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How long do we have?

Mike

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How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'

'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

'During those 200 years, those

nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. >From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. >From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. >From courage to liberty;

4. >From liberty to abundance;

5. >From abundance to complacency;

6. >From complacency to apathy;

7. >From apathy to dependence;

8. >From dependence back into bondage'

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...' Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
 

Mike

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kolanuraven said:
Oh poo!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:


Chicken Little with a modern twist!

I just received this via e-mail a while ago.

You are welcome to dispute any facts. Please.
 

kolanuraven

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Remember when all the ' boat people' came into the Southeast from Southeast Asia...and everyone thought the world was going to helle in a hand cart then.


Wellll...lookie now....they've been absorbed into the society and no one even gives it a thought now.


We been down this road no telling how many times since this country was founded. I bet the American Natives said the same things when the Anglos hit the shores!!!
 

Mike

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I bet the American Natives said the same things when the Anglos hit the shores!!!

I'd bet they did too. And look what happened. The majority are huddling on reservations living off the guvment.

You just made the author's point! :lol:

Were there 20 million boat people? :roll:
 

aplusmnt

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I think the voting themselves gifts from the Treasury is the important thing here. This is proving more true and true every since the starting of welfare.

Look at Hillary first $5,000 for new babies, then some 401K program. Social medicine. Only reason we have not failed so far is that the Democrats can not figure out how to get enough of these people to vote. Once the get those looking for handouts to actually show up and vote, America as it was will be gone.
 

hopalong

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SHORTSTUFF said:
If you read, snopes may poke a hole in the quotes but not the theory.

That is what liberals like Frankie do best, try and cause enough smoke to cloud your vision :roll: :roll: :roll:

Once again our beloved Kolouraven opens mouth and lets her lack of intelligence flow out. :D :D
 
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Anonymous

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SHORTSTUFF said:
If you read, snopes may poke a hole in the quotes but not the theory.

There is no record of a professor named Alexander Tyler or that he said any such thing about the Athenian Republic. Professor Olson is not the source of the quote attributed to him. They're poking holes in the source, of the quotes. If the source is not reliable, why would you belive the theory?
 

don

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it's natural that any nation, government or political system will go through a cycle and the usa is no exception. i think american economic, social and military strength are all in a downtrend right now and it remains to be seen when or if that changes. the one big factor i see long term is that america is bigger now than its resource base and will have to deal with the rest of the world in order to be sustained. look to europe or great britain to see what's coming.
 
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