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How to end violence...........

kolanuraven

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Well, one thing I would cast an opinion towards is better parenting.

Granted the generations now, 18-30, sadly may be lost to us.

BUT,better parenting from better parents would curb A LOT of this violence we see today.

Of course, it's a great idea but in today's times I'd have no clue how we'd get this idea started.

Sad............ :cry:
 

Traveler

Well-known member
That's what happens when the government becomes many baby's daddy. A vicious circle is created and perpetuated. Also, didn't Obama recently rescind any work requirement for welfare? A chance at learning responsibility lost.
 

Triangle Bar

Well-known member
Better parenting starts with a healthy and stable family unit. Where the
parents are responsible for all aspects of their children's development
including a strong moral makeup.

Our society is decomposing from a Christian based philosophy where our
rights are endowed by our creator... to a humanist based philosophy where
rights are endowed by man's own thinking. That is where liberty becomes
confused with license. Where the value of human life is degraded, be it
for the unborn or our seniors.
 

Mike

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Well, one thing I would cast an opinion towards is better parenting.


BUT,better parenting from better parents would curb A LOT of this violence we see today.

No kidding? WOW! What a revelation!!!!! You're a genius!!!!!!!!!! :roll:
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Christian values lead to better parenting but the government wants to strip those values from everyday life. :?

No quick fixes here, Uncle Joe can't wave a magic wand and fix anything.

I think somebody here suggested a high tax on violent movies and video games to pay for mental health issues. Better that won't fly.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Mike said:
kolanuraven said:
Well, one thing I would cast an opinion towards is better parenting.


BUT,better parenting from better parents would curb A LOT of this violence we see today.

No kidding? WOW! What a revelation!!!!! You're a genius!!!!!!!!!! :roll:


I wasn't trying to be a smartass....but you can't seem to help yourself.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
And herein lays the problem.


Something like this, kids getting slaughtered, people enjoying a nite at the movies gunned down....it's not a Left vs Right thing.

Crazy mean and stupid knows no political direction.

I'm wasting my time here...............

All you (collectively) want to do is blame Oldtimer and dig up posts from 3,4,5 yrs ago on people that don't even post here anymore.
 
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kolanuraven said:
And herein lays the problem.


Something like this, kids getting slaughtered, people enjoying a nite at the movies gunned down....it's not a Left vs Right thing.

Crazy mean and stupid knows no political direction.

I'm wasting my time here...............

All you (collectively) want to do is blame Oldtimer and dig up posts from 3,4,5 yrs ago on people that don't even post here anymore.

Yep I agree--And therein lies the problem in D.C. that will give us no answer or not even come close to solving the problem because the two cults are too busy stabbing each other in the back or trying to oneup each other that they don't have time to look for real answers...
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
And herein lays the problem.


Something like this, kids getting slaughtered, people enjoying a nite at the movies gunned down....it's not a Left vs Right thing.

Crazy mean and stupid knows no political direction.

I'm wasting my time here...............

All you (collectively) want to do is blame Oldtimer and dig up posts from 3,4,5 yrs ago on people that don't even post here anymore.

You had some sincere responses but you never acknowledged them.

In you first post you said "BUT,better parenting from better parents would curb A LOT of this violence we see today.

Of course, it's a great idea but in today's times I'd have no clue how we'd get this idea started."

With out putting words in your mouth if I remember correctly you supported the Democrats? It's not the Republicans that was the Ten commandants taken down and no prayer in school ect.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
kolanuraven said:
And herein lays the problem.


Something like this, kids getting slaughtered, people enjoying a nite at the movies gunned down....it's not a Left vs Right thing.

Crazy mean and stupid knows no political direction.

I'm wasting my time here...............

All you (collectively) want to do is blame Oldtimer and dig up posts from 3,4,5 yrs ago on people that don't even post here anymore.

You had some sincere responses but you never acknowledged them.

In you first post you said "BUT,better parenting from better parents would curb A LOT of this violence we see today.

Of course, it's a great idea but in today's times I'd have no clue how we'd get this idea started."

With out putting words in your mouth if I remember correctly you supported the Democrats? It's not the Republicans that was the Ten commandants taken down and no prayer in school ect.




If you would remember CORRECTLY....I tend to support issues on BOTH sides of the political realm.

I don't dog pile up on one party or the other...that's just silly and limits a person to choices.

Now I do tend to lean toward Democrat and vote that way prob 95% of the time.

BUT....there are some Rep's and their ideas that I do like and respect.

To me, having a liberal tendency means you are willing to be liberal, as defined below:


lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.
1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
kolanuraven said:
And herein lays the problem.


Something like this, kids getting slaughtered, people enjoying a nite at the movies gunned down....it's not a Left vs Right thing.

Crazy mean and stupid knows no political direction.

I'm wasting my time here...............

All you (collectively) want to do is blame Oldtimer and dig up posts from 3,4,5 yrs ago on people that don't even post here anymore.

You had some sincere responses but you never acknowledged them.

In you first post you said "BUT,better parenting from better parents would curb A LOT of this violence we see today.

Of course, it's a great idea but in today's times I'd have no clue how we'd get this idea started."

With out putting words in your mouth if I remember correctly you supported the Democrats? It's not the Republicans that was the Ten commandants taken down and no prayer in school ect.




If you would remember CORRECTLY....I tend to support issues on BOTH sides of the political realm.

I don't dog pile up on one party or the other...that's just silly and limits a person to choices.

Now I do tend to lean toward Democrat and vote that way prob 95% of the time.

BUT....there are some Rep's and their ideas that I do like and respect.

To me, having a liberal tendency means you are willing to be liberal, as defined below:


lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.
1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.


Yes but,
dem·o·crat
[dem-uh-krat] Show IPA
noun

a person who believes in the political or social equality of all people.


I'm all for equal pay for equal work but this think of all social equality of all people. Leads to the NO Winners/ NO Losers mentality that hard work isn't necessary as the government will take care of me. This starts with little children expecting to get a ribbon or trophy for just participating and not doing their best as follows them into later life expecting to be given everything.
You have worked hard to get your education and you have a ranch why should your hard work be shared with those that won't work.
 

Mike

Well-known member
When someone over-simplifies a subject such as violence being the fruit of bad parenting is put forth, it has no merit because there is no legislative solution.

A cultural & societal degeneration has taken place with a pervasive liberal attitude to stop the death sentence penalty, lower prison sentences in general, and cover up completely the juvenile crimes.

A huge implication to the criminal culture that abortion (the killing of an innocent) is legal and legitimate, tremendously shapes that culture that human life has and is becoming less valuable.

If a person values & respects human life, he will not be violent towards it unless he is threatened.

The animal attitude in the lower class "Thug" culture has bled into the middle and upper class. Just opposite the way it should work.

Only society can stop it. Not Law. It is no longer a deterrent for too many.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Mike said:
When someone over-simplifies a subject such as violence being the fruit of bad parenting is put forth, it has no merit because there is no legislative solution.




Only society can stop it. Not Law. It is no longer a deterrent for too many.


Your first and last sentence contradict each other...
 

Mike

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Mike said:
When someone over-simplifies a subject such as violence being the fruit of bad parenting is put forth, it has no merit because there is no legislative solution.




Only society can stop it. Not Law. It is no longer a deterrent for too many.


Your first and last sentence contradict each other...

"no legislative solution" and "Only society can stop it" (violence OR bad parenting) surely do not seem contradictive to me. Are you sure you can read?
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
the book by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.: The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness. Dr. Rossiter notes that:

Under the creed of modern liberalism, the individual citizen is not called to maturity but is instead invited to begin a second childhood. Like the child at play, he is given, or at least promised, ultimate economic, social and political security without having to assume responsibility for himself...


The modern state has taken on the role of an apparently benign, generous, omnipotent and god-like parent, who serves as custodian, manager, provider and caretaker, all to the detriment of the people. We have, in effect, parentified our governments in the belief that we will be better off if they take care of us than if we take care of ourselves...

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/0977956318/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1357702180&sr=1-1&keywords=Liberal+Mind#sf
 

Martin Jr.

Well-known member
The government may not be able to legislate or rule good, but seems to have the power to rule for evil.

But there are other entities that can work for the good, and sometimes find themselves at odds with the government.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
And herein lays the problem.


Something like this, kids getting slaughtered, people enjoying a nite at the movies gunned down....it's not a Left vs Right thing.

Crazy mean and stupid knows no political direction.

I'm wasting my time here...............

All you (collectively) want to do is blame Oldtimer and dig up posts from 3,4,5 yrs ago on people that don't even post here anymore.

Its a little older than 5 years but Hillary's opinion was, "It takes a village". That was far left. Look at where it gets us.
 
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