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Hillary's Skeleton

Texan

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BORIS. BILL, AND MONICA: TROUBLE FOR HILLARY?
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Wednesday, 25 October 2006



Will the saga of the world's most famous fellatrice return to haunt Hillary in 2008? There's this fascinating whisper making the Washington rounds that says yes.

While convoluted and circumstantial, a number of plugged-in Washingtonians believe it. The story starts with Boris Yeltsin.

Yeltsin was President of Russia from its emergence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 to 1999. In October of 2000, part three of his autobiography was published, Midnight Diaries. In it, there was an astounding revelation:

That in "late 1996," after Bill Clinton's re-election in November, he (Yeltsin) received a highly classified report from his Foreign Intelligence Service (Russian acronym SVR, formerly a branch of the KGB). Russian intel had learned that the President of the United States was having an affair with an intern named Monica Lewinsky.

This was over a full year before the world learned of the scandal via the Drudge Report internet website on January 19, 1998.

Lewinsky's first tryst with Clinton was in November 1995. Her last ones were March 28 and 29, 1997, as shown by White House Security logging her in to visit the Oval Office. In her testimony for Ken Starr's Grand Jury, she told of a curious comment of Clinton's after she performed her services: that he was worried about a "foreign power listening in" to their activities and conversations.

He was especially concerned about the many phone-sex conversations he had with her, calling her from the White House and Air Force One.

Somehow, it seems, Clinton had learned of Yeltsin's SVR memo. Who told him?

Suspicion has focused on a meeting in Moscow between Clinton confidante Strobe Talbot and Russian power-broker Anatoly Chubais on March 5, 1997 - three weeks before Clinton told Monica of his "worry."

Talbot was far more than just Deputy Secretary of State. A fellow Rhodes Scholar with Clinton at Oxford, he was one of Bill's most closely trusted friends. Fluent in Russian, his contacts among the Russian power elite were deep. One of his best contacts was Anatoly Chubais.

Yeltsin had placed Chubais in charge of the "privatization" program selling off Soviet state enterprises. It was a multi-multi-billion dollar scam, creating "oligarch" billionaires, of whom Chubais became one himself.


The scam, however, was threatened with exposure by the IMF (International Monetary Fund). By early 1997, Chubais's looting of the Russian economy was so vast that a complete crash was imminent. A "rescue package" of billions in IMF loans was required to stave off disaster. The green eyeshades at the IMF examining Russia said no way, José. Chubais was desperate.

Yeltsin told Chubais of the SVR memo [Clinton's & Monica Lewinsky]. Chubais asked his buddy Talbot to come and see him in Moscow, where he explained that if the IMF loan wasn't approved, he might not be able to keep the lid on Lewinsky. The President of the United States was being blackmailed.

Thus Larry Summers, Clinton's new Treasury Secretary, who had before was aghast at even the hint of approving IMF loans to Russia, suddenly began calling Chubais and his cronies a "Dream Team" for their "superb" job of running the Russian economy.

The IMF loan was approved, the lid on Lewinsky kept on, and not until Linda Tripp taped her phone talks with Monica in November 1997 and Drudge got wind of it, did the scandal break. The IMF loan did its job, temporarily staving disaster off until August, 1998, when the Russian economy collapsed into almost total meltdown.

Now - what has all this to do with Hillary?

One of Hillary Clinton's closest friends and traveling companions is a lady named Brooke Shearer. She retains her maiden name, for she is Strobe Talbot's wife. She also just happened to be working at the White House in charge of the White House intern program.

The thinking goes that it is inconceivable that Talbot would not tell his wife that one of her interns was fellating the president and being blackmailed by the Russkies for it - and that she would not tell Hillary.

One can easily imagine how explosively Hillary would have reacted, and how she would have demanded Bill cave to the Russian IMF demands. Thus her fingerprints would be all over a blackmail payoff of billions of American taxpayer dollars, and the resultant impoverishment of millions of Russians.

She'll be questioned on this during her 2008 campaign - as she will on so much else. The Russian Blackmail story will be one of many skeletons lurking in her presidential wannabe closet. It's yet another example of why so many Dems, desperate to recapture the White House, are so busy flogging alternatives to her.

Alternatives such as Barack Obama. That the Dems would hysterically hype a guy whose total national experience has been being a Senator for 21months (since January 2005), and whose total real world business experience was working one single year for a company while in his early 20s (an entry-level job with the Business International Corporation), shows how terrified they are that Hillary will doom their White House dreams.

The Russian Blackmail scandal will make an interesting addition to the Democrats' Hillary Nightmare.
 

Texan

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Ooops....I should have checked before I posted that. Is it okay to say "fellatrice" in here? Hope it's spelled right....

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Soapweed

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Thanks for posting this, Texan. It is an eye-opener. I always get a kick out of the word "inconceivable" in the context of a story such as this. :wink:

I have to give the National Enquirer credit where credit is due. They broke this story several months before any other news media did.

It will be interesting to sit back and see how this all works out.
 

Faster horses

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Talking about security clearances with President Bush, have
you read the book, "Denied Access", R2?
Written by an ex FBI man that lived in the White House, it shows how Clintons got their people in the White House without security clearances.
What they did is a disgrace to our country.

And, truth be known, neither Bill or Hillary would have
cleared security scrutiny as told in that book, therefore
the name, "Denied Access."

I'd suggest you read that book.
 

Faster horses

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Well, regardless, this book is written about the Clintons.
It's also interesting to note the differences this man points
out in the outgoing Bush people and the incoming Clinton people.

Talk about night and day. No wonder we are at such a moral
crossroads in this country. Too much of immoral Bill Clinton
for too long.
 

katrina

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As for Hilary, I am against her because she can't win and that's why other Democrats are against her.

I find this quite interesting, because I think she has the democratic presidentcy locked up.... Reader who do you want to see???

Can we beat a Hillery/ Obama run for the presidentcy???? I don't know who it will be for the repubs??? McCain?, Gulianino? or Gingrich???
 
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katrina said:
As for Hilary, I am against her because she can't win and that's why other Democrats are against her.

I find this quite interesting, because I think she has the democratic presidentcy locked up.... Reader who do you want to see???

Can we beat a Hillery/ Obama run for the presidentcy???? I don't know who it will be for the repubs??? McCain?, Gulianino? or Gingrich???

I didn't think Hillary was electable-- but if the Republican party keeps falling apart and splitting like it currently is- whoever is the Democrat nominee will walk in.... :roll: They need to make some firm moves to satisfy the conservative side and to show the blue collar moderates that their goal is not to sell out the country to Big Business and China, Mexico, and Canada-- and they need to do it quick or I think the Democratic convention will be picking the next President....
 

Disagreeable

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Oldtimer said:
katrina said:
As for Hilary, I am against her because she can't win and that's why other Democrats are against her.

I find this quite interesting, because I think she has the democratic presidentcy locked up.... Reader who do you want to see???

Can we beat a Hillery/ Obama run for the presidentcy???? I don't know who it will be for the repubs??? McCain?, Gulianino? or Gingrich???

I didn't think Hillary was electable-- but if the Republican party keeps falling apart and splitting like it currently is- whoever is the Democrat nominee will walk in.... :roll: They need to make some firm moves to satisfy the conservative side and to show the blue collar moderates that their goal is not to sell out the country to Big Business and China, Mexico, and Canada-- and they need to do it quick or I think the Democratic convention will be picking the next President....

I think you're right. If Bush decides to send more troops to Iraq, there will be hell to pay in the Republican Party. Especially if he does it against the wishes of the generals on the ground in Iraq and they are on record as saying they do not need more American troops. The only way to save the Republican Party may be for Republicans to call for his impeachment. Republican Senator Smith used an interesting term when he changed his mind on Iraq. He called the war possibly "criminal."

I think Hillary can win if she gets the nomination. It's a long hard trail to 2008, but she's been through the fire already. Almost anything to be known about Hillary is known. I just saw some polls on TV that showed her beating McCain. His stock seems to be falling as he snuggles up to the Religious Right and calls for more troops in Iraq. The polls show Rudy can beat Hillary by a few points, but Bay Buchanan says Conservatives won't turn out to vote for him if he's the nominee.

There will be more Republicans up for re-election in the Senate and House than Democrats in 2008, thus more of them are at risk of losing their seats. Unless things turn around in 2007, the Republicans are in for a bad, bad election cycle. Dems made inroads in Texas in 2007, inroads in the west and the mid west. More Republicans in Kansas are jumping ship and reregistering as Dems. People are fed up with the hate filled speech from Republicans and being sold out to big business. There's talk that several older Congressional Republicans won't run for re-election in 2008 if the Iraq war is still going on. They just don't have the heart to slug it out in the current conditions. An open Congressional seat is always easier to take than an occupied seat.
 
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One move that would bring GW a lot of the true conservatives backing and also the backing of the moderate blue collars and independents would be to make immediate moves and slam the border shut tight-- and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

But Bush is too wishy washy to do this- as it would mean going against his Corporate benefactors and against his current party advisors that believe if they can play a moderate role on the immigrant issue they will get many of these illegal aliens to become Republicans-- which is about as likely as snow on the 4th of July in Pensacola.... :roll: :wink:

Nope- Scarily every day that ticks by is putting Hillary closer to moving back into the White House- and all she has to do is sit there and watch the Republican party self destruct... :( :cry: :mad:
 

jigs

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dis, a link please on the Kansas tide turning to the dark side.

I am not so sure . it must be the Wichita and Topeka crowd they are polling..... lot of union and liberal freaks in those towns.

I saw once where Lawrence Kansas was one of the top ten towns nation wide for being mean to the homeless...... I wonder how many homeless are in Lawrence?
 

Mike

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and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

OT, Illegal immigration didn't start yesterday or the day before. The payroll taxes witheld from these peoples paychecks have been propping up government income for a loooooong time.

That's free money!

Say half of the illegal workforce (10 mil.) has payroll deductions of 25% on a gross income of $500 per week.

That comes to $1.25 BILLION per week!

And if they are illegal, they ain't getting that back in the form of a tax return!
 

jigs

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Mike said:
and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

OT, Illegal immigration didn't start yesterday or the day before. The payroll taxes witheld from these peoples paychecks have been propping up government income for a loooooong time.

That's free money!

Say half of the illegal workforce (10 mil.) has payroll deductions of 25% on a gross income of $500 per week.

That comes to $1.25 BILLION per week!

And if they are illegal, they ain't getting that back in the form of a tax return!

are you implying that there are crooked politicians???
 

Mike

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are you implying that there are crooked politicians???

No need for implications there jigs. :lol:

It's just that the government has gotten used to all this free money, and if it stops now, or had stopped 10 years ago, our economy is in shambles.

Our taxes would skyrocket!
 
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Mike said:
and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

OT, Illegal immigration didn't start yesterday or the day before. The payroll taxes witheld from these peoples paychecks have been propping up government income for a loooooong time.

That's free money!

Say half of the illegal workforce (10 mil.) has payroll deductions of 25% on a gross income of $500 per week.

That comes to $1.25 BILLION per week!

And if they are illegal, they ain't getting that back in the form of a tax return!

Oh I agree-- its been going on for years-- but has gotten much worse in the last 10-- and then since 9/11 has gotten a great deal more publicity which has brought it to the forefront...Much of that publicity put out by the Administration/Republican Congress in their quest for strong Homeland Security Laws-- which now they have, but still have done nothing about the porous borders, the 15 million illegal immigrants/terrorists already in the country or the additional millions that come in yearly....

You can't preach that your strong on Homeland Security on one hand and then on the other allow anyone from anywhere in the world to enter and run unchecked thruout the country.....Them thar folks back home ain't that dumb nomore.... :wink:

As far as the taxes- if the country goes bellyup because we stop illegal worker activity, its in worse shape than any of us thought it was...

I wonder how many Billion $ worth of drugs come across that border too, that also ultimately costs us Billions $ in taxpayer services.......
 

P Joe

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Mike said:
and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

OT, Illegal immigration didn't start yesterday or the day before. The payroll taxes witheld from these peoples paychecks have been propping up government income for a loooooong time.

That's free money!

Say half of the illegal workforce (10 mil.) has payroll deductions of 25% on a gross income of $500 per week.

That comes to $1.25 BILLION per week!

And if they are illegal, they ain't getting that back in the form of a tax return!

How much money do illegals cost us in the way of welfare and food stamps and other gov programs?
 

Disagreeable

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Oldtimer said:
One move that would bring GW a lot of the true conservatives backing and also the backing of the moderate blue collars and independents would be to make immediate moves and slam the border shut tight-- and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

But Bush is too wishy washy to do this- as it would mean going against his Corporate benefactors and against his current party advisors that believe if they can play a moderate role on the immigrant issue they will get many of these illegal aliens to become Republicans-- which is about as likely as snow on the 4th of July in Pensacola.... :roll: :wink:

Nope- Scarily every day that ticks by is putting Hillary closer to moving back into the White House- and all she has to do is sit there and watch the Republican party self destruct... :( :cry: :mad:

I don't think anything will bring Bush back. I think he's toast. The only question, in my mind, is will the Republican party go down with him? There are stories around that he's willing to accept some tax increases in exchange for getting Social Security "fixed." The Dems are still adamant in opposing personal accounts and they're in a much stronger position than they were two years ago. So it will be Bush who blinks if he wants to get Social Security reform done. His legacy ain't looking too good right now. He may be willing to cut a deal to get fixing Social Security on his record. That won't set well with Conservatives. Remember "Read My Lips"?
 
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Disagreeable said:
Oldtimer said:
One move that would bring GW a lot of the true conservatives backing and also the backing of the moderate blue collars and independents would be to make immediate moves and slam the border shut tight-- and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

But Bush is too wishy washy to do this- as it would mean going against his Corporate benefactors and against his current party advisors that believe if they can play a moderate role on the immigrant issue they will get many of these illegal aliens to become Republicans-- which is about as likely as snow on the 4th of July in Pensacola.... :roll: :wink:

Nope- Scarily every day that ticks by is putting Hillary closer to moving back into the White House- and all she has to do is sit there and watch the Republican party self destruct... :( :cry: :mad:

I don't think anything will bring Bush back. I think he's toast. The only question, in my mind, is will the Republican party go down with him? There are stories around that he's willing to accept some tax increases in exchange for getting Social Security "fixed." The Dems are still adamant in opposing personal accounts and they're in a much stronger position than they were two years ago. So it will be Bush who blinks if he wants to get Social Security reform done. His legacy ain't looking too good right now. He may be willing to cut a deal to get fixing Social Security on his record. That won't set well with Conservatives. Remember "Read My Lips"?

One of the conservative publications the other day had a story on Bush's "legacy"-- and that is about what they said...They said that he is finally facing up to the fact that Iraq is unfixable and will be a huge blot on his record- so now is looking for something positive that his Presidency can be remembered for-- But they thought he would go after Immigration Reform and make that his priorority....

Not sure if Chertoffs moves against Swift and the aliens were that of an honest bureaucrat FINALLY doing his job-- or a political yes boy doing his Presidents beckoning to stir up enough controversy to get immigration back on the top burner so a bill can be passed and GW can have a "legacy"..... :???:
 

Disagreeable

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jigs said:
dis, a link please on the Kansas tide turning to the dark side.

I am not so sure . it must be the Wichita and Topeka crowd they are polling..... lot of union and liberal freaks in those towns.

I saw once where Lawrence Kansas was one of the top ten towns nation wide for being mean to the homeless...... I wonder how many homeless are in Lawrence?

Do a Google search for Kansas Republicans + Democrats. There are several stories. A former head of the KS Republican party switched and ran as a Dem this year.

Here's the KC Star Buzz Blog link. This particular page is devoted to Republicans. One of the postings "Mod Squad eyes Kansas, warns GOP
It has been noticed in DC that among the Democratic victors in Kansas were three former Republicans: Lt. Gov.-elect Mark Parkinson, Attorney General-elect Paul Morrison, and Congresswoman-elect Nancy Boyda.

"They were us," said Sarah Chamberlain Resnick, executive director of the Republican Main Street Partnership, a moderate Republican group. "And they left the party and ran as Democratic versions of us. In Kansas! We're not talking the East Coast here. Kansas!"

Resnick's conclusion: "If all the moderates leave this party, you've got a southern minority party."


http://kcbuzzblog.typepad.com/kcbuzzblog/kansas_gop/index.html
 
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P Joe said:
Mike said:
and start heavily enforcing the immigration laws, including those against business's and start deporting the illegals by the droves...

OT, Illegal immigration didn't start yesterday or the day before. The payroll taxes witheld from these peoples paychecks have been propping up government income for a loooooong time.

That's free money!

Say half of the illegal workforce (10 mil.) has payroll deductions of 25% on a gross income of $500 per week.

That comes to $1.25 BILLION per week!

And if they are illegal, they ain't getting that back in the form of a tax return!

How much money do illegals cost us in the way of welfare and food stamps and other gov programs?

State's "cheap labor" costs average household $1,183 a year
Dateline: December, 2004
In hosting America's largest population of illegal immigrants, California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

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This was in 2004 for just California alone- and it was $10.5 billion per year...How much is it now since they've been coming across faster than mating jack rabbits- and how much does that mean its costing all the state and the Federal taxpayers :???: :(
 

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