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House passes health care bill

hypocritexposer

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Must have been a late night for all those Congressman


WASHINGTON – In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed landmark health care legislation Saturday night to expand coverage to tens of millions who lack it and place tough new restrictions on the insurance industry. Republican opposition was nearly unanimous.

The 220-215 vote cleared the way for the Senate to begin debate on the issue that has come to overshadow all others in Congress.

A triumphant Speaker Nancy Pelosi likened the legislation to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul


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garn

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RIP, USA. July 4, 1776-November 8, 2009.

United Socialist States of America: November 8, 2009 - ??????
 

hypocritexposer

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The Pelosi Bill Was Rammed Through on Saturday, but Sunday's Coming

We’ve got to hold on to hope, and we’ve got to fight hard because
Congressional action tonight just put America on a path toward an unrecognizable country.

The same government leaders that got us into the mortgage business and the car business are now getting us into the health care business.

Despite Americans’ decisive message last Tuesday that they reject the
troubling path this country has been taking, Speaker Pelosi has broken her own promises of transparency to ram a health “care” bill through the House of Representatives just before midnight. Why did she push the 2,000 page bill this weekend? Was she perhaps afraid to give her peers and the constituents for whom she works the chance to actually read this monstrous bill carefully, if at all? Was she concerned that Americans might really digest the details of a bill that
the Wall Street Journal has called “the worst piece of post-New Deal legislation ever introduced”?

This out-of-control bureaucratic mess will be disastrous for our economy, our small businesses, and our personal liberty. It will slam businesses at a time when we are at double-digit unemployment rates – the highest we’ve seen in a quarter of a century. This massive new bureaucracy will cost us and our children money we don’t have. It will rob Americans of more of our freedom and further hamper the free market.

Make no mistake: we’re on course to have government commandeer one-sixth of our economy. The people who gave us Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac now want to run our health care. Think about that.

All of us who value the sanctity of life are grateful for the success of the pro-life majority in the House this evening in its battle against federal funding of abortion in this bill, but it’s ironic because we were promised that abortion wasn’t covered in the bill to begin with. Our
healthy distrust of these government leaders made us look deeper into the bill because unfortunately we knew better than to trust what they were saying. The victory tonight to amend the bill and eliminate that federal funding for abortion was great – because abortion is not health care. Now we can only hope that Rep. Stupak’s amendment will hold in the final bill, though the Democratic leadership has already refused to promise that it won’t be scrapped later.

We had been told there were no “death panels” in the bill either. But
look closely at the provision mandating bureaucratic panels that will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care.

Look closely at provisions addressing illegal aliens’ health care coverage too.

Those of us who love freedom and believe in open and transparent
government can only be dismayed by midnight action on a Saturday. Speaker Pelosi’s promise that Americans would have 72 hours to read the final bill before the vote was just another one of the D.C. establishment’s too-common political ploys. It’s broken promises like this that turn people off to politics and leave them disillusioned about the future of their country.

But despite this late-night maneuvering, many of us were paying close attention tonight. We’ll keep paying close attention. We need to let our legislators in Washington know that they still represent us, and that the majority of Americans are not in favor of the “reform” they are pushing. After all, this is still a country “of the people, by the people, and for the people.” We will make our voices heard. It’s on to the Senate now. Our legislators can listen now, or they can hear us in 2010. It’s their choice.

- Sarah Palin
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jingo2

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Something needs to be done...............this is just a small step in a BIG process.

Let'em work on it......and don't throw the baby out with the bathwater ............
 

I Luv Herfrds

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Here is something to scare the crap out of you.
They are cutting the funding for Medical Helicoptors. So living in the country and needing one can mean the person needing it can die.

New form of a Death Panel.
 

Einstein

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no pre-existingconditions...

where is the money going to come from? how can anyone figure out how much money this entails?

30 million covered that aren't covered.

where is the money going to come from?



do women use more medical care than men?
 

hypocritexposer

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I Luv Herfrds said:
Here is something to scare the crap out of you.
They are cutting the funding for Medical Helicoptors. So living in the country and needing one can mean the person needing it can die.

New form of a Death Panel.

Yes but they have millions ($283M over 5 yrs.) in the Heatlh Care bill to help veterinarians payoff loans, I'm sure it will be for Large animal vets.

ask by one Republican why it was in a Health Care bill, Rep. Louise Slaughter replied, "Have you not heard of swine flu, did you know that 75%of all antibiotics are given to cattle that are not sick"?

cspan video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0pR1OxQkIs
 

Einstein

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hypocritexposer said:
I Luv Herfrds said:
Here is something to scare the crap out of you.
They are cutting the funding for Medical Helicoptors. So living in the country and needing one can mean the person needing it can die.

New form of a Death Panel.

Yes but they have millions ($283M over 5 yrs.) in the Heatlh Care bill to help veterinarians payoff loans, I'm sure it will be for Large animal vets.

ask by one Republican why it was in a Health Care bill, Rep. Louise Slaughter replied, "Have you not heard of swine flu, did you know that 75%of all antibiotics are given to cattle that are not sick"?

cspan video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0pR1OxQkIs

Louise Slaughter is the lady that had all the house females line up and make a recorded comment this last Statuday on cpan. the repubs kept objecting. it was pretty exciting. planty of gavel action.

one could easily see all the females were complaining about paying more than males for health care but they go for health care visits 10 times as often not to mention there are more things that can go wrong with them.

they want equal pay and equal health care. good luck you men.
 

hillsdown

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Einstein said:
no pre-existingconditions...

where is the money going to come from? how can anyone figure out how much money this entails?

30 million covered that aren't covered.

where is the money going to come from?



do women use more medical care than men?

I can't see women using a health care system more than men unless pre, during and a short while post childbirth and men are 50% responsible for that as well :wink:
My life insurance policy is almost half as much as my husbands, we are both the same age (4 yrs difference) and both very healthy. Wouldn't my insurance premiums be more if women are more likely to get ill ?
 

Einstein

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if my hypothesis is correct, single men will end up paying for single women and married men will end up paying for married women.

the gays and lesbians are likely to cancel each other out because of hiv.
 

hypocritexposer

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Einstein said:
if my hypothesis is correct, single men will end up paying for single women and married men will end up paying for married women.

the gays and lesbians are likely to cancel each other out because of hiv.

I think if I'm not mistaken the House Bill states that children to the age of 27 should be covered under their parents' plan.

So what is an adult?
 

hypocritexposer

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yep, here it is.

Parents would be able to keep their children on their insurance plans up until age 27 and individuals who have insurance through COBRA would be able to keep their plans until the new health insurance exchange is up and running in 2013.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/health-care-overhaul-house-democrats-bill-means/story?id=9032861

So you will have a whole group of working age citizens not contributing to the costs.
 

Einstein

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hypocritexposer said:
Einstein said:
if my hypothesis is correct, single men will end up paying for single women and married men will end up paying for married women.

the gays and lesbians are likely to cancel each other out because of hiv.

I think if I'm not mistaken the House Bill states that children to the age of 27 should be covered under their parents' plan.

So what is an adult?

same as always. this is just a trick to make the top numbers match. where they are miscalculating is there is no way to accurately estimate the enourmous amount of pre-condition costs. they will mis-project this number by a couple of trillion not counting the interest which wil be increasing because of currency debasement.
 

Einstein

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the people that are going to pay the most are the ones making over $500K per year and single straight white males under age 40 or thereabouts.
 
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