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Holder might not stay with Obama, Hilary is leaving

Faster horses

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Attorney General Eric Holder said on Thursday that he has yet to determine whether he will stay on as the chief U.S. law enforcement officer for President Barack Obama's second term.
Speaking to law students at the University of Baltimore, Holder said he still must speak with both Obama and his own family while considering what he would contribute if he stayed.

"That's something that I'm in the process now of trying to determine," he said.

Holder, 61, said the process included asking himself, "Do I think that there are things that I still want to do? Do I have some gas left in the tank?"

A White House spokesman had no comment on Holder's future.

Several Cabinet members, including Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, are weighing whether leaving before Obama's second term begins in January is the right time. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said she intends to move on.

Holder served in the U.S. Justice Department's No. 2 position under President Bill Clinton, and Obama appointed him attorney general in 2009. Both presidents are Democrats.

It is rare for an attorney general to serve more than four years, and Republicans tried to oust Holder after a botched department operation called "Fast and Furious" that targeted gun trafficking along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives dismissed a congressional inquiry into Fast and Furious as politically motivated, and the Justice Department's inspector general cleared Holder of any wrongdoing.

Holder has not previously committed one way or the other to serving in a second Obama term.

He worked on Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, and the two prominent black lawyers have similar backgrounds, including immigrant fathers and degrees from Columbia University.

There could be symbolic reasons for Holder, the first black U.S. attorney general, to stay on at least into 2013.

June will mark the 50th anniversary of the racial desegregation of the University of Alabama, where Vivian Malone - whose sister is Holder's wife - was one of the first black students.



DRUG POLICY AN ISSUE

Holder's latest comments came in response to questions from Ron Weich, dean of the University of Baltimore's law school and a former Justice Department official under Holder.

Weich asked whether Holder had thought about a second term, what his plan is and whether he might serve through 2016, a tenure that would match that of Clinton's attorney general, Janet Reno.

"I don't know why you assume my service would have to stop at 2016," Holder quipped initially, appearing at ease on stage with his former colleague.

"President Jeb Bush, President Marco Rubio, President Hillary Clinton - any one of them might ask me to stay on," he said, referring to rumored 2016 presidential candidates from both parties.

Speaking two days after voters in two states legalized marijuana for recreational use, Holder said there should be a broad discussion about U.S. drug policy.

"How much money have we spent? What are the results that we've gotten?" he said, adding that the government might need to make drug treatment a higher priority.

Asked by Weich to explain how one becomes attorney general, Holder dead-panned: "Be friends with the president."

Holder told the law students he was most proud of his having rejuvenated the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, the unit charged with enforcing anti-discrimination laws in voting, housing, education and other areas.

Democrats and civil rights organizations said this division had wandered from its core mission during Republican George W. Bush's administration.

"You can really assess how good the Justice Department is by how effective its Civil Rights Division is," Holder said.

Obama's re-election on Tuesday, defeating Republican challenger Mitt Romney, confirmed the strength of the administration's priorities, Holder said.

"The fact that he won, and as conclusively as he did, is in many ways a vindication of the policies that he talked about," he said. (Reporting by David Ingram; Editing by Howard Goller and Philip Barbara)

© 2012 Thomson/Reuters. All rights reserved.



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Since Rubio started his campaign yesterday-- its no surprise that Hillary would quit and begin hers....

Never been a Hillary fan- but if the Repubs don't get their heads out of their arses and breath some fresh air- it will be President Clinton again in 2016..
 

Faster horses

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I really like that Rubio guy. In fact, I was a bit disappointed when Romney
chose Paul Ryan. If Obama can campaign for 4 years, why can't Rubio?
 

Mike

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Rubio is not eligible. He is not a "Natural Born" citizen. Sorry, we won't break the rules at will like the Dems.
 

Faster horses

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Mike said:
Rubio is not eligible. He is not a "Natural Born" citizen. Sorry, we won't break the rules at will like the Dems.

I've actually read differently--that he is qualified. I'll see if I can find the
article.
 

Mike

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Faster horses said:
Mike said:
Rubio is not eligible. He is not a "Natural Born" citizen. Sorry, we won't break the rules at will like the Dems.

I've actually read differently--that he is qualified. I'll see if I can find the
article.

He is a citizen. That's undisputed. But that's not what the Constitution states.
 
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Faster horses said:
If Obama can campaign for 4 years, why can't Rubio?

That always has been a perk of being the incumbent- no matter if an (R) or a (D)...
 

TexasBred

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Mike said:
Faster horses said:
Mike said:
Rubio is not eligible. He is not a "Natural Born" citizen. Sorry, we won't break the rules at will like the Dems.

I've actually read differently--that he is qualified. I'll see if I can find the
article.

He is a citizen. That's undisputed. But that's not what the Constitution states.

He was born in Miami, Florida. His parent had not yet been given citizenship so I guess he would be what is now referred to as an "anchor baby". He's a citizen and qualified.
 

Mike

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TexasBred said:
Mike said:
Faster horses said:
I've actually read differently--that he is qualified. I'll see if I can find the
article.

He is a citizen. That's undisputed. But that's not what the Constitution states.

He was born in Miami, Florida. His parent had not yet been given citizenship so I guess he would be what is now referred to as an "anchor baby". He's a citizen and qualified.

I respectfully do not agree that he is eligible.

Hopefully, the Dems will bring it up.
 

Faster horses

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The good news; Rubio is eligible

I got this from American Thinker, Oct.19, 2012

Conservatives are right to be deeply committed to constitutionalism and to test all government actions against the plumb line of that great charter of liberty. We would never dismiss concerns about the constitutionality of legislation or the eligibility of persons to hold office under that Constitution the way former Speaker Nancy Pelosi dismissed objections to the legitimacy of ObamaCare. The former Speaker looked incredulously at her questioner and said: "Are you serious?" Happily, such disdain for constitutional concerns is one reason why she is the former Speaker of the House.

Don't worry, dear readers -- be happy. The good news for us is that Sen. Marco Rubio is eligible to be elected president in 2012. And so are Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley. There's been a lot of attention devoted to the original meaning of "natural born citizen of the United States," the governing phrase from Art. II, Sec. 1 of the Constitution. Happily, The Heritage Guide to the Constitution resolves this question for us.

Clearly, says this respected source, what the Founders sought to avoid was foreign intrigue, or intriguers, becoming president. Wise Founders. (Too bad they didn't also say "Marxists need not apply.")

The Guide cites the estimable John Jay, our first Chief Justice, who during the Constitutional Convention wrote to George Washington in 1787 to urge that "a strong check [be included] to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen." (Don't you love how Jay capitalizes Citizen?)

Do you have to be born within the territorial limits of the United States to be such a citizen? No, said the Founders. The Heritage Foundation's Guide shows how the First Congress in 1790 provided that "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born." This was our first naturalization statute (1 Stat. 104). This Congress contained many Members, notably James Madison himself, who had just framed the Constitution in Philadelphia.

To provide a further check on foreign intrigue, the Founders specified that a person must have been "fourteen years a Resident within the United States." Why was that necessary?

Author David McCullough provides the answer -- although that was not his purpose-in his latest smash bestseller, The Greater Journey: Americans in Paris. McCullough describes John Singer Sargent, the famous American painter. Sargent had been born in Rome to American expatriate parents. Young Sargent lived in Europe and never visited the U.S. until 1876. His wealthy mother brought him to the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia when he was 19 years old.

Could such an expatriate "natural born Citizen" become president? Not unless he returned to the U.S. and lived here 14 years, the Founders wisely provided. John Singer Sargent painted the powerful portrait of Theodore Roosevelt that today hangs in the White House, but he could not have run for the office himself.

The Founders were serious about American identity and the integrity of republican principles. It was an incredible blessing to us that George and Martha Washington had no children of their marriage. Washington had referred to this fact in the first draft of his Inaugural Address. There would be no danger of monarchy here, he said, because he had "no child for whom I could wish to make provision -- no family to build in greatness upon my country's ruin."

Now, consider Marco Rubio. His parents were resident aliens when he was born in 1971, seeking and soon to receive their status as naturalized U.S. citizens. Under the Fourteenth Amendment, "all persons born...in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the states wherein they reside." This "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause shows why Rubio is -- and, very likely, why children of illegal aliens are not -- a "natural born citizen of the United States."

We should be very careful in discussions of the Constitution to avoid the impression that we are an anti-immigrant party. To say that Rubio, Jindal, and Haley are forever barred because of a strained interpretation of the Constitution's eligibility clause would condemn conservatism to minority status for the foreseeable future. Surely, that is not what we want.

Let's remember Ronald Reagan's beautiful Farewell Address. He spoke of Vietnamese Boat People in the South China Sea.


... the sailor was hard at work on the carrier Midway, which was patrolling the South China Sea. The sailor, like most American servicemen, was young, smart, and fiercely observant. The crew spied on the horizon a leaky little boat. And crammed inside were refugees from Indochina hoping to get to America. The Midway sent a small launch to bring them to the ship and safety. As the refugees made their way through the choppy seas, one spied the sailor on deck, and stood up, and called out to him. He yelled, "Hello, American sailor. Hello, freedom man."

Today, Marco Rubio is a freedom man. So are Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley a freedom man and woman. We should be proud to have any of these children of exiles as our president.




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