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How many of you voted for this.

Tam

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$20, million for fish barriers

$150 million for Honey Bee Insurance

over $300 million for Sex Ed.

Is this the Change you voted for? :? As there was a woman just on Fox saying the Voters want change and that the Republicans should just shut up and vote for these kinds of things without questioning them. :shock:

There was another woman who figures anyone living in the US should get a government stimulus cheque "EVEN THE ILLEGALS" (Her words). She argued the Republicans should just shut up and vote yes even if it results in illegals getting a check. :???:

I thought the vote for change was to stop the irresponsible spending. So why should anyone just shut up and support this Dem pork filled stimulus package that will give illegals a check?

Another question How many of you Republicans support this as Pelosi was just quoted on TV saying Republicans support this package no matter what their representitives are doing to stop it.

I guess she didn't see the poll that proved a large majority of Republicans OPPOSE the plan.

I just heard the only thing Bi Partisan about this package was the Bi Partisan vote AGAINST IT. All Republicans and 11 Dems.
 

kolanuraven

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If you have a crash of the honeybee.....the effect on the nations/country food supply will be horrific!!!


Sex Ed....STD education. You will have a healthier nation....thus a cheaper nation. Hopefully a reduction of unwed mothers/pregnancy rates.....( Palin's could've used this class!!)


How is spending money on an issue that will make the nation a better nation, health wise a bad idea?
 

Tam

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
If you have a crash of the honeybee.....the effect on the nations/country food supply will be horrific!!!


Sex Ed....STD education. You will have a healthier nation....thus a cheaper nation. Hopefully a reduction of unwed mothers/pregnancy rates.....( Palin's could've used this class!!)


How is spending money on an issue that will make the nation a better nation, health wise a bad idea?

Should money for a water park in Florida, money for Sex Ed and Honey bees, and sod for the National Mall and Condoms be in an EMERGENCY Package that is meant to Stimulate the US Economy? What is the Emergency about any of those things? As far as that goes what is the emergency for a new Health care program. If the Stimulus package was targeted to helping the private sector create jobs (ie tax breaks) then people would be able to afford their own health care and condoms. Give a person a fish he eats once and is back wanting more, Give him a job and he can provide for his family and have pride doing so. Target the stimulus where it will create as many jobs as possible in the private sector, and stop the crap that OBAMA SAID WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN HIS PACKAGE.

BTW What gives Obama and the Dems the right to punish the unemployed in his home state of Ill. just because he no longer cares for the guy he supported and got into the Governors seat? I have heard more than once that if Ill. keeps Blago. as Governor they get no money from the stimulus package?Not that they need another reason to impeach but what gives Obama the right to add another nail to the coffin.
:?
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Tam said:
kolanuraven said:
If you have a crash of the honeybee.....the effect on the nations/country food supply will be horrific!!!


Sex Ed....STD education. You will have a healthier nation....thus a cheaper nation. Hopefully a reduction of unwed mothers/pregnancy rates.....( Palin's could've used this class!!)


How is spending money on an issue that will make the nation a better nation, health wise a bad idea?

Should money for a water park in Florida, money for Sex Ed and Honey bees, and sod for the National Mall and Condoms be in an EMERGENCY Package that is meant to Stimulate the US Economy? What is the Emergency about any of those things? As far as that goes what is the emergency for a new Health care program. If the Stimulus package was targeted to helping the private sector create jobs (ie tax breaks) then people would be able to afford their own health care and condoms. Give a person a fish he eats once and is back wanting more, Give him a job and he can provide for his family and have pride doing so. Target the stimulus where it will create as many jobs as possible in the private sector, and stop the crap that OBAMA SAID WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN HIS PACKAGE.

BTW What gives Obama and the Dems the right to punish the unemployed in his home state of Ill. just because he no longer cares for the guy he supported and got into the Governors seat? I have heard more than once that if Ill. keeps Blago. as Governor they get no money from the stimulus package?Not that they need another reason to impeach but what gives Obama the right to add another nail to the coffin.
:?


Lordy have mercy......I'll be glad when Global Warming hits Canada and you can get over your cabin fever and pull in your fangs!!!!
 

Tam

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Tam said:
kolanuraven said:
If you have a crash of the honeybee.....the effect on the nations/country food supply will be horrific!!!


Sex Ed....STD education. You will have a healthier nation....thus a cheaper nation. Hopefully a reduction of unwed mothers/pregnancy rates.....( Palin's could've used this class!!)


How is spending money on an issue that will make the nation a better nation, health wise a bad idea?

Should money for a water park in Florida, money for Sex Ed and Honey bees, and sod for the National Mall and Condoms be in an EMERGENCY Package that is meant to Stimulate the US Economy? What is the Emergency about any of those things? As far as that goes what is the emergency for a new Health care program. If the Stimulus package was targeted to helping the private sector create jobs (ie tax breaks) then people would be able to afford their own health care and condoms. Give a person a fish he eats once and is back wanting more, Give him a job and he can provide for his family and have pride doing so. Target the stimulus where it will create as many jobs as possible in the private sector, and stop the crap that OBAMA SAID WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN HIS PACKAGE.

BTW What gives Obama and the Dems the right to punish the unemployed in his home state of Ill. just because he no longer cares for the guy he supported and got into the Governors seat? I have heard more than once that if Ill. keeps Blago. as Governor they get no money from the stimulus package?Not that they need another reason to impeach but what gives Obama the right to add another nail to the coffin.
:?


Lordy have mercy......I'll be glad when Global Warming hits Canada and you can get over your cabin fever and pull in your fangs!!!!
By your rude comment I take it you can't answer the question :wink:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Tam said:
kolanuraven said:
Tam said:
Should money for a water park in Florida, money for Sex Ed and Honey bees, and sod for the National Mall and Condoms be in an EMERGENCY Package that is meant to Stimulate the US Economy? What is the Emergency about any of those things? As far as that goes what is the emergency for a new Health care program. If the Stimulus package was targeted to helping the private sector create jobs (ie tax breaks) then people would be able to afford their own health care and condoms. Give a person a fish he eats once and is back wanting more, Give him a job and he can provide for his family and have pride doing so. Target the stimulus where it will create as many jobs as possible in the private sector, and stop the crap that OBAMA SAID WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN HIS PACKAGE.

BTW What gives Obama and the Dems the right to punish the unemployed in his home state of Ill. just because he no longer cares for the guy he supported and got into the Governors seat? I have heard more than once that if Ill. keeps Blago. as Governor they get no money from the stimulus package?Not that they need another reason to impeach but what gives Obama the right to add another nail to the coffin.
:?


Lordy have mercy......I'll be glad when Global Warming hits Canada and you can get over your cabin fever and pull in your fangs!!!!
By your rude comment I take it you can't answer the question :wink:

That was a given Tam all she can do is offer more fluff,
EXAMPLE her supposed dump valve on her non existant jet!
confrinted wiith her outrage of people storing ammo not in a fire proof safe cause it will explode (so will cans of WD40) asked to supply ANY kind of proof all she can do is play blond!!!!

fluff and more fluff and then add alice more fluff,
niether has a 1/2 oz of brain and the act like they KNOW it all
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
Tam said:
How many of you Republicans support this as Pelosi was just quoted on TV saying Republicans support this package no matter what their representitives are doing to stop it.

A local straw poll is, 7 nays and 0 ayes amongst Republicans in my immediate office communication. There is a lib running around now trying to attain some influence. The truth is, all I had to say was "Pelosi" and everyone had immediate negative modes.
 

Cal

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
Tam said:
How many of you Republicans support this as Pelosi was just quoted on TV saying Republicans support this package no matter what their representitives are doing to stop it.

A local straw poll is, 7 nays and 0 ayes amongst Republicans in my immediate office communication. There is a lib running around now trying to attain some influence. The truth is, all I had to say was "Pelosi" and everyone had immediate negative modes.
Pelosi must be on drugs. The idea that there is widespread Republican support, much less the more conservative Republicans, must be some sort of an Acid trip.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
If you have a crash of the honeybee.....the effect on the nations/country food supply will be horrific!!!


Sex Ed....STD education. You will have a healthier nation....thus a cheaper nation. Hopefully a reduction of unwed mothers/pregnancy rates.....( Palin's could've used this class!!)


How is spending money on an issue that will make the nation a better nation, health wise a bad idea?

You spend money on that crap when you can afford it, not when you're the deepest in the hole that you've ever been and ESPECIALLY not after you criticized the last president for deficit spending while you were campaigning!
 

MoGal

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I did find this and its a associated press release so its probably on their AP site regarding the illegal alien checks.


WASHINGTON (AP) - The $800 billion-plus economic stimulus measure making its way through Congress could steer government checks to illegal immigrants, a top Republican congressional official asserted Thursday.

The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don't have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks.

Undocumented immigrants who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits.

A revolt among GOP conservatives to similar provisions of a 2008 economic stimulus bill, which sent rebate checks to most wage earners, forced Democratic congressional leaders to add stricter eligibility requirements. That legislation, enacted in February 2008, required that people have valid Social Security numbers in order to get checks.

The GOP official voiced concerns about the latest economic aid measure on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

Republicans have already blasted the package for including what they argue is wasteful spending and omitting tax cuts for wealthier people and businesses they say are needed to jump-start the anemic economy.

Not a single Republican voted for an $819 billion version of the plan when it passed the House on Wednesday.

GOP senators arranged a midday news conference to voice their concerns.












Yep, while we stimulate the bankers, congress castrated unions last month:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/auto-j08.shtml


The United Auto Workers union began talks this week with General Motors and other Detroit automakers on a new round of wage and benefit concessions for nearly 140,000 autoworkers and hundreds of thousands of retirees.

Under the terms of the loan agreement, GM and Chrysler have until February 17 to submit plans to return to profitability, which include measures to make the wages, benefits and work rules of UAW members equivalent to those of nonunion workers at the US plants operated by Toyota, Nissan and Honda. This could mean up to a 50 percent cut in wages for current autoworkers by the end of 2009.
 
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