The Hook Doctor is a handy contaption. I like the original shorter version best for mouthing cows, but the new long model with a hook on the end for catching calves is also handy. It is a bit too long though to fit between the front of the cow's mouth and the front of the chute. The old original model is best for mouthing, but doubt if they are available any more. Get a Hook Doctor. You will find it to be quite useful. :wink: