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Someone want to pick hole in this for me please? I'm not up on american history so someone else has gotta know if this is BS or not.

History Lesson

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.


Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in
a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid
in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
 

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Mike said:
The irony is disturbing!

Simply chilling, Silver!! just as chilling is the fact that you, a canadian, probably know more about US history than your average american high school student!! Hmmmmmmm......
 

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Silver said:
Someone want to pick hole in this for me please? I'm not up on american history so someone else has gotta know if this is BS or not.

History Lesson

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.


Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in
a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid
in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
Silver - the irony of all this is that it is true! I have seen this several times before and no one has refuted any of this. The one 'glitch' in the report, if you want to get picky, is that the third word from the end (with) should be "in".
 

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DOC HARRIS said:
Silver said:
Someone want to pick hole in this for me please? I'm not up on american history so someone else has gotta know if this is BS or not.

History Lesson

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.


Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in
a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid
in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
Silver - the irony of all this is that it is true! I have seen this several times before and no one has refuted any of this. The one 'glitch' in the report, if you want to get picky, is that the third word from the end (with) should be "in".




I think you are totally correct on this stuff, Doc. Keep up the good work!
 

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While the similarities are there, think of the great opposites.

Lincoln was from a struggling pioneering farming/carpenter family that moved from state to state.
Kennedy was raised in a business-oriented home in urban wealth.

Lincoln had a father who looked down on his taking time to read.
Kennedy's father provided the most expensive schooling.

Lincoln was a self-made man with no help from daddy in politics.
Kennedy was....?
 

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Not sure, but I think John Wiulkes Booth hid out in a barn loft, not a warehouse. At least he was found in a barn.
Very interesting though Silver.
 

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Sierraman said:
Not sure, but I think John Wiulkes Booth hid out in a barn loft, not a warehouse. At least he was found in a barn.
Very interesting though Silver.
HEY . . . . A barn is a warehouse for . . . . HAY! :wink:
 

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Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy
Lincoln was born in 1809; Kennedy in 1917.
Lincoln's secretary was not named Kennedy. His name was John Nicolay. And although Kennedy's secretary was named Evelyn Lincoln, Lincoln is hardly an uncommon name.
Lincoln grew up poor; Kennedy was rich.
Lincoln was a Republican; Kennedy a Democrat.
Kennedy was a Catholic; Lincoln a Deist.
Kennedy personally served in a war; Lincoln did not.
John Wilkes Booth was from Maryland. This hardly makes him a Southerner.
John Wilkes Booth was born in 1838, not 1839.
Both assassins were not "known by their three names." This is a construct of historians. It's not like Booth was commonly called "John Wilkes" by his friends, and as far as I can tell, Oswald didn't go by "Lee Harvey." Historians often refer to famous people and infamous people by three names (if they have three names). Examples: John Quincy Adams; William Henry Harrison; William Howard Taft; Franklin Delano Roosevelt; Dwight David Eisenhower; John Fitzgerald Kennedy; Lyndon Baines Johnson -- and I bet that, as time goes on, the current president will come to be referred to by historians as George Walker Bush, to distinguish him from his father (sounds better in a history book that way, as opposed to George W.). Other examples come from non-presidents -- Sarah Jessica Parker. Well, I don't want to spend all day thinking these up, but you get the point.
Although Booth did "run from a theater," it was a live theater, while Oswald was caught in a movie theater. More glaringly, Booth was not caught in a "warehouse." He was killed while cavalry officers attempted to capture him, while he was hiding out in a barn. Moreover, Oswald shot Kennedy, who was in the open air (Lincoln was not), from a public school book depository where he worked (which I'm not sure qualifies as a "warehouse").
Booth was not assassinated, he was killed while cavalry officers attempted to apprehend him. (An officer fired at Booth's arm in order to disarm him, but Booth moved at the same time and was killed.) Oswald was assassinated, but by a nightclub owner (Jack Ruby), someone completely unrelated to the government (unless you believe the conspiracy theories, but then that casts doubt on whether Oswald killed Kennedy, in any event).
Kennedy most definitely was not with Marilyn Monroe a week before he was assassinated. Monroe died more than a year before Kennedy was shot. Moreover, I have my doubts about whether Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland one week before he was shot. Five days before he was shot, General Lee surrendered to General Grant (in Virginia). I would be surprised if Lincoln, while busy with events surrounding the surrender of Lee and the end of the Civil War, would take the time to visit a small community in the "panhandle" of Maryland (keeping in mind that, by the travel methods of the day, it would have been a significant, several-day trip, not a few hours drive as it would be today).
Although Lincoln was shot on a Friday, he died on a Saturday. Kennedy, on the other hand, died almost immediatly.
It is not surprising that would-be assassins aim for the head. Besides, Lincoln was shot with a pistol, while Kennedy was shot with a rifle.
Lincoln had THREE children who died young (one while Lincoln was in office). Kennedy had only ONE child who died young (which occurred while Kennedy was in office) and another who was stillborn (which was before Kennedy became President), for a total of TWO.
Kennedy did not lose his mother in childhood, but Lincoln did.
As for their Congressional terms, Lincoln was indeed elected to the House in 1846. However, he served only one term of two years, and never again served in the U.S. Congress. Moreover, he was defeated twice in election bids to the U.S. Senate. Kennedy, however, remained in Congress from 1946 (technically he took office in early January 1947) until he was inaugurated as President, including two successful elections to the Senate (elected to House in 1946, 1948 and 1950; elected to Senate in 1952 and 1958), and Kennedy never lost an election.
Lincoln served as President for over four years (he was just into his second term when he was shot). Kennedy served less then 3 years.
Related to this, Andrew Johnson only served out the term to which Lincoln was elected. Lyndon Johnson served out Kennedy's term, then was elected to another full term.
Also, Andrew Johnson was impeached (but not removed from office). Lyndon Johnson was never impeached, nor was it ever suggested that he should be.
Lincoln was born in Kentucky (South) and grew up in Illinois (Midwest); Kennedy was from Massachusetts (NE).
Lincoln practiced law for a long period of time before becoming president; Kennedy never formally practiced law.
Lincoln's brother was never assassinated and never served as Attorney General, as did Kennedy's brother (Bobby). And Lincoln didn't have another brother who was a long-time Senator, as is Kennedy's other brother (Teddy).
Lincoln successfully presided over the North during the Civil War. Kennedy's only involvement in armed conflict as a President was a disaster -- the Bay of Pigs.
Kennedy famously had at least one mistress, and probably many more. As far as history tells, Lincoln had no mistresses (and it's not a matter of it being further back in time; we know that Jefferson fathered children by a slave; we know that Benjamin Franklin was a chronic womanizer (as defined today); etc.).
And the list could go on and on....
 

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knowalot said:
Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy
Lincoln was born in 1809; Kennedy in 1917.
Lincoln's secretary was not named Kennedy. His name was John Nicolay. And although Kennedy's secretary was named Evelyn Lincoln, Lincoln is hardly an uncommon name.
Lincoln grew up poor; Kennedy was rich.
Lincoln was a Republican; Kennedy a Democrat.
Kennedy was a Catholic; Lincoln a Deist.
Kennedy personally served in a war; Lincoln did not.
John Wilkes Booth was from Maryland. This hardly makes him a Southerner.
John Wilkes Booth was born in 1838, not 1839.
Both assassins were not "known by their three names." This is a construct of historians. It's not like Booth was commonly called "John Wilkes" by his friends, and as far as I can tell, Oswald didn't go by "Lee Harvey." Historians often refer to famous people and infamous people by three names (if they have three names). Examples: John Quincy Adams; William Henry Harrison; William Howard Taft; Franklin Delano Roosevelt; Dwight David Eisenhower; John Fitzgerald Kennedy; Lyndon Baines Johnson -- and I bet that, as time goes on, the current president will come to be referred to by historians as George Walker Bush, to distinguish him from his father (sounds better in a history book that way, as opposed to George W.). Other examples come from non-presidents -- Sarah Jessica Parker. Well, I don't want to spend all day thinking these up, but you get the point.
Although Booth did "run from a theater," it was a live theater, while Oswald was caught in a movie theater. More glaringly, Booth was not caught in a "warehouse." He was killed while cavalry officers attempted to capture him, while he was hiding out in a barn. Moreover, Oswald shot Kennedy, who was in the open air (Lincoln was not), from a public school book depository where he worked (which I'm not sure qualifies as a "warehouse").
Booth was not assassinated, he was killed while cavalry officers attempted to apprehend him. (An officer fired at Booth's arm in order to disarm him, but Booth moved at the same time and was killed.) Oswald was assassinated, but by a nightclub owner (Jack Ruby), someone completely unrelated to the government (unless you believe the conspiracy theories, but then that casts doubt on whether Oswald killed Kennedy, in any event).
Kennedy most definitely was not with Marilyn Monroe a week before he was assassinated. Monroe died more than a year before Kennedy was shot. Moreover, I have my doubts about whether Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland one week before he was shot. Five days before he was shot, General Lee surrendered to General Grant (in Virginia). I would be surprised if Lincoln, while busy with events surrounding the surrender of Lee and the end of the Civil War, would take the time to visit a small community in the "panhandle" of Maryland (keeping in mind that, by the travel methods of the day, it would have been a significant, several-day trip, not a few hours drive as it would be today).
Although Lincoln was shot on a Friday, he died on a Saturday. Kennedy, on the other hand, died almost immediatly.
It is not surprising that would-be assassins aim for the head. Besides, Lincoln was shot with a pistol, while Kennedy was shot with a rifle.
Lincoln had THREE children who died young (one while Lincoln was in office). Kennedy had only ONE child who died young (which occurred while Kennedy was in office) and another who was stillborn (which was before Kennedy became President), for a total of TWO.
Kennedy did not lose his mother in childhood, but Lincoln did.
As for their Congressional terms, Lincoln was indeed elected to the House in 1846. However, he served only one term of two years, and never again served in the U.S. Congress. Moreover, he was defeated twice in election bids to the U.S. Senate. Kennedy, however, remained in Congress from 1946 (technically he took office in early January 1947) until he was inaugurated as President, including two successful elections to the Senate (elected to House in 1946, 1948 and 1950; elected to Senate in 1952 and 1958), and Kennedy never lost an election.
Lincoln served as President for over four years (he was just into his second term when he was shot). Kennedy served less then 3 years.
Related to this, Andrew Johnson only served out the term to which Lincoln was elected. Lyndon Johnson served out Kennedy's term, then was elected to another full term.
Also, Andrew Johnson was impeached (but not removed from office). Lyndon Johnson was never impeached, nor was it ever suggested that he should be.
Lincoln was born in Kentucky (South) and grew up in Illinois (Midwest); Kennedy was from Massachusetts (NE).
Lincoln practiced law for a long period of time before becoming president; Kennedy never formally practiced law.
Lincoln's brother was never assassinated and never served as Attorney General, as did Kennedy's brother (Bobby). And Lincoln didn't have another brother who was a long-time Senator, as is Kennedy's other brother (Teddy).
Lincoln successfully presided over the North during the Civil War. Kennedy's only involvement in armed conflict as a President was a disaster -- the Bay of Pigs.
Kennedy famously had at least one mistress, and probably many more. As far as history tells, Lincoln had no mistresses (and it's not a matter of it being further back in time; we know that Jefferson fathered children by a slave; we know that Benjamin Franklin was a chronic womanizer (as defined today); etc.).
And the list could go on and on....
Holy Smoke - knowalot - was this post really worth all the time and effort you devoted to it? :? :???: Having toured Lincoln's house - I just thought of another critically important bare fact of differences between the two men ( although you probably already know this ) - - Lincoln used an outdoor toilet, and, I assume, Kennedy used an - indoor toilet. :shock: Sort of gets down to the - - a - - nitty-gritty - doesn't it?
 

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