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How's This for an "Industry Committment"

TimH

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I give up. Between Flounder,R2, bse-tester, Mike, Porker , OT and Sandhusker you have all managed to convince me of a few things.........

#1- All beef from any BSE positive country should be considered tainted.
#2- SRM removal is a joke.
#3- vCJD is definitely caused by eating beef.
#4- The world is set to see an epidemic of vCJD(because of all the tainted beef).
#5- "BSE infectivity" can't help but be in the muscle tissue of cattle.(the fact that there is no evidence of this matters not).

Because of these 5 points,and others, I have devised a 100 day plan to force the CFIA and USDA(as the US is BSE positive as well) to mandate 100% BSE testing, in order to assure food safety, or completely eliminate this dangerous and deadly food source we call beef, in North America.
This 100 day plan is quite simple...... First thing tomorrow morning, go out and shoot 1% of your cattle.Incinerate them. Then tell everyone you know to stop buying and consuming beef as it will probably kill them. Purchase an ad in the "Washington Post", if you like.
Then call up the CFIA or USDA and tell them what you have done. Explain to them that if they don't implement mandatory testing of all cattle(using Ron's unvalidated test of course) you are going to destroy another 1% of your herd again the next day. If they haven't mandated 100% testing by the next morning, go out and destroy another 1% of your herd......and so on and so on..... either way, within 100 days we will either have 100% BSE testing in order to assure food safety or this deadly beef stuff will no longer exist. If every cattle producer does it it will work. It is the only responsible thing to do.
Who is with me???? Oldtimer??? Mike??? Sandhusker???? C'mon fellas lets see some "industry committment"!!!!

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Daily it becomes easier to why Canada is in the pickle it is :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

TimH

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Oldtimer said:
Daily it becomes easier to why Canada is in the pickle it is :wink: :lol: :lol:

So...... are you in... or are you out Oldtimer. Bse has been detected in the native USA herd. Every animal that you sell is obviously putting consumers at risk. Let's have some industry commitment to food safety and force 100% testing NOW. There is not a moment to spare. This is definitely a food safety/human health issue. Just ask flounder.
I'll shoot 1% of my herd every day if you will.
In or out Oldtimer???? :D
 

Mike

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No Tim, I'm not in.

There were many mistakes in the epidemic in the UK which led to the media blitz about BSE. Had the Brits not attempted to cover it up in the beginning, BSE would be pretty much a non-event today. The UK BSE Inquiry is an apologetic attempt to set the record straight.

But the damage was already done.

Same thing happened in Japan in 2001 when they found their first cases of BSE . Meat distributors got caught swapping labels on possibly infected beef which led to the consumer confidence decline.

The media is our worst enemy and each small mistake or mis-statement by our leaders only fuel the fires of discontent with our biggest enemies...........the vegetarians and PETA type idiots.

I forget which one but I think I remember one of your guys (was it Claude?) saying (something to the effect of) 'BSE is non-existant in Canada - it ain't here, period'. I also think the phrase, "Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up" was coined in Canada.

But when Ann got caught with her hand in the cookie jar concerning the Washington cow, amongst the many other USDA comedy's, it is clearly evident that honesty is the best policy.

My number one answer to the whole debacle would be to:

Allow private testing (with oversight-of course) just as they do for all other human and cattle diseases.

Whether testing is 100% accurate or not, it would go a long way to shut the damn media up.

When have you heard from your buddy, Red River?
 

TimH

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Oh, My Gawd!!!! I think I am seeing a "lack of industry commitment" here.
C'mon people, we have BSE in our native herds. SRM removal is a joke(just ask bse-tester or Oldtimer's vet buddy). Cattle are capable of transmitting BSE to humans through their muscle meat or milk within hours of consuming "contaminated" feed. People of all ages are,or, soon will be dropping like flies from vCJD, which is definitely caused by eating beef!!!!!!
We need to test all cattle NOW, or quit selling this deadly product to the unsuspecting consumer.
We obviously cannot trust the USDA/CFIA/packers to do the right thing. They are only in it for the money.
The buck starts and stops with the cow/calf producer/feeder. How can you people sleep at night knowing that your product is killing innocent children???
I beg you, go out and shoot 1% of your herd each day until our governments mandate 100% BSE testing or until these deadly cattle are eradicated, whichever comes first. It is the right thing to do.

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Tam

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Mike said:
No Tim, I'm not in.

There were many mistakes in the epidemic in the UK which led to the media blitz about BSE. Had the Brits not attempted to cover it up in the beginning, BSE would be pretty much a non-event today. The UK BSE Inquiry is an apologetic attempt to set the record straight.

But the damage was already done.

Same thing happened in Japan in 2001 when they found their first cases of BSE . Meat distributors got caught swapping labels on possibly infected beef which led to the consumer confidence decline.

The media is our worst enemy and each small mistake or mis-statement by our leaders only fuel the fires of discontent with our biggest enemies...........the vegetarians and PETA type idiots.

I forget which one but I think I remember one of your guys (was it Claude?) saying (something to the effect of) 'BSE is non-existant in Canada - it ain't here, period'. I also think the phrase, "Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up" was coined in Canada.
But when Ann got caught with her hand in the cookie jar concerning the Washington cow, amongst the many other USDA comedy's, it is clearly evident that honesty is the best policy.

My number one answer to the whole debacle would be to:

Allow private testing (with oversight-of course) just as they do for all other human and cattle diseases.

Whether testing is 100% accurate or not, it would go a long way to shut the damn media up.
When have you heard from your buddy, Red River?

Got to love the way you can point fingers at other countries when talking about hiding things. Was the US not found hiding their first native case for 7 months and covering up the problem in the US? What kind of media blitz came from that? First BSE was non exsistant in the US but gee then came Phyllis. :roll:
And I don't think the Shoot, shovel and shut up is practiced in Canada nearly as much as it is in the US. Has there been documented cases of animals being slipped out the back doors of Canadian slaughter plants AFTER they are targeted for testing like there is in the US? I don't think so.
And if you want to shut the damn media up muzzle R-CALF and their lawyers. Wasn't their main reason for partnering up with "Consumer Groups" because they attract more media attention. Wasn't they court case filed because they felt no body was listening to them? :cry2: They have fed more damaging remarks to the media than anyone else. :x This maybe could have been a non issue in North America but we have to give R-CALF a hand for making sure it wasn't !!!! :clap: :roll:
And Yes honesty is the best policy so when are we going to see some honesty coming from the US INDUSTRY. :?
 

Sandhusker

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Tam, "Wasn't they court case filed because they felt no body was listening to them? "

No. The reason USDA was taken to court was because they put our entire industry at risk by ignoring the advice of the experts they themselves consulted and arbitrarily reversed established policy simply for the benefit of the US multi-national packers. The holy grail of "trade" was placed above the welfare of US producers. R-CALF was simply doing what any organization that truly represents US producers would do.
 

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