How will I spend all this money????

[TimH]

Took an old(6 yrs) Charolais bull to town the other day.If I remember right I paid $2100 when I bought him. He weighed 2360 lbs. He brought a whopping 26.5 cents/lb. for a total of $625.40..... subtract from that $30 friggin' dollars salebarn comission,(these guys are out of control), another 5 bucks for various checkoffs(these jerkoffs are REALLY out of control), and another $1.19 for "insurance",whatever the "F" that means, plus another 40 dollars worth of fuel to haul him to town, and I'm left with about $548.00!!!
HELL, I COULD BUY ABOUT 150 GALLONS OF DIESEL FUEL FOR THAT KIND OF COIN!!!!!

 

[HAY MAKER]

$2100-$548= $1552 - x how many cows bred for how many years,dont sound all bad..................good luck

 

[Anonymous]

Took an old(6 yrs) Charolais bull to town the other day.If I remember right I paid $2100 when I bought him. He weighed 2360 lbs. He brought a whopping 26.5 cents/lb. for a total of $625.40..... subtract from that $30 friggin' dollars salebarn comission,(these guys are out of control), another 5 bucks for various checkoffs(these jerkoffs are REALLY out of control), and another $1.19 for "insurance",whatever the "F" that means, plus another 40 dollars worth of fuel to haul him to town, and I'm left with about $548.00!!!
HELL, I COULD BUY ABOUT 150 GALLONS OF DIESEL FUEL FOR THAT KIND OF COIN!!!!!

Thats what you get for that high valued Canuck dollar-- heck down here we'd only get $55-60 cwt for the same bull...Around $1400 :wink: :lol:

Now do you see why the Packer mafia wants the border opened to old beef at all costs.... :???:

 

[TimH]

$2100-$548= $1552 - x many cows bred for x many years,dont sound all bad..................good luck

Ya, you're right Haymaker, I should be happy.......except that, it seems to me I remember selling a 2400 lb. bull in 2001 for about 75 or 77 cents per pound........(you know, back when fuel was about a buck a gallon.....Oh, the memories...)

Forget it......... I'm OVERJOYED just knowing that I have supplied some wholesome 'burger meat to some snot-nosed little puke who really appreciates it, at a reasonable price. I'll sleep well tonight. :roll: :roll: :wink:

What are cull bulls going for in Texas this week???

 

[Mike]

Good lean bulls are bringing 62-65 cents here.

Couple of years ago they were bring 70-78 cents. :lol:

 

[PureCountry]

And unfortunately right now 4-500lb steers are about 85-90cents/lb, with heifers usually 12-15 cents back of that. The BIG "D" stands for Disgusting this year, and our cattle market is rolling along through it so slow you'd think it was driving Miss Daisy. Oh how I love the switch to direct marketing.

 

[PPRM]

I was just in BC...I can't fathom how anyone in the cattle business can hear "Our calves are only worth $83/cwt" in a time when our local calves are worth more than a dollar and not have some sort of empathetic sinking feeling in thier gut. We have all been through price drops and know the sinking feeling....

There are times when it is right to talk about politics and such, but there are times when "I am sorry to hear that, I have been through price drops and know the feeling" is more appropriate.....

We may live in different countries, we may have differing political views, but we are all cattleman and Cattlewomen and know how bad it feels to put all of yourself into a set of calves and get nothing for it,

Tim H, I wish better for you and your friends/countrymen.....Thoughts and prayers are with you,

Just my thoughts....

PPRM

 

[Silver]

Thats what you get for that high valued Canuck dollar-- heck down here we'd only get $55-60 cwt for the same bull...Around $1400 :wink: :lol:

But keep in mind OT, thats 1400 U-Haul dollars, and everybody knows what they're worth now..... :wink:

 

[Northern Rancher]

Kind of an interesting year-fats,yearlings,calves and the cost of gain are all about the same 85-90 cents for the most part. Real good eight weight steers brought .97 up here on Monday. The guy who sold 800 lbs of yearling can go out and buy himself two 400 pound calves for pretty much the same money. If you marry yourself to just one segment of the cattle business you pretty much take what the market gives you unfortunately. We hit a pretty good lick on our bred heifers-I backed our handshake price off a bit but still did alright on them. They're weighing our cattle on feed on monday so we'll know where our cost of gain is on them-they gained 4.9 ponds a daty the first 80 days but they were a bit too green going on feed-I'll be happy if they do 3.5 over the whole feedlot deal. Were putting another load on feed as soon as I get all my yearlings back from rented pasture.

 

[Manitoba_Rancher]

NR,

Its tough going here to get .77 for fats. Lots of guys jsut calling it quits in this area. Bred cow dispersal sales are booked solid til spring. Will be interesting to see what bred cows bring this fall and winter.

 

[HAY MAKER]

$2100-$548= $1552 - x many cows bred for x many years,dont sound all bad..................good luck

Ya, you're right Haymaker, I should be happy.......except that, it seems to me I remember selling a 2400 lb. bull in 2001 for about 75 or 77 cents per pound........(you know, back when fuel was about a buck a gallon.....Oh, the memories...)

Forget it......... I'm OVERJOYED just knowing that I have supplied some wholesome 'burger meat to some snot-nosed little puke who really appreciates it, at a reasonable price. I'll sleep well tonight. :roll: :roll: :wink:

What are cull bulls going for in Texas this week???

Just about double of what you got........58.50 to 62.25 last week...........good luck

 

[Denny]

All though those prices are bad.I remember selling butcher cows and bull's pre BSE for 20 to 30 cent's.The local packing plant had a line of Canadian Cattle Pots daily.Locals were only allowed to bring cows in on tuesday morning's now we can bring in cattle all week long and we get paid fair for them..I sold a bull last week he was in rough shape and brought 55 cents weighing 1500#s Good ton bulls were 60 to 62 cents.They take $1 out for the beef tax and that is it for deduction's.

Pre Bse I hauled 3 butcher cows in and got paid under a $1000 for all 3.We had low butcher cow prices since the dairy buy out in the 80's so we know what it's like..

 

[Northern Rancher]

I've never had a bull that big to lose that much money on since my Charolais days-just think of all the sleep we lost when calves worrying about when they were going to crash. Now all we have are sweet dreams about when they're going to go back up. I might be crazy but somehow I don't think our dollar is staying up there permanently unless Stepen Harper figures out some monetary viagra to keep it looking impressive.

 

[Shelly]

Can somebody explain to me why our cattle up here are selling so much lower than what you're reciving in the states, and our dollar is equal or even higher some days than the american dollar? ****, last week, fat cows ready for slaughter, were selling for 7 cents a pound at one of the local markets! I am REALLY not looking forward to selling our calves next Monday! Sat in at a couple of sales lately, every calf, every size, shape, and color were just STOLEN!

 

[PPRM]

Can somebody explain to me why our cattle up here are selling so much lower than what you're reciving in the states, and our dollar is equal or even higher some days than the american dollar? s***, last week, fat cows ready for slaughter, were selling for 7 cents a pound at one of the local markets! I am REALLY not looking forward to selling our calves next Monday! Sat in at a couple of sales lately, every calf, every size, shape, and color were just STOLEN!

I can't....With an even dollar, the transport costs would be about te only thing to figure.....It takes a bit to keep them identified and tracable, but that should be extremely negligible....When i traveled BC, I felt like there was a 20 cent difference. I also felt it was a lot less than 20 cents to ship them to the Columbia Basin...

Matbe part of it is any pen space and feed available was already budgeted. Feed is tight so likely when your calves got cheaper, to feed extra would mean buying feed that was not budgeted for and maybe would need to be payed a higher price for.

Like I said, I dunno. I am not in a position to buy calves right now, so can only speculate why others aren't. The only thing I can come up with is the way feed is, nobody bought extra for a sudden availability of calves at the right price....

I hope for brighter days for you all...Anyone, US or Canada, that has not locked in a orice before now...It is always a bad idea to wait till the grass is gone to sell your cattle, but with feed, this year it is especially so,

PPRM

 

[Ranchy]

Shelly, I haven't a clue. :???:

Last week, bulls were bringing from $55-56.25 cwt. They only had 4 bulls in the sale at Deming, though........the lowest priced one was red, the rest were black. I do know that in our part of the country, for the most part, black and black baldie cattle bring more than other colors. I have no idea why about that, either.

Surely am not looking forward to seeing what the ones we shipped yesterday, are going to bring............I fear it will be quite low, compared to the $105-139/ctw for steers and $89.75 to 132/cwt for heifers last week. :?

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Can somebody explain to me why our cattle up here are selling so much lower than what you're reciving in the states, and our dollar is equal or even higher some days than the american dollar? s***, last week, fat cows ready for slaughter, were selling for 7 cents a pound at one of the local markets! I am REALLY not looking forward to selling our calves next Monday! Sat in at a couple of sales lately, every calf, every size, shape, and color were just STOLEN!

Shelly as our dollar gets higher our price goes down. In Canada we have more rules making it more expensive to process fat cattle. Barley gain is costing more then corn gain and it takes 2 weeks to get a time slot to get a load of calves across the border . The extra processing cost money to get calves south and freight is much higher then a few years ago.

 

[Red Robin]

BMR how does the cost of production compare to here for the cow calf producer? Do you know?

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

BMR how does the cost of production compare to here for the cow calf producer? Do you know?

I don't know how close it it is. Probably differs more between some producers then between countries. Generally your land costs are higher but some places are more productive and less winter.
I would have to try and find some studies done here and you find some from your area.
Maybe a good project for us this winter. I'm sure TTB and Hanta could help us out from their areas.

 

[Red Robin]

BMR how does the cost of production compare to here for the cow calf producer? Do you know?

I don't know how close it it is. Probably differs more between some producers then between countries. Generally your land costs are higher but some places are more productive and less winter.
I would have to try and find some studies done here and you find some from your area.
Maybe a good project for us this winter. I'm sure TTB and Hanta could help us out from their areas.

Our land prices have sure got out of hand here at least. I remember a post from one of you wool under wearing neighbors to the north that said pick-ups were quite a bit higher. Just curious how much folding money difference there was between the two countries, if any. I'll look around down here and see if I can find any data for Arkanasas. Probably not but I can find something on chickens I bet if you're interested.