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Homeless Iraqi Vets (sad)

nonothing

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why do they lose their pay checks from the army when they get home?Why are they not sleeping in barracks on home bases? I am not being sarcastic,i honestly do not know why?
 

RoperAB

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"meaning they get $2,393 a month, tax free."
Thats a fortune! Maybe not in New York City but in rural places thats a heck of a lot of money. Why dont they move?They could move to Saskatchewan or Newfondland and live like kings on that much money.
I wish my family of 4 made $2400 a month American!
 

Disagreeable

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nonothing said:
why do they lose their pay checks from the army when they get home?Why are they not sleeping in barracks on home bases? I am not being sarcastic,i honestly do not know why?

If they get out of the military (not retire), they get no benefits. Enlistment in the US Army is as short as two years now. Retirement takes 20 years (and Rumsfeld is trying to change that, too). Some of them have problems that don't show up until after they've been discharged. They are always eligible for VA benefits, but that system is totally overloaded. Some of them have emotional problems and can't settle in one spot. Some won't sleep inside; they're afraid of being confined.
 

Disagreeable

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RoperAB said:
"meaning they get $2,393 a month, tax free."
Thats a fortune! Maybe not in New York City but in rural places thats a heck of a lot of money. Why dont they move?They could move to Saskatchewan or Newfondland and live like kings on that much money.
I wish my family of 4 made $2400 a month American!

From the article:

"Almost half of America's 2.7 million disabled veterans receive $337 or less a month in benefits, according to the government. Fewer than one-tenth are rated 100 percent disabled, meaning they get $2,393 a month, tax free."

My emphasis. IMO, the worst thing is the lack of mental health counseling available to these guys. We've still got Vietnam Vets living on the streets, add the Desert Storm vets, and Bush's contribution, it's a shameful situation.

Yet the Bush Administration projects a cut in VA's budget in 2008. :mad: I guess someone has to pay for his war. Why not the vets?
 

kolanuraven

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A life long friend on my family is a Viet vet and to this day he won't sleep in the house. Lucky that he lives in the South as he sleeps on the screen porch...it's basically his bedroom. Winter and summer....that's what he does.

But he sleeps very little anyway as he has flashbacks at times. I don't know the exact reasons...but I know he's tried to gethelp but can't get the mental help he needs. He says the VA is like talking to the trees....nothing happens.
 

RoperAB

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Disagreeable said:
RoperAB said:
"meaning they get $2,393 a month, tax free."
Thats a fortune! Maybe not in New York City but in rural places thats a heck of a lot of money. Why dont they move?They could move to Saskatchewan or Newfondland and live like kings on that much money.
I wish my family of 4 made $2400 a month American!

From the article:

"Almost half of America's 2.7 million disabled veterans receive $337 or less a month in benefits, according to the government. Fewer than one-tenth are rated 100 percent disabled, meaning they get $2,393 a month, tax free."

My emphasis. IMO, the worst thing is the lack of mental health counseling available to these guys. We've still got Vietnam Vets living on the streets, add the Desert Storm vets, and Bush's contribution, it's a shameful situation.

Yet the Bush Administration projects a cut in VA's budget in 2008. :mad: I guess someone has to pay for his war. Why not the vets?

Sorry I misread the article. I wasnt meaning to twist things around.
 

nonothing

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This is the sad part or trama and war...Mental health is so fragile and hard to diagnose...It is neither a dem or repub's doing,so who ever is in charge,they need the support from the other and help these familes and men/women of wars past..It should be a jiont solution to an, to a ongoing lingering problem....You fight for your country no matter where or when,you should be given open health care,places to congragate for help and money to suport a decent lifestyle...I already know where to get the money from too.....Prisons,they dont need 3 squares and full amedities.....look at thier health care to.....if you need a operation and cant afford it,start a grow opp,get caught,go to jail for six months and relax while you recouver from your now free operation....(sorry to get started on prisions but holy **** are they a waste of good money).
 

CattleRMe

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The other problem with veterns is yes they can recieve health care at a veterns hospital but if they get sick and go to a normal hospital they don't get benefits there. For rural areas it can be hundreds of miles to a vet hospital.
 

IL Rancher

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One of the other problems is a lot of the vets are too pround or too sick to get the help they do need. A lot of mental health patients just don't see the need to get treated or are so sick they don't trust the doctors... You can't make them take their meds.. It is tragic... My dad is a veitnam vet and he talks about some of the guys he knew who just broke... Of course, he talks a lot about the guys who came out of it fine too and someone still recognizes them 30 years after the last time he saw them when he is walking through an airport.. Always creepy when he yells out "corporal smith!" and they turn their head..
 

RoperAB

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nonothing said:
This is the sad part or trama and war...Mental health is so fragile and hard to diagnose...It is neither a dem or repub's doing,so who ever is in charge,they need the support from the other and help these familes and men/women of wars past..It should be a jiont solution to an, to a ongoing lingering problem....You fight for your country no matter where or when,you should be given open health care,places to congragate for help and money to suport a decent lifestyle...quote]

I agree
I know Vets in Canada have it good.
But I dont know what its like for American Vets. I get conflicting information.
This article is one view. But then I know there are American Vets out there who would disagree with the article.
 

kolanuraven

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/07/passenger.restrained.ap/index.html


Ck this out...th guy's not homeless, I guess, but it does apply to the conversation of mental problems with veterans in the present day due to Iraq!
 

RoperAB

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kolanuraven said:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/07/passenger.restrained.ap/index.html


Ck this out...th guy's not homeless, I guess, but it does apply to the conversation of mental problems with veterans in the present day due to Iraq!

Way to go airline passengers!!! Who needs air Marshals with passengers like that. Those Jihad wack jobs better think twice before they try 9/11 again. :D
Sort of reminds me of the hit and run driver in Cow Town last summer. He totaled his vehicle and tried to escape on foot. A mob took chase, roped him, and tied him down until the police got there.
 
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