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Homeowners Whine

aplusmnt

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It is funny to listen to liberals whine about these poor fools that got upside down in their homes. Sad thing is those of us that did not get upside down, that new what a fixed interest rate and a variable interest rate was. You know those of us that will have to pay for all this mess, not only in our taxes but in diminished land value and availability of new credit if needed.

Why is it that Liberals are always wanting those that make good decisions in life and business to subsidize those that make bad? Why is it that they do not want to regulate Fannie and Freddie like Bush, Greenspan and McCain wanted even though they were heading to failure but they want stricter regulations on companies like Exxon that are successful.

I understand rooting for the under dog, but some common sense has to come into play eventually!
 

Steve

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aplusmnt said:
It is funny to listen to liberals whine about these poor fools that got upside down in their homes. Sad thing is those of us that did not get upside down, that new what a fixed interest rate and a variable interest rate was. You know those of us that will have to pay for all this mess, not only in our taxes but in diminished land value and availability of new credit if needed.

Why is it that Liberals are always wanting those that make good decisions in life and business to subsidize those that make bad? Why is it that they do not want to regulate Fannie and Freddie like Bush, Greenspan and McCain wanted even though they were heading to failure but they want stricter regulations on companies like Exxon that are successful.

I understand rooting for the under dog, but some common sense has to come into play eventually!

same crowd that is upside down in thier car loans.. and Obama has said he will add in car loans to the bail out if need be..

if we look at his extensive track record on the economy. which is about three days... we can see which direction he is headed...

he said he would go to Washington if needed,..reid says he wasn't needed,.. Obama went anyways.. so I guess, bad car loans will be added anyways,..
 
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Steve said:
aplusmnt said:
It is funny to listen to liberals whine about these poor fools that got upside down in their homes. Sad thing is those of us that did not get upside down, that new what a fixed interest rate and a variable interest rate was. You know those of us that will have to pay for all this mess, not only in our taxes but in diminished land value and availability of new credit if needed.

Why is it that Liberals are always wanting those that make good decisions in life and business to subsidize those that make bad? Why is it that they do not want to regulate Fannie and Freddie like Bush, Greenspan and McCain wanted even though they were heading to failure but they want stricter regulations on companies like Exxon that are successful.

I understand rooting for the under dog, but some common sense has to come into play eventually!

same crowd that is upside down in thier car loans.. and Obama has said he will add in car loans to the bail out if need be..

if we look at his extensive track record on the economy. which is about three days... we can see which direction he is headed...

he said he would go to Washington if needed,..reid says he wasn't needed,.. Obama went anyways.. so I guess, bad car loans will be added anyways,..

What a crock of BULL-- McCain was the one that tried to postpone the debates by saying he was going to Washington, and "suspened" his campaign (in what turned out to be a hail mary play that lost him 15 yards)- which Obama said was unnecessary- and Reid/Dodd and even many of the Republicans said was unnecessary and would just add in partisan politics and muddy the waters...
Then Bush (probably for McCain) asked for them both to come back to meet with him- which Obama agreed to- which turned out to be nothing but a picture taking session....
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
aplusmnt said:
It is funny to listen to liberals whine about these poor fools that got upside down in their homes. Sad thing is those of us that did not get upside down, that new what a fixed interest rate and a variable interest rate was. You know those of us that will have to pay for all this mess, not only in our taxes but in diminished land value and availability of new credit if needed.

Why is it that Liberals are always wanting those that make good decisions in life and business to subsidize those that make bad? Why is it that they do not want to regulate Fannie and Freddie like Bush, Greenspan and McCain wanted even though they were heading to failure but they want stricter regulations on companies like Exxon that are successful.

I understand rooting for the under dog, but some common sense has to come into play eventually!

same crowd that is upside down in thier car loans.. and Obama has said he will add in car loans to the bail out if need be..

if we look at his extensive track record on the economy. which is about three days... we can see which direction he is headed...

he said he would go to Washington if needed,..reid says he wasn't needed,.. Obama went anyways.. so I guess, bad car loans will be added anyways,..

What a crock of BULL-- McCain was the one that tried to postpone the debates by saying he was going to Washington, and "suspened" his campaign (in what turned out to be a hail mary play that lost him 15 yards)- which Obama said was unnecessary- and Reid/Dodd and even many of the Republicans said was unnecessary and would just add in partisan politics and muddy the waters...
Then Bush (probably for McCain) asked for them both to come back to meet with him- which Obama agreed to- which turned out to be nothing but a picture taking session....

nice story OT, The end result was Obama went when he was not needed,, so based on his track record we can expect him to do other things when asked by the opposition, even if he feels they are not needed and could be harmful... thanks for pointing that out... :roll: :wink:
 
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Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
same crowd that is upside down in thier car loans.. and Obama has said he will add in car loans to the bail out if need be..

if we look at his extensive track record on the economy. which is about three days... we can see which direction he is headed...

he said he would go to Washington if needed,..reid says he wasn't needed,.. Obama went anyways.. so I guess, bad car loans will be added anyways,..

What a crock of BULL-- McCain was the one that tried to postpone the debates by saying he was going to Washington, and "suspened" his campaign (in what turned out to be a hail mary play that lost him 15 yards)- which Obama said was unnecessary- and Reid/Dodd and even many of the Republicans said was unnecessary and would just add in partisan politics and muddy the waters...
Then Bush (probably for McCain) asked for them both to come back to meet with him- which Obama agreed to- which turned out to be nothing but a picture taking session....

nice story OT, The end result was Obama went when he was not needed,, so based on his track record we can expect him to do other things when asked by the opposition, even if he feels they are not needed and could be harmful... thanks for pointing that out... :roll: :wink:

What a spin :roll: If the President calls and wants a meeting- you don't go :???:
 

backhoeboogie

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OT you are completely full of it.

Here is the real problem. People paid to much for their homes and Bill Clinton set it up so that they could get loans and just pay interest. Now their houses are worth 1/2 what they owe. They are defaulting left and right to get out of their upside down predicament. They have not lost their jobs or the ability to continue paying.

Then you have those who are set up with traditiional loans who have had a change in income and struggling.

Then you have those who are just fine.

Then you have folks like you who are running around trying to incite the old Y2K scare tactic.

You are so lost it is beyond reason.
 

Clarencen

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Just to use cowboy, or straw hat logic, The way it looks to me is either McCain or Obama will hold the reins to the country in another four months, or at least they expect to. This bailout thing will be with them for a long time, maybe eight or ten years. They should both be involved and become well informed with it. It seems that both say let someone else decide, then we might make up our own minds.

My personal opinion is that this bailout thing is not going to do much actual good except try to keep people from losing confidence in our financial situation.
 

fff

Well-known member
Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
same crowd that is upside down in thier car loans.. and Obama has said he will add in car loans to the bail out if need be..

if we look at his extensive track record on the economy. which is about three days... we can see which direction he is headed...

he said he would go to Washington if needed,..reid says he wasn't needed,.. Obama went anyways.. so I guess, bad car loans will be added anyways,..

What a crock of BULL-- McCain was the one that tried to postpone the debates by saying he was going to Washington, and "suspened" his campaign (in what turned out to be a hail mary play that lost him 15 yards)- which Obama said was unnecessary- and Reid/Dodd and even many of the Republicans said was unnecessary and would just add in partisan politics and muddy the waters...
Then Bush (probably for McCain) asked for them both to come back to meet with him- which Obama agreed to- which turned out to be nothing but a picture taking session....

nice story OT, The end result was Obama went when he was not needed,, so based on his track record we can expect him to do other things when asked by the opposition, even if he feels they are not needed and could be harmful... thanks for pointing that out... :roll: :wink:

It's the true story. You need to get out more, Steve. :roll:

But even as Paulson ran from one Capitol meeting to another, McCain announced he was suspending his campaign to come back and deal with negotiations in Washington. He also called for Friday’s first scheduled presidential debate to be delayed.

The Arizona senator’s first target appeared to be Obama. But Paulson could also be a casualty, since McCain said “no consensus” has developed to support Treasury’s plan and he did not believe “the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands.”

“I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership of both houses of Congress, including Sen. Obama and myself,” said McCain. “It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.”

Obama promptly rejected McCain’s invitation to join him back in Congress. “What I think is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics,” Obama said before cameras in Florida. And in a shot at his rival, he suggested that suspending the campaigns wasn’t needed for talks to be fruitful.

“Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time,” Obama said. “It’s not necessary for us to think that we can do only one thing and suspend everything else.”

But after Bush issued his own invitation, Frank said he expected Obama to come to the meeting Thursday.

More at the link.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13838.html
 

Steve

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fff said:
Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
What a crock of BULL-- McCain was the one that tried to postpone the debates by saying he was going to Washington, and "suspened" his campaign (in what turned out to be a hail mary play that lost him 15 yards)- which Obama said was unnecessary- and Reid/Dodd and even many of the Republicans said was unnecessary and would just add in partisan politics and muddy the waters...
Then Bush (probably for McCain) asked for them both to come back to meet with him- which Obama agreed to- which turned out to be nothing but a picture taking session....

nice story OT, The end result was Obama went when he was not needed,, so based on his track record we can expect him to do other things when asked by the opposition, even if he feels they are not needed and could be harmful... thanks for pointing that out... :roll: :wink:

It's the true story. You need to get out more, Steve. :roll:

But even as Paulson ran from one Capitol meeting to another, McCain announced he was suspending his campaign to come back and deal with negotiations in Washington. He also called for Friday’s first scheduled presidential debate to be delayed.

The Arizona senator’s first target appeared to be Obama. But Paulson could also be a casualty, since McCain said “no consensus” has developed to support Treasury’s plan and he did not believe “the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands.”

“I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership of both houses of Congress, including Sen. Obama and myself,” said McCain. “It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.”

Obama promptly rejected McCain’s invitation to join him back in Congress. “What I think is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics,” Obama said before cameras in Florida. And in a shot at his rival, he suggested that suspending the campaigns wasn’t needed for talks to be fruitful.

“Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time,” Obama said. “It’s not necessary for us to think that we can do only one thing and suspend everything else.”

But after Bush issued his own invitation, Frank said he expected Obama to come to the meeting Thursday.

More at the link.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13838.html

gee it is amazing how many times my same answer works,... just because Bush asks(who Obama says is wrong on everything) ,.. Obama jumps to the line and does exactly the opposite of what he said he wouldn't do in a speech..

so based on his track record we can expect Obama to do other things when asked by the opposition, even if he feels they are not needed and could be harmful... thanks for pointing that out...

if Ahmadinejad ever asks him to meet.. will Obama trip over himself to comply and work out a deal that favors the Iranians,.. over the American people? :roll: :roll:
 

fff

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Steve said:
gee it is amazing how many times my same answer works,... just because Bush asks(who Obama says is wrong on everything) ,.. Obama jumps to the line and does exactly the opposite of what he said he wouldn't do in a speech..

so based on his track record we can expect Obama to do other things when asked by the opposition, even if he feels they are not needed and could be harmful... thanks for pointing that out...

Interesting that you'd call the President of the United States the "opposition." Obama gives Bush a lot more respect than he deserves, IMO, but he is the elected leader of this country. When he specifically ask the junior Senator from IL to come to Washington, DC, Obama obliged. Obama said all along if he could help, he'd go to DC. Apparently Bush told him he could help. As it turned out, though, it was a photo session for McCain. What a waste of time for all, even McCain as most people seem to have seen it for the political stunt it is.

if Ahmadinejad ever asks him to meet.. will Obama trip over himself to comply and work out a deal that favors the Iranians,.. over the American people? :roll: :roll:

And even more interesting that you'd compare President George W. Bush (YOUR president) to the leader of Iran. Getting a bit desperate here, Steve, snatching at straws?
 

Steve

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fff said:
Steve said:
gee it is amazing how many times my same answer works,... just because Bush asks(who Obama says is wrong on everything) ,.. Obama jumps to the line and does exactly the opposite of what he said he wouldn't do in a speech..

so based on his track record we can expect Obama to do other things when asked by the opposition, even if he feels they are not needed and could be harmful... thanks for pointing that out...

Interesting that you'd call the President of the United States the "opposition." Obama gives Bush a lot more respect than he deserves, IMO, but he is the elected leader of this country. When he specifically ask the junior Senator from IL to come to Washington, DC, Obama obliged. Obama said all along if he could help, he'd go to DC. Apparently Bush told him he could help. As it turned out, though, it was a photo session for McCain. What a waste of time for all, even McCain as most people seem to have seen it for the political stunt it is.

if Ahmadinejad ever asks him to meet.. will Obama trip over himself to comply and work out a deal that favors the Iranians,.. over the American people? :roll: :roll:

And even more interesting that you'd compare President George W. Bush (YOUR president) to the leader of Iran. Getting a bit desperate here, Steve, snatching at straws?

nope, I'm not comparing Bush to Ahmadinjad, just pointing out how Obama says one thing in a speech, and then does exactly the opposite in reality...

While I am sure your blind fath of Obama has obscured your vision, any one with an open mind can see the irony of Obama actions..

but if you want to chase your tail on the other details of the comment as both you and OT have done, feel free...


I'm getting back to my original point that seems lost on you blind follower liberals.. Obama stated he would support helping people out of bad car loans if needed.. (I even put in his half-harted disclaimer of "if neeed")

I think that bailing out bad car loans is the second most stupid idea he has had so far?
 

fff

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Steve said:
I'm getting back to my original point that seems lost on you blind follower liberals.. Obama stated he would support helping people out of bad car loans if needed.. (I even put in his half-harted disclaimer of "if neeed")

I think that bailing out bad car loans is the second most stupid idea he has had so far?

You couldn't tell the truth if you tried, Steve.

In the dark of night over the weekend when most people were snoozing, the Treasury dramatically expanded its bailout plan to include buying student loans, car loans, credit card debt and any other "troubled" assets held by banks.

Provide me with a link that shows Obama promises specifically to bail out car loans. :roll:

The rest of the article is at this link: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/23/student-car-debt-quietly-added/

As you SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ, the article is from Tuesday, so there have been changes in the proposal. But whatever changes were made, it was YOUR PRESIDENT'S administration that added car loans to the bail out.....oops, excuse me: "rescue" plan. :roll:
 
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