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Hillary the dishonest candidate?

Red Robin

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Clinton Camp Admits To Planting Questions
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Share November 09, 2007 9:06 PM

Eloise Harper Reports: The Clinton campaign has admitted to planting questions in Iowa. They have confirmed that a campaign staffer approached a student to ask Sen. Clinton a question about global warming during a campaign stop at a biodiesel plant in Newton, Iowa, on Nov. 6.

The story was first reported by Patrick Caldwell, a junior at Grinnell College and the features editor of The Scarlet and Black college newspaper. He reported that student Muriel Gallo-Chasanoff was approached by the campaign to ask a question. She told the reporter that "they wanted a question from a college student." She also said that she "noted that staffers prompted Clinton to call on her and another who had been approached before the event, although Clinton used her discretion to select questions and called on people who had not been prepped beforehand. Some of the questions asked were confusing and clearly off-message."

Clinton Campaign spokesperson Mo Elleithee tells ABC News that "on this occasion a member of our staff did discuss a possible question about Sen. Clinton's energy plan at a forum. However, Sen. Clinton did not know which questioners she was calling on during the event. This is not standard policy and will not be repeated again."

The staffer still remains with the Clinton campaign and they would not reveal his or her name. The campaign did not comment on whether this is the only time they have planted questions among audience members.

Last month Clinton got into a tough exchange with Iowan Randall Rolph at an event in New Hampton, Iowa. She accused him of being a plant from another campaign and the two engaged in a heated back and forth. The exchange prompted extended media coverage.
 

don

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i don't know why anyone would expect clinton to be honest. she knows what it takes to win. she watched what rove & co. did and figured out if the repubs want to use those tactics she'll have to beat them at their own game. from my naive canadian perspective i think the usa has sunk so far from what it was that it's probably on a long decline and just telling people to go to church, be straight and don't have abortions isn't going to fix it. ther's a lot more to civilization than that.
 

Red Robin

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don said:
i don't know why anyone would expect clinton to be honest. she knows what it takes to win. she watched what rove & co. did and figured out if the repubs want to use those tactics she'll have to beat them at their own game. from my naive canadian perspective i think the usa has sunk so far from what it was that it's probably on a long decline and just telling people to go to church, be straight and don't have abortions isn't going to fix it. ther's a lot more to civilization than that.
I agee that there is more to a civilization than the things you mentioned. There is a lot more to a house than the foundation but for all the effort you put in a good roof, the topline won't be worth much if the foundation isn't secure and sturdy. If our nation is in disrepair as you say, It's the cracks in the foundation that's causing it, not the shingles. BTW if you think that rove taught hillary how to be crooked you're wrong. She was crooked here in Arkansas long before washington was a possibility. You have only known her since she was president. We were done with her by then and many of us warned of her antics. Much like several of us here know that Huckabee, while a long way better than hillary, isn't a Ronald Regan that some think he is.
 

Steve

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Not long ago this happened,... and some people on here felt it was dishonest...and appeared :shock:

ff
Did you watch it yesterday? The Director did a good job handling the questions, right? Well, he should have. They weren't from reporters; they were from FEMA employees! :roll:

OldTimer
A continuation of the smoke and mirrors facade that has been advocated all along by this Administration--but they got caught this time, and now have to make things look good... :( :(

ff
Business as usual for these guys. Tell a lie, make excuses if you get caught, promote the guy telling the lie.

KolanuRaven
Bottom line.... the President thinks American people are dumber than he is!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

but then again I did agree with ff a little... as she and a few others often buy what Hillary says... just because she is not Bush...

kolanuraven wrote:
Bottom line.... the President thinks American people are dumber than he is!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

ff
From reading this board, some of them are. :)

yep if you guys believe Fema is the only one posing fake questions,.. then I still have another bridge to sell... :shock:
:roll:

But then I did like Mike's response...
That's about as comical as the time Bush was giving a speech in a U.S. manufacturers warehouse and there were boxes behind him with the words "Made in China" printed on them. :shock:
 

Goodpasture

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Red Robin said:
Eloise Harper Reports: The Clinton campaign has admitted to planting questions in Iowa. They have confirmed that a campaign staffer approached a student to ask Sen. Clinton a question about global warming during a campaign stop at a biodiesel plant in Newton, Iowa, on Nov. 6.

I know you really think this is significant. But I have no real problem with asking a student to ask about an issue the student is concerned about to ask a question that will make a good sound bite. The question is honest. The student is honest. Does it sound like a canned question? Yes, and probably should not have happened that way.

In the circumstances of the FEMA press conference, the attendees were not journalists, but employees. They were handed scripted questions so the scripted answers would appear to be meaningful.

If Hillary had put campaign member "students" in the crowd and she was told who to point to for the next question, and the campaign member student read the scripted question off a cue card and Hillary responded by reading a scripted response off a cue card, they you might have reason to complain. At least real people asked real questions as well. It wasn't a hand picked group with the real people warehoused three miles from the site where they wouldn't cause a disturbance for the speaker, the way Bush holds his speeches.
 

Steve

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Don
from my naive Canadian perspective i think the USA has sunk so far from what it was that it's probably on a long decline and just telling people to go to church, be straight and don't have abortions isn't going to fix it. ther's a lot more to civilization than that.

and electing a conniving liberal will help "civilization"???




connive verb pronunciation (kə-nīv')
intr.v., -nived, -niv·ing, -nives.

IN BRIEF: To be blissfully ignorant; to be tolerant of wrong-doing.

[Latin cōnīvēre, connīvēre, to close the eyes.]
 

Steve

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GoodPasture:
I know you really think this is significant.

Lets see... It's okey for Hillary to do it...but not okey for fema,.. Bush or conservatives to do it... Maybe you should look up the definition of hy·poc·ri·sy..


although Clinton used her discretion to select questions and called on people who had not been prepped beforehand. Some of the questions asked were confusing and clearly off-message."
your right... liberals are so stupid the must be "fed questions"....

just so they don't sound stupid, and off message,... and so liberal media can then "create a good sound bite".


But then again if she can't handle tough questions,.. maybe she should just quit and cry here way home... where-ever that is...

Last month Clinton got into a tough exchange with Iowan Randall Rolph at an event in New Hampton, Iowa. She accused him of being a plant from another campaign and the two engaged in a heated back and forth. The exchange prompted extended media coverage.

nothing worse then a little brat whining about others not playing fair when she is caught cheating...

No GoodPasture, this is significant, it goes to character....and she is lacking in that...
 

Mrs.Greg

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Red Robin said:
don said:
well it's the american way that got you where you are.
You are correct. The worlds greatest nation. Long may she live.
Luv ya RR but I personally believe my country is the worlds greatest,its all a matter of perseption :) What you percieve isn't nessasarily what I percieve.
 

Steve

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Don
well it's the american way that got you where you are.

Not to insult the rest of the fine Canadians... But I would rather be where I am then be where you are...

and hundreds of thousands of Canadians agree with me...

Canadians have a long history of migrating to the United States.

# There are over 820,000 foreign born from Canada in the United States.
# The foreign born from Canada represent the eighth-largest immigrant group in the United States.
# Immigrants from Canada account for over 2 percent of the total foreign-born population.
# The states with the largest number of immigrants from Canada are California and Florida.
#Canadians represent over 97 percent of the North American Free Trade Agreement workers admitted to the United States in 2002.
#the number of foreign born from Canada in the United States increased by 10 percent.

Although it was originally expected that many Americans would move to Canada after US President George Bush was re-elected, that has not happened.

Many Americans visited the Canadian government's immigration website in large numbers immediately after Bush defeated John Kerry in the presidential race. But official figures show the number of Americans actually applying to reside in Canada actually dropped in the six months following the election.

And while the numbers were not huge — 10,942 Americans moved to Canada last year

Lets see...Millions of Canadians agree with me and like it here in the USA, and 10,942 think it's so bad they Moved to Canada...
 

Red Robin

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Mrs.Greg said:
Red Robin said:
don said:
well it's the american way that got you where you are.
You are correct. The worlds greatest nation. Long may she live.
Luv ya RR but I personally believe my country is the worlds greatest,its all a matter of perseption :) What you percieve isn't nessasarily what I percieve.
No problem Mrs. Greg . You can be wrong if you want to. :lol:
 

Mrs.Greg

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Steve,I'm not discounting what you posted I just wish you would give your source when you post...thx

As much as I may appreciate the US,I will never be one crossing the border to live,I LOVE my country.

So many moving to California and Florida would make me think....seniours looking for warmer climates,if you don't know this info,we really don't have those kind of temps here. :p
 

Goodpasture

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Steve said:
GoodPasture:
I know you really think this is significant.

Lets see... It's okey for Hillary to do it...but not okey for fema,.. Bush or conservatives to do it... Maybe you should look up the definition of hy·poc·ri·sy...
Your hatred of Hillary (our next President) has you blinded.
the situation is not similar at all except in your own little narrow mind. You are so focused on hatred that you lose your perspective and objectivity.

Let's see if I can explain this.

Hillary's people asked independent people to ask a question at a campaign speech.

FEMA filled a room with employees, TOLD them to ask specific questions, which was then passed off as a press conference.

If you can't see the difference you are far more stupid than I thought.
 

Steve

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GoodPasture
Your hatred of Hillary

First,..I don't hate Hillary....

In fact I don't hate any one.. I have never allowed myself to even loath any one...

I don't like you.. I don't like Hillary...

nothing Blind about that....

The big difference is that I also think what Hillary and fema did were both dishonest, and conniving... if they want to pose questions and answers,.. let them do it in a "press release"..


but as usual when you can't defend your point you resort to insults...
 

Steve

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Mrs. Greg
Steve,I'm not discounting what you posted I just wish you would give your source when you post...thx

As much as I may appreciate the US,I will never be one crossing the border to live,I LOVE my country.

So many moving to California and Florida would make me think....seniors looking for warmer climates,if you don't know this info,we really don't have those kind of temps here.

Sorry I usually try to grab the source, but the first was from a PDF document, and it didn't directly link..


Our area (southern New Jersey) has a large population of Canadians.. most are seasonal.. and welcome.. I have never considered Canadians to be a problem and have always enjoyed our open border...

I have been to Canada so many times I can't count,... and really like your country....


but lately we have been seeing a influx of those who transit/or migrate to Canada and then illegally re-locate to the US... and sadly it appears to be a growing problem.. thus some find it as a reason to tighten our northern border..

But just because I disagree with your countries politics is not a reason to insult that country, as don has done on many occasions...
 

don

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show me one insult. not just disagreements but actual derogatory comments. i may have but a heck of a lot less than most people have thrown around at different races, nationalities (including slurs like japs, mescans, etc.) or insults made about gender. is calling me a liberal an insult? used to be a compliment meaning open to new ideas. maybe all the good ideas were hatched in the 1770's or when the bible was written and rewritten? i guess i have made smart comments about bush and cheney but if they're true they're not insults just statements of fact.
 

Steve

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seems Hillary is so used to Posed questions... that she can't handle others who question her...

Rolph was one of several hundred people who turned out in this small town in northern Iowa for Clinton's appearance. When she called on him for a question, he pulled out a piece of paper and read a question about Iran.

"Well, let me thank you for the question, but let me tell you that the premise of the question is wrong and I'll be happy to explain that to you," Clinton began.

She offered a detailed description of the resolution, which she said stressed robust diplomacy that could lead to imposing sanctions against Iran, and then pointedly said to Rolph that her view wasn't in "what you read to me, that somebody obviously sent to you."

The exchange, which became so heated that it wound up on the evening news,

Two days later, after seeing Mrs. Clinton, he said he had ruled her out, “not only based on our exchange, but by the manner in which she answered questions from others.”


so now she "plants" questions... so she can calmly answer them for the liberal media sound bites...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/us/politics/12web-zeleny.html
 
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