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How Muslims think

Faster horses

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Yep, I got it in an email. But I'm going to be daring enough to repost it here anyway. The original email came with a photo of the doctor. Snopes says it is a true account except for the way the woman was burned originally. See link at the bottom.



By Dr. Arieh Eldad an M.D. at Hadassah Hospital in Israel

I was instrumental in establishing the "Israeli National Skin Bank", which
is the largest in the world. The National Skin Bank stores skin for every
day needs as well as for war time or mass casualty situations.

This skin bank is hosted at the Hadassah Ein Kerem University hospital in
Jerusalem where I was the Chairman of plastic surgery.


This is how I was asked to supply skin for an Arab woman from Gaza , who
was hospitalized in Soroka Hospital in Beersheva, after her family burned
her. (Note: This is the part that Snopes says wasn't true. She was burned in an explosion.)

Usually, such atrocities happen among Arab families when the women are
suspected of having an affair.

We supplied all the needed Homografts for her treatment. She was
successfully treated by my friend and colleague, Prof. Lior Rosenberg and
discharged to return to Gaza .

She was invited for regular follow-up visits to the outpatient clinic in
Beersheva.

One day she was caught at a border crossing wearing a suicide belt.
She meant to explode herself in the outpatient clinic of the hospital where
they saved her life.

It seems that her family promised her that if she did that, they would
forgive her.

This is only one example of the war between Jews and Muslims in the Land of
Israel . It is not a territorial conflict. This is a civilizational
conflict, or rather a war between civilization & barbarism.

Bibi (Netanyahu) gets it, Obama does not.
I have never written before asking everyone to please forward onwards so
that as many as possible can understand radical Islam and what awaits
the world if it is not stopped.

Dr Arieh Eldad

http://www.snopes.com/politics/israel/eldad.asp
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Even if the details were not exact, it would be a story that would not surprise anyone, including the left.

If there were a detail that was slightly off, the left will say how wrong the story is. If it is proven exact, they will just dismiss it all by saying that she was a radical mooselum.

They have a strong faith in progressive government.
 

TexasBred

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This book is fiction but is so thoroughly researched as to be almost like living in the time in the newly created country of Israel and the mindset of the Arabs (mostly muslims). If you get a chance read it.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Haj-Leon-Uris/dp/0553248642
 

littlejoe

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TexasBred said:
This book is fiction but is so thoroughly researched as to be almost like living in the time in the newly created country of Israel and the mindset of the Arabs (mostly muslims). If you get a chance read it.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Haj-Leon-Uris/dp/0553248642

Excellent recommendation! like exodus, trinity, etc, uris's fiction gives a firm understanding of truths.
 

Steve

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I can't figure out if liberals think,... let alone how muslims think...

but if they do actually think it is very evil...

three kidnapped teenagers found dead.

JERUSALEM — The Israeli army confirmed Monday evening that search teams found the bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teenagers.

The teenagers were abducted June 12 as they made their way home from their religious school in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

While few details were released on the exact fate of the three teens, security officials said the bodies of Naftali Fraenkel and Gilad Shaar, both 16, and Eyal Yifrach, 19, were found in an open area close to Hebron, in the West Bank, near where they disappeared. Fraenkel was a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen. The three will be laid to rest Tuesday.

Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, an Israeli army spokesman, said the bodies were discovered about 5 p.m. Monday by civilian volunteer searchers and special forces near the village of Halhul just north of Hebron.

On Thursday, Israel released the names of two suspects it said carried out the kidnappings. Israel said that both men are known Hamas operatives and that both have been missing since the three Israeli youths disappeared.

The Israeli military said in a statement Sunday that more than 50 rockets had been fired from Gaza into Israeli territory.

“Netanyahu . . . should know that his threats do not scare Hamas. If he is willing to start a war in Gaza, then the gates of hell will be open to him,” the group said in a statement.

I really doubt if Israel cares if they open the gates to Gaza or not... :roll:
 

loomixguy

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Blackjack Pershing knew how Muslims think. He knew what to do to stop Islamofascists in the Philippines from doing much for 70 years.

Hog blood...and I ain't talking about the 50 weight you dump in your Harley.
 

Faster horses

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loomixguy said:
Blackjack Pershing knew how Muslims think. He knew what to do to stop Islamofascists in the Philippines from doing much for 70 years.

Hog blood...and I ain't talking about the 50 weight you dump in your Harley.

Tell me more...
 

TexasBred

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Faster horses said:
loomixguy said:
Blackjack Pershing knew how Muslims think. He knew what to do to stop Islamofascists in the Philippines from doing much for 70 years.

Hog blood...and I ain't talking about the 50 weight you dump in your Harley.

Tell me more...

Just another urban legend.
 

Traveler

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http://allenbwest.com/2014/07/obama-muslim-brotherhood-cooperation-revealed-smells-like-treason/

According to the Gulf News, cooperation between the Obama administration and the Muslim Brotherhood has been going on for quite some time. In 2010 even before the “Arab Spring,” Obama personally issued Presidential Study Directive 11 (PSD-11) to assess the Muslim Brotherhood and other “political Islamist” movements, including the ruling AKP in Turkey. The report concluded the United States should shift from its longstanding policy of supporting “stability” in the Middle East and North Africa (in other words, supporting “stable regimes” even if they were authoritarian), to a policy of backing “moderate” Islamic political movements.”
 

Traveler

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Traveler said:
http://allenbwest.com/2014/07/obama-muslim-brotherhood-cooperation-revealed-smells-like-treason/

According to the Gulf News, cooperation between the Obama administration and the Muslim Brotherhood has been going on for quite some time. In 2010 even before the “Arab Spring,” Obama personally issued Presidential Study Directive 11 (PSD-11) to assess the Muslim Brotherhood and other “political Islamist” movements, including the ruling AKP in Turkey. The report concluded the United States should shift from its longstanding policy of supporting “stability” in the Middle East and North Africa (in other words, supporting “stable regimes” even if they were authoritarian), to a policy of backing “moderate” Islamic political movements.”
Isn't it unconstitutional for the government to favor one religion over another? At least that's what we've been told, and this sure looks to favor Islam to me.

Also, can't preview or start a thread for some reason.
 

Steve

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I can't understand why in this day and age there isn't world-wide condemnation of these evil acts.

Islamic Extremists Now Crucifying People in Syria—and Tweeting Out the Pictures

the revival of an ancient form of torture is one sign of what life is like under the rule of one of Syria’s powerful Islamist factions. And it’s an indication that, despite years of public hand-wringing in the West over Syria’s bloody and rapid decline, the country is continuing to plummet into new depths of the abyss.

One of the earliest mentions of the crucifixions in Raqqa came from Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi, a student at Oxford University and a Shillman-Ginsburg Fellow at the Middle East Forum. Al-Tamimi reported the executions and posted a photo of one of the crucified men 4 minutes before the tweet from the self-identified ISIS account.

ISIS jihadists fighting in Syria, Iraq crucify 9 men, establish ‘caliphate’

BAGHDAD: The jihadist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, also known as Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has publicly executed and crucified nine men in Syria, eight of them rebels fighting both President Bashar al-Assad's regime and the jihadists, a monitor said on Sunday.

the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

"ISIS executed eight men in Deir Hafer in the east of Aleppo province" on Saturday because they belonged to rebel groups that had fought against the jihadists as well as Assad's forces, it said.

ISIS then "crucified them in the main square of the village, where their bodies will remain for three days", the Britain-based monitor said.

Also in Aleppo province, a ninth man was executed and crucified in Al-Bab town near the border with Turkey.
links not given do to the gruesome nature of the pictures.

when I see these B------- driving around in us equipment, and using our weapons to fight, It nauseates me to think about how we pulled out, and left the door wide open for these evil B-------.

and to think Obama wants to help them in Syria is despicable
 

Traveler

Well-known member
Steve said:
I can't understand why in this day and age there isn't world-wide condemnation of these evil acts.

Islamic Extremists Now Crucifying People in Syria—and Tweeting Out the Pictures

the revival of an ancient form of torture is one sign of what life is like under the rule of one of Syria’s powerful Islamist factions. And it’s an indication that, despite years of public hand-wringing in the West over Syria’s bloody and rapid decline, the country is continuing to plummet into new depths of the abyss.

One of the earliest mentions of the crucifixions in Raqqa came from Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi, a student at Oxford University and a Shillman-Ginsburg Fellow at the Middle East Forum. Al-Tamimi reported the executions and posted a photo of one of the crucified men 4 minutes before the tweet from the self-identified ISIS account.

ISIS jihadists fighting in Syria, Iraq crucify 9 men, establish ‘caliphate’

BAGHDAD: The jihadist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, also known as Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has publicly executed and crucified nine men in Syria, eight of them rebels fighting both President Bashar al-Assad's regime and the jihadists, a monitor said on Sunday.

the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

"ISIS executed eight men in Deir Hafer in the east of Aleppo province" on Saturday because they belonged to rebel groups that had fought against the jihadists as well as Assad's forces, it said.

ISIS then "crucified them in the main square of the village, where their bodies will remain for three days", the Britain-based monitor said.

Also in Aleppo province, a ninth man was executed and crucified in Al-Bab town near the border with Turkey.
links not given do to the gruesome nature of the pictures.

when I see these B------- driving around in us equipment, and using our weapons to fight, It nauseates me to think about how we pulled out, and left the door wide open for these evil B-------.

and to think Obama wants to help them in Syria is despicable
The parallels to the Holocaust are sickening. Like looking the other way while Hitler exterminated Jews.
 
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Have The Islamist Militants Overreached In Iraq And Syria?




by Deborah Amos

July 05, 2014 5:14 AM ET

The Islamist radicals who have declared an Islamic caliphate on land they control straddling Iraq and Syria are waging an audacious publicity stunt, according to some analysts.

While it may bring them even greater attention, it's also likely to be an overreach that will open rifts with its current partners, the Sunni Muslims in Iraq who welcomed the militant group in early June. They all share the goal of overthrowing Iraq's Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his sectarian rule, but the more secular parts of the Sunni coalition didn't sign up for an Islamic state.

"By announcing the caliphate, they are picking a fight with everybody," says David Kilcullen, a guerrilla warfare expert and former chief counter-terrorism strategist for the U.S. State Department.

The militants were known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS. But in announcing a caliphate, which is a single, unified Islamic state, they are now simply calling themselves the Islamic State.

The group has been taking territory since last year, first in Syria and now in Iraq. They grabbed international attention last month when they seized the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, one of the largest and most important population centers in Iraq.

But so far, at least, the Islamic State has not tried to make the city the centerpiece of the declared caliphate.

"No, no, there is nothing like that in Mosul," insists a former Iraqi military officer when reached by phone. He dismisses the caliphate with a snort, because, he says, "the other groups object."

The former officer says he fears retribution from the Maliki government and didn't want his name published. He says he is part of the Sunni alliance in Mosul that originally welcomed the Islamic State. Now, he has some doubts.

"We will soon name one of our people to be the boss in Mosul," he says. "There is no caliphate here."

A Sunni Alliance Of Convenience

The Islamic State declared the caliphate on June 30, three weeks after a successful sweep across northern and western Iraq in a land grab that includes strategic border posts.

A small group of IS fighters served as the "tip of the spear" in this Sunni alliance of convenience. In the first thrust of the spear, IS was supported by tribal chiefs, village elders, Islamist groups, former military officers from an army disbanded by the U.S. in 2003, and former members of the outlawed Baathist party that governed Iraq under Saddam Hussein.

But now IS is in classic overreach mode, says Kilcullen. Other analysts agree that IS's ambitions will create divisions.

"It will help and hurt" the Islamic State, says Ramzy Mardini, a non-resident fellow at the Washington-based Atlantic Council. Declaring a caliphate "creates uncertainty for the Sunnis that backed" the group, he says. Mardini points out that IS arrived in Mosul in early June with a limited force of around 2,000 fighters. They were prepared to spring prisoners from the jails. They didn't expect the Iraqi army to collapse so quickly.

"They weren't prepared to take over a city of 2 million people," he says.

The caliphate, with deep religious symbolism that harkens back to the early days of Islam, is a recruiting bid to a wider audience, says Mardini.

The brash quest to redraw the map of the Middle East was trumpeted on IS's social media outlets in a video titled "Breaking Borders" and translated into English, Russian, French, German and Albanian.

IS is now calling on Muslims to immigrate, specifically "religious scholars, particularly judges, those with military, administrative and service experience, doctors and engineers."

"They are over-stretched. They need new blood," says Mardini.


'Iraqis Like To Drink, Dance And Smoke'

The self-declared caliphate had immediate detractors. Rival groups fighting in Syria were the first to speak against the caliphate. IS has already hijacked the Syrian revolt, turning a citizen's rebellion into a terrorist war.

Religious scholars across the region called the caliphate "nonsense." Arabic-language Facebook pages popped up to satirize the elusive IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and imaged his rejection of a "friend" request from the al-Qaida boss, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Even al-Qaida considers IS too extreme.

But the reaction of Iraq's Sunni community is a key to the future power of IS.

"In Iraq, 99 percent of the Sunni Arabs don't want to live under a caliphate," says Ali Khedery, who served as a political adviser to U.S. ambassadors and top military commanders in Iraq and the Middle East from 2003 to 2010. He resigned in protest when the U.S. supported Maliki's second term as prime minister.

"Iraqis like to drink, dance, and smoke. They don't want to be ruled by Chechens and Afghans and live under 7th-century standards," Khedery says.


In some IS-controlled neighborhoods in Mosul, masked fighters enforce a radical Islamist code of behavior announced in some mosques and on social media. But other neighborhoods are controlled by local Sunnis who ignore IS edicts.

After an initial exodus of the Christian community, some are returning to Mosul, including the head of Chaldean Church, Archbishop Emil Nona. Many IS fighters have moved on to the front lines, so their presence in limited in Mosul and in the Christian villages in the suburbs of the city.

"I can't say if there is future or not, because we don't know which future we have," says the wary archbishop.

However, IS is "filling a vacuum as the Iraqi state collapses," according to Khedery, the former U.S. adviser.

'They've Booby-Trapped The Whole City'

So far, the Sunni coalition has not publicly split with IS. There is no incentive, says Ramzy Mardini, as long as Maliki is still a contender for a third term in office. Iraq's Sunnis are not yet willing to "take their foot off the accelerator," he says.

The Sunnis believe undercutting IS now would lift the pressure on Baghdad.


But the longer IS remains unchallenged, the stronger it is likely to become, says Mardini.

Take the example of Tikrit. The city was captured in a matter of hours by IS militants on June 11. Soon after, IS posted photographs of the spoils of war after capturing a prison and executing scores of Iraqi soldiers.

"When they first came to Tikrit, it was a bunch of guys in pickup trucks," says Zaid Al-Ali, the author of The Struggle for Iraq's Future and someone who has close family ties in Tikrit.

"Now, they've booby-trapped the whole city," he says. IS brought compressors to dig up the streets and plant bombs on strategic roadways, according to relatives who witnessed the takeover.

IS is growing in strength, says Al-Ali, "The longer Maliki stays in office, the more entrenched they become."
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Have The Islamist Militants Overreached In Iraq And Syria?



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either way,..Obama has asked for another 500 million to help them.

President Obama requests $500mn for Syria militants

If approved, the program would supplement a covert train-and-assistance program run by US intelligence agencies

I would rather see Obama blow it on another failed solar project then on militants intent on blowing US up... (sarcasm)
 
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Anonymous

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Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
Have The Islamist Militants Overreached In Iraq And Syria?



"

either way,..Obama has asked for another 500 million to help them.

President Obama requests $500mn for Syria militants

If approved, the program would supplement a covert train-and-assistance program run by US intelligence agencies

I would rather see Obama blow it on another failed solar project then on militants intent on blowing US up... (sarcasm)

I personally think we should NOT sink one more dime into that sandtrap...

The part of the article that was interesting to me was the part about the Sunni's not actually supporting the IS movement- but just wanting to use them as a way to get rid of Maliki and his Shia government..
(The enemy of my enemy is my friend)
And that since they've had years of freedom from Islamic law under both Saddam and the US- now they don't want to go back to that old way of thinking...

Religious scholars across the region called the caliphate "nonsense." Arabic-language Facebook pages popped up to satirize the elusive IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and imaged his rejection of a "friend" request from the al-Qaida boss, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Even al-Qaida considers IS too extreme.

But the reaction of Iraq's Sunni community is a key to the future power of IS.

"In Iraq, 99 percent of the Sunni Arabs don't want to live under a caliphate," says Ali Khedery, who served as a political adviser to U.S. ambassadors and top military commanders in Iraq and the Middle East from 2003 to 2010. He resigned in protest when the U.S. supported Maliki's second term as prime minister.

"Iraqis like to drink, dance, and smoke. They don't want to be ruled by Chechens and Afghans and live under 7th-century standards," Khedery says.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Yeah, I think the US stabilizing the world and having the greatest period of industrialization with the greatest increase in standard of living for the world in history is just dumb.

I think it should just all go to hell in a hand basket.


I like the idea of rampant piracy and increased cost of goods because of it. I like the idea of letting China pound Taiwan and Japan. Who needs to trade? We can just eat our own beef. Worked out so well for Argentina.

Whistle! Whistle! Great ideas! :clap: :clap: :clap:
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Traveler said:
Traveler said:
http://allenbwest.com/2014/07/obama-muslim-brotherhood-cooperation-revealed-smells-like-treason/

According to the Gulf News, cooperation between the Obama administration and the Muslim Brotherhood has been going on for quite some time. In 2010 even before the “Arab Spring,” Obama personally issued Presidential Study Directive 11 (PSD-11) to assess the Muslim Brotherhood and other “political Islamist” movements, including the ruling AKP in Turkey. The report concluded the United States should shift from its longstanding policy of supporting “stability” in the Middle East and North Africa (in other words, supporting “stable regimes” even if they were authoritarian), to a policy of backing “moderate” Islamic political movements.”
Isn't it unconstitutional for the government to favor one religion over another? At least that's what we've been told, and this sure looks to favor Islam to me.

Also, can't preview or start a thread for some reason.


I would say that the US was built on the favor of one religion. It was not established with the favor of one sect of that religion.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71109

"At the time of the adoption of the Constitution, and of the Amendment to it now under consideration, the general, if not the universal, sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the State so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience and the freedom of religious worship.

An attempt to level all religions, and to make it a matter of state policy to hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal disapprobation, if not universal indignation.

But the duty of supporting religion, and especially the Christian religion, is very different from the right to force the consciences of other men or to punish them for worshipping God in the manner which they believe their accountability to Him requires...

The rights of conscience are, indeed, beyond the just reach of any human power. They are given by God, and cannot be encroached upon by human authority without a criminal disobedience of the precepts of natural as well as of revealed religion."

Justice Story continued:

"The real object of the First Amendment was not to countenance, much less to advance Mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity, but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects and to prevent any national ecclesiastical establishment which should give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage of the national government."

It's a long thread, but I think a good read regarding the true history and thought in the infancy of our nation.
 

kolanuraven

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First off, I'm not sure FH even knows a Muslim.

BUT, I said it years ago and I'll say it again.

We should just let'm all fight it out in the Middle East, and whomever is standing after the dust settles, then that's the people you deal with.

We've done a grand job of fducking it up already, so we can't make it much worse.......

Better yet, why isn't GW over there trying to work things out? He and his crew knew so much about that area years ago, where are they now???
 

iwannabeacowboy

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kolanuraven said:
First off, I'm not sure FH even knows a Muslim.

BUT, I said it years ago and I'll say it again.

We should just let'm all fight it out in the Middle East, and whomever is standing after the dust settles, then that's the people you deal with.

We've done a grand job of fducking it up already, so we can't make it much worse.......

Better yet, why isn't GW over there trying to work things out? He and his crew knew so much about that area years ago, where are they now???


Why are you always stalking FH?

Seriously, this is funny stuff. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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