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how much is a stamp?

Steve

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not enough to cover the stupidity...

LAKE WATEREE, South Carolina (CNN) -- At a time when the U.S. Postal Service says it is experiencing a financial crisis, it purchased a $1.2 million home from an employee so he could relocate, a CNN investigation has found.

In 2007, after the U.S. housing boom peaked, the USPS lost an average of $50,542 on each deal, he said. In 2008, with the market in full retreat, the average loss climbed to $58,397.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/05/postal.service.relocation/index.html

not sure how much a customer service manager makes.. but it looks as if we are getting ripped off..
 

hypocritexposer

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Are they unionized?

Off topic, but...

New hockey team in Canada, maybe. Main holdup, the fear of competition.

Who owns the existing team, you guessed it... a union.
 

Richard Doolittle

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hypocritexposer said:
Are they unionized?

Off topic, but...

New hockey team in Canada, maybe. Main holdup, the fear of competition.

Who owns the existing team, you guessed it... a union.

Yes, they are unionized.

Other than electronic technology hurting them, I think their "efficiencies" are possibly a bigger factor. In the old days, a local letter would get sorted locally and delivery would be fast--next day or is some cases, the same day if it was going to an in town post office box. Now the mail is transported hundreds of miles for electronic sorting and delivery. If I mail a letter from Sturgis, SD to Rapid City, SD (30 miles), it is transported 300+ miles to the other side of the state and then delivered back. We can't be assured of next day delivery anywhere. With all this "efficiency", I don't think they've cut numbers of local employees either.
 

Sandhusker

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Richard Doolittle said:
hypocritexposer said:
Are they unionized?

Off topic, but...

New hockey team in Canada, maybe. Main holdup, the fear of competition.

Who owns the existing team, you guessed it... a union.

Yes, they are unionized.

Other than electronic technology hurting them, I think their "efficiencies" are possibly a bigger factor. In the old days, a local letter would get sorted locally and delivery would be fast--next day or is some cases, the same day if it was going to an in town post office box. Now the mail is transported hundreds of miles for electronic sorting and delivery. If I mail a letter from Sturgis, SD to Rapid City, SD (30 miles), it is transported 300+ miles to the other side of the state and then delivered back. We can't be assured of next day delivery anywhere. With all this "efficiency", I don't think they've cut numbers of local employees either.

Hey, I've got a great idea; Lets put these same people in charge of our health care!
 

badaxemoo

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For the record, I am not an employee of the USPS. In fact, I don't have any family members or friends that work for USPS.

That said, I think the USPS is one of the best postal operations in the world.

Those of you who are complaining about it have never lived in Africa or Central America!
 

nonothing

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I think with email and internet Ecards the stamp style letter will be alot less used and postal companies will have to lay off or try to find new ways to stay afloat....You can now have you mintly bills emailed to you instead of mailed.....Saves on paper and time..
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Richard Doolittle said:
hypocritexposer said:
Are they unionized?

Off topic, but...

New hockey team in Canada, maybe. Main holdup, the fear of competition.

Who owns the existing team, you guessed it... a union.

Yes, they are unionized.

Other than electronic technology hurting them, I think their "efficiencies" are possibly a bigger factor. In the old days, a local letter would get sorted locally and delivery would be fast--next day or is some cases, the same day if it was going to an in town post office box. Now the mail is transported hundreds of miles for electronic sorting and delivery. If I mail a letter from Sturgis, SD to Rapid City, SD (30 miles), it is transported 300+ miles to the other side of the state and then delivered back. We can't be assured of next day delivery anywhere. With all this "efficiency", I don't think they've cut numbers of local employees either.

Hey, I've got a great idea; Lets put these same people in charge of our health care!

Actually I heard Secretary Sebelius use the Post Office as an example of why creating a public health insurance plan will NOT run the private insurers out of business- just make them compete- which testimony to Congress was that they are not doing now because of the monoply control of them by only 3-4 major corporate entities...She said the rise in UPS, DHL, Fed-ex, etc. etc. is an example....
In areas/states that have developed an option for a public insurance plan for their employees- the private carriers have lowered rates to compete..
 

alice

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Richard Doolittle said:
Yes, they are unionized.

Other than electronic technology hurting them, I think their "efficiencies" are possibly a bigger factor. In the old days, a local letter would get sorted locally and delivery would be fast--next day or is some cases, the same day if it was going to an in town post office box. Now the mail is transported hundreds of miles for electronic sorting and delivery. If I mail a letter from Sturgis, SD to Rapid City, SD (30 miles), it is transported 300+ miles to the other side of the state and then delivered back. We can't be assured of next day delivery anywhere. With all this "efficiency", I don't think they've cut numbers of local employees either.

Hey, I've got a great idea; Lets put these same people in charge of our health care!

Actually I heard Secretary Sebelius use the Post Office as an example of why creating a public health insurance plan will NOT run the private insurers out of business- just make them compete- which testimony to Congress was that they are not doing now because of the monoply control of them by only 3-4 major corporate entities...She said the rise in UPS, DHL, Fed-ex, etc. etc. is an example....
In areas/states that have developed an option for a public insurance plan for their employees- the private carriers have lowered rates to compete..

Read about that, OT. Also read that the private carriers are changing some of their outrageous, fine print, terms and "agreements."

I worked for a health insurance company once...the stories I could tell...makes me wanna puke to this day.

Alice
 

Sandhusker

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Even if that were true, which I doubt as there already is competition, the government has no damn business getting into the private business sector. You then also consider the burden that taxes are on every company (and going up thanks to our socialist Kenyan) and that is a ball and chain any government business doesn't have. That isn't fair "competiton".
 

alice

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Sandhusker said:
Even if that were true, which I doubt as there already is competition, the government has no damn business getting into the private business sector. You then also consider the burden that taxes are on every company (and going up thanks to our socialist Kenyan) and that is a ball and chain any government business doesn't have. That isn't fair "competiton".

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/health/policy/11drug.html?hp

Health insurers said they're gonna rein in costs. Reckon why they ever let it get out of hand in the first place. Oh wait! Couldn't be 'cause of feathering their nests.

Sandhusker, why should I, or anyone else, have to go belly up due to outrageous health care costs, something that CANNOT be avoided, to make the fat cats fatter? My husband is diabetic...and I can see in every bill the padded costs. Hell, we even got a bill from the hospital that said if you pay x amount right off the get go, we'll forgive any other charges. What does that tell you? Could it be...hmmm, we really don't owe that exorbitant amount in the first place?

Is national health care the answer? Right now? Yeah, it is...people are losing their homes...going bankrupt because of padded health care costs...and sneaky health insurance carriers that do anything they can to keep from paying benefits...even if they do it illegally and unethically! Again, I could tell stories!!!!!!

Oh, and for all of you screaming about the costs of emergency rooms and other health care benefits being taken advantage of by illegal immigrants/aliens. I agree totally. I will never, ever begrudge a child needing health care. On the flip side, this government has got to crack down on illegals and the way they rape our system.

Alice
 

Sandhusker

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Would you care to explain how fat those cats are? To better help you, I've included a link to Yahoo Fianance/healh care plans so that you can show us where those outragous profits are.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/522.html
 

aplusmnt

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alice said:
Sandhusker, why should I, or anyone else, have to go belly up due to outrageous health care costs, something that CANNOT be avoided, to make the fat cats fatter? My husband is diabetic...and I can see in every bill the padded costs. Hell, we even got a bill from the hospital that said if you pay x amount right off the get go, we'll forgive any other charges. What does that tell you? Could it be...hmmm, we really don't owe that exorbitant amount in the first place?

Alice

Actually health problems can many times be avoided. Americans are Obese, smoke and eat and drink all the wrong things. If Americans took personal responsibility and took care of themselves they would be laying off medical workers.

And if Americans do not want to do the above then they can work and pay for high insurance the choice is theirs!

I speak from experience, I was young and making good money, but instead of paying medical insurance I bought boats, Motorcycles, rent houses went on vacations and blew money like it would never end. I got caught with no insurance and ended up costing about $50,000 that I had to make payments on.

Now I have insurance, I do not blame the Government, I do not blame insurance companies or medical companies. I was the one to blame, I should have provided, Food, Home, Utilities and Insurance for my family in that order. If after that I could afford Cable TV, computer, boat, furniture, vacations then fine but if not then I should have done with out and provided for my family! Not relied on Government to do my job as a husband and father. I failed them not the Government!
 

alice

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aplusmnt said:
alice said:
Sandhusker, why should I, or anyone else, have to go belly up due to outrageous health care costs, something that CANNOT be avoided, to make the fat cats fatter? My husband is diabetic...and I can see in every bill the padded costs. Hell, we even got a bill from the hospital that said if you pay x amount right off the get go, we'll forgive any other charges. What does that tell you? Could it be...hmmm, we really don't owe that exorbitant amount in the first place?

Alice

Actually health problems can many times be avoided. Americans are Obese, smoke and eat and drink all the wrong things. If Americans took personal responsibility and took care of themselves they would be laying off medical workers.

And if Americans do not want to do the above then they can work and pay for high insurance the choice is theirs!

I speak from experience, I was young and making good money, but instead of paying medical insurance I bought boats, Motorcycles, rent houses went on vacations and blew money like it would never end. I got caught with no insurance and ended up costing about $50,000 that I had to make payments on.

Now I have insurance, I do not blame the Government, I do not blame insurance companies or medical companies. I was the one to blame, I should have provided, Food, Home, Utilities and Insurance for my family in that order. If after that I could afford Cable TV, computer, boat, furniture, vacations then fine but if not then I should have done with out and provided for my family! Not relied on Government to do my job as a husband and father. I failed them not the Government!

How very nice for you, Aplus. We can all tell stories like that... and be really self righteous...until something come completely out of the blue that rocks us, or one of our loved ones, to the proverbial "knees." Then we can rely on our "insurance," what we've dutifully paid forever and ever, only to be told that because of x,y,z, there will be no payment. Then we have a choice...fight like hell, which we shouldn't have to do, or give up, because we're too sick and too tired to fight. AND, that's what insurance companies rely on...or as I was told once by a health insurance adjustor...."We, as a company, don't have a leg to stand on. BUT, we'll keep denying it, 'cause 9 times out of 10, the insured will just give up."

Emergency room cost to me for a dislocated finger and bruised ribs...$2,000. Insurance paid...$600...the actual cost of the emergency room, doctor's visit, treatment and xrays and reading the xrays. What was the other $1400 for. AND, the insurance company tried to wiggle out of the $600.

People get frustrated and tired of fighting, Aplus...and just default, which is what the insurance companies rely on. I paid it and thank GAWD I was able to...but not everyone is.

It's not just because people don't take care of themselves that there is this great big sucking hole in the health care system. And it's not just greed...it's inordinate, unconscionable greed.

Alice
 

Steve

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
For the record, I am not an employee of the USPS. In fact, I don't have any family members or friends that work for USPS.

That said, I think the USPS is one of the best postal operations in the world.

Those of you who are complaining about it have never lived in Africa or Central America!


I worked for the postal service for five years after retiring from the military... for every hardworking employee there is a grievance filing lazy career union whiner.. and the only way most of the career whiners are dealt with is to "promote or transfer them.. so you end up with an equally piss poor manager for every good manager..

the point I was making is that the postal service makes "stupid" decisions.. and then "raises a tax on postage to cover their mistake..

a customer service manager in a 1.2 million dollar house transfers and the USPS buys his home to sell at a loss.. is poor management..
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Richard Doolittle said:
Yes, they are unionized.

Other than electronic technology hurting them, I think their "efficiencies" are possibly a bigger factor. In the old days, a local letter would get sorted locally and delivery would be fast--next day or is some cases, the same day if it was going to an in town post office box. Now the mail is transported hundreds of miles for electronic sorting and delivery. If I mail a letter from Sturgis, SD to Rapid City, SD (30 miles), it is transported 300+ miles to the other side of the state and then delivered back. We can't be assured of next day delivery anywhere. With all this "efficiency", I don't think they've cut numbers of local employees either.

Hey, I've got a great idea; Lets put these same people in charge of our health care!

Actually I heard Secretary Sebelius use the Post Office as an example of why creating a public health insurance plan will NOT run the private insurers out of business- just make them compete- which testimony to Congress was that they are not doing now because of the monoply control of them by only 3-4 major corporate entities...She said the rise in UPS, DHL, Fed-ex, etc. etc. is an example.... In areas/states that have developed an option for a public insurance plan for their employees- the private carriers have lowered rates to compete..

Actually many of these private companies have contracted with USPS to deliver many of their parcels. Apparently the USPS can deliver them cheaper than they can do it themselves.
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
alice said:
Sandhusker said:
Even if that were true, which I doubt as there already is competition, the government has no damn business getting into the private business sector. You then also consider the burden that taxes are on every company (and going up thanks to our socialist Kenyan) and that is a ball and chain any government business doesn't have. That isn't fair "competiton".

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/health/policy/11drug.html?hp

Health insurers said they're gonna rein in costs. Reckon why they ever let it get out of hand in the first place. Oh wait! Couldn't be 'cause of feathering their nests.

Sandhusker, why should I, or anyone else, have to go belly up due to outrageous health care costs, something that CANNOT be avoided, to make the fat cats fatter? My husband is diabetic...and I can see in every bill the padded costs. Hell, we even got a bill from the hospital that said if you pay x amount right off the get go, we'll forgive any other charges. What does that tell you? Could it be...hmmm, we really don't owe that exorbitant amount in the first place?

Is national health care the answer? Right now? Yeah, it is...people are losing their homes...going bankrupt because of padded health care costs...and sneaky health insurance carriers that do anything they can to keep from paying benefits...even if they do it illegally and unethically! Again, I could tell stories!!!!!!

Oh, and for all of you screaming about the costs of emergency rooms and other health care benefits being taken advantage of by illegal immigrants/aliens. I agree totally. I will never, ever begrudge a child needing health care. On the flip side, this government has got to crack down on illegals and the way they rape our system.

Alice

Alice those "extra amounts" they hope to collect from you is an attempt to recoup some of the losses from giving all the free medical attention that the illegals and other un-insured (by choice) are given via the emergency room.
 

Sandhusker

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Sandhusker said:
Would you care to explain how fat those cats are? To better help you, I've included a link to Yahoo Fianance/healh care plans so that you can show us where those outragous profits are.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/522.html

Alice, it's beginning to appear that you didn't really know what you were talking about when you labeled the insurance carriers "fat-cats" and insinuated that they're getting rich by screwing people. Don't tell me that you were just parroting left-wing propaganda? I hope not, that's how poor decisions regarding government are made.....
 
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