, more people have been killed by non Christians than by Christians in all the previous 20 centuries combined.

Apparently you don't recognize the Holocaust or all those killed during both World Wars with Germany- both Allies and Axis :???:
While Hitler himself had pretty much spurned his Christian upbringing- he used Christianity to help obtain power and the populace of the country before both wars (which provided the soldiers that carried out the wars) had a long history of Christianity- with the majority being Protestant....

And while during WWI Germany took as one of its allies the Ottoman Empire- a majority Islamic area- which after losing the war- and the subsequent dividing it up into countries under colonial control is what brought about much of the hatred the Arab and Muslim countries have now for the rest of the world...
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Martin Jr. said:
Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. Gilbert K. Chesterton


There is a difference between practicing one's religion and claiming to belong.

It still remains that in the 20th century, more people have been killed by non Christians than by Christians in all the previous 20 centuries combined.

Apparently you don't recognize the Holocaust or all those killed during both World Wars with Germany- both Allies and Axis :???:
While Hitler himself had pretty much spurned his Christian upbringing- he used Christianity to help obtain power and the populace of the country before both wars (which provided the soldiers that carried out the wars) had a long history of Christianity- with the majority being Protestant....

And while during WWI Germany took as one of its allies the Ottoman Empire- a majority Islamic area- which after losing the war- and the subsequent dividing it up into countries under colonial control is what brought about much of the hatred the Arab and Muslim countries have now for the rest of the world...


The Muslim Nazi Connection:

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/the-muslim-nazi-connection/

“..the only religion I respect is Islam, the only prophet I admire is the prophet Muhammad..”

“..Hence today, I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator, by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of ALLAH.”
-Adolf Hitler | Mein Kampf

Footnote* Mein Kampf was an "Autobiographical Manifesto" published in 1925-1926. :roll:

Why do you continue to write about chit you no nothing about and end up lying everytime? :???:
 

Traveler

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Martin Jr. said:
Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. Gilbert K. Chesterton


There is a difference between practicing one's religion and claiming to belong.

It still remains that in the 20th century, more people have been killed by non Christians than by Christians in all the previous 20 centuries combined.

Apparently you don't recognize the Holocaust or all those killed during both World Wars with Germany- both Allies and Axis :???:
While Hitler himself had pretty much spurned his Christian upbringing- he used Christianity to help obtain power and the populace of the country before both wars (which provided the soldiers that carried out the wars) had a long history of Christianity- with the majority being Protestant....

And while during WWI Germany took as one of its allies the Ottoman Empire- a majority Islamic area- which after losing the war- and the subsequent dividing it up into countries under colonial control is what brought about much of the hatred the Arab and Muslim countries have now for the rest of the world...


The Muslim Nazi Connection:

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/the-muslim-nazi-connection/

“..the only religion I respect is Islam, the only prophet I admire is the prophet Muhammad..”

“..Hence today, I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator, by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of ALLAH.”
-Adolf Hitler | Mein Kampf

Footnote* Mein Kampf was an "Autobiographical Manifesto" published in 1925-1926. :roll:

Why do you continue to write about chit you no nothing about and end up lying everytime? :???:
Very interesting link.
 

redrobin

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Oldtimer said:
While Hitler himself had pretty much spurned his Christian upbringing- he used Christianity...
You are the same. You use Christianity for a cover when you aren't a Christian. You are a deist at best.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Oldtimer said:
What is the poverty status of Christians in these Muslim countries compared to the Muslims? What is the poverty status of Jews in Palestine compared to that of the Muslims?...


I have no crime and/or poverty stats for foreign countries- I posted the one I know the best- Mexico... Beheadings, family slaughter, kidnappings, rapes, and mass murders- with the victims being Christians killed by Christians in one of the most Christian countries of the world...
Wiki says Mexico is 82.7% Catholic- 9.7 Protestant and Mormon- 2-4.5% being Santa Muerte Religion, with a very small number of the indigenous population in Chiapas that practices Islam...

So the entirety of Mexico is religious? Interesting.....

So, are the Cartels killing over different Catholic sects (Martin will at least find the humor in this :lol:), Protestant denominations, Mormon teachings, or the Indigenous Islamic flavor :roll:?

I'm very curious. I work with someone that runs Charolais with her spouse on a nice spread in mountains of Chihuahua. I think she will be curious as well. :lol:

My mother-in-law (who has a very high melatonin content of her skin) knows a thing or two about Mexico, but she wasn't aware of the Christian-Christian fighting by the Cartels. She was under the impression the killing was all about the narcotic trade. :???:

My wife grew up on the border and wasn't as familiar with this Mexican Christian Crusade either.

Like ol' LJ, I've done a bit of traveling. LJ, I really don't think you will find anything better for your money on this side of the border than Villa Del Mar, in El Paso. There is also one in Ciudad Juarez, since you mentioned it. You can eat like a king for much of nothing. It is a sea food joint (as you can tell by the name), but with a real deal Mexican restaurant atmosphere- Fresh limes for your chips, two types of salsa, home made tortillas and a soup served before every meal. Never thought I would eat much less like a fish soup, but I'd eat there weekly if I could.

I apologize for the divergence, but it seemed like LJ was trying to find a good restaurant in North America the other day.

Anyway, I've personally spent quite a bit of time down south as well. Are you sure you want to continue with this diversion or would you like to regroup and try another? Maybe take a wider loop?

If wiki made you an expert on Mexico, do they not have anything on Muslim controlled countries?

Still waiting on that blistering data to prove your poverty point in muslum controlled countries in addition to what religious differences all this violence in Mexico is about.

Oh, meant to ask, when Obama was supplying guns to Mexican Cartels, did he know this was about religious persecution?
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Martin Jr. said:
Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. Gilbert K. Chesterton


There is a difference between practicing one's religion and claiming to belong.

It still remains that in the 20th century, more people have been killed by non Christians than by Christians in all the previous 20 centuries combined.

Apparently you don't recognize the Holocaust or all those killed during both World Wars with Germany- both Allies and Axis :???:
While Hitler himself had pretty much spurned his Christian upbringing- he used Christianity to help obtain power and the populace of the country before both wars (which provided the soldiers that carried out the wars) had a long history of Christianity- with the majority being Protestant....

And while during WWI Germany took as one of its allies the Ottoman Empire- a majority Islamic area- which after losing the war- and the subsequent dividing it up into countries under colonial control is what brought about much of the hatred the Arab and Muslim countries have now for the rest of the world...


The Muslim Nazi Connection:

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/the-muslim-nazi-connection/

“..the only religion I respect is Islam, the only prophet I admire is the prophet Muhammad..”

“..Hence today, I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator, by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of ALLAH.”
-Adolf Hitler | Mein Kampf

Footnote* Mein Kampf was an "Autobiographical Manifesto" published in 1925-1926. :roll:

Why do you continue to write about chit you no nothing about and end up lying everytime? :???:

Ouch!
 

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