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Huckabee- Education Cheaper than Building Prisons

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While Huckabee was fundraising for his type of private Christian Schools- he is right with the basic idea- funding educations and colleges, schools and training centers is much cheaper than funding and operating prisons- and makes more taxpayers, instead of tax leechs and tax users....

But our current government/Administration can't even come up with a way to provide adequate loan money to students right now- while spending BILLIONS $ to build Iraqi schools.... :(

I heard GW is trying to get an Iraqi University named for him-- they're looking at calling it "DUH U"..... :wink: :lol: :lol:

Huckabee: Private school worth effort

By BECKY SHAY
Of The Gazette Staff

When Mike Huckabee was governor of Arkansas, he figured out that it is cheaper to pay for college tuition, room and board and books than it is to sentence a person to prison.

The choice, he told about 950 people at a Billings fundraiser Tuesday night, becomes how people want to invest their money: in a solid education or a tax bill.

"It's your money either way," Huckabee said at the Billings Christian Schools Spring Banquet.

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/04/30/news/local/27-huckabee.txt
 

Rambo

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There is plenty of loan money for college tuition. The problem is every time the feds increase the loan amount the colleges increase tuition. After helping two kids through college that is what i see anyway. The loan money they had offered would have put them in debt over $100,000 each.
 

Mike

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US student loan bill advances, Bush will sign
May 1, 2008

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate on Wednesday unanimously approved legislation aimed at stabilizing the student loan market and heading off what lenders warn could be a shortage of loans in coming months as millions of college students lock in their finances before heading to school.

The bill would temporarily allow the U.S. Education Department to inject liquidity into the secondary market for student loans, which seized up recently after investors were spooked by the subprime mortgage crisis.

The department would be empowered until mid-2009 to buy federally guaranteed loans that lenders are unable to sell as securitized debt. Many lenders depend on selling such debt to raise money for new loans.

The bill would also let the Education Department funnel capital for loans to state guaranty agencies under a "lender of last resort" program -- not only for students, but for entire colleges, if they face loan shortages from other sources.

The House of Representatives was expected to vote in favor of the bill, possibly as soon as Thursday. The White House said on Wednesday that President George W. Bush supports the legislation and will sign it.

Loan providers such as Sallie Mae (SLM.N: Quote, Profile, Research), Bank of America Corp (BAC.N: Quote, Profile, Research), Citigroup (C.N: Quote, Profile, Research), JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and many others in the $85-billion industry would be affected.

Sallie Mae said the bill would give the Education Department "at no cost to taxpayers, the flexibility to implement a comprehensive, equitable solution to the credit crunch in the student loan capital markets."

The company urged the Education Department to move as quickly to write regulations to implement the bill as Congress had in adopting it. Sallie Mae, known formally as SLM Corp, is the nation's largest student loans provider. Continued...
 

Mike

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If the Liberal Federal judges appointed down through the years had not outlawed prison labor, these prisoners would be much more productive and help pay their way through the prison system.

I remember a few years back when the State of Florida was proposing that prisoners separate burnable materials from garbage to provide fuel for an electrical power plant got shot down as "Cruel and Unusual Punishment".

The farm at a prison just closed down here because the prisoners no longer wanted to work. :roll: :roll:
 

backhoeboogie

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Rambo said:
There is plenty of loan money for college tuition. The problem is every time the feds increase the loan amount the colleges increase tuition. After helping two kids through college that is what i see anyway. The loan money they had offered would have put them in debt over $100,000 each.

Don't borrow money. Pay for it. Start planning for your grandchildren to go to college now. Tomorrow Now is an excellent method. It is much more painless than shelling out $22K a year like I did.
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
he is right with the basic idea- funding educations and colleges, schools and training centers is much cheaper than funding and operating prisons- and makes more taxpayers, instead of tax leechs and tax users....

You act as if we are a third world country that has no education system, that we have no schools or are like a country were women can not go to school.

I am not happy with our school system personally, but it is good enough to keep a person from killing and stealing. If they want to keep from building prisons, then parents need to be more active and quit letting everything be permissible in their children's life. Schools are not the problem with crime, lack of kids going to school and being made by their parents to achieve something is the problem, the schools are there, they just are not being put to proper use by the kids.
 

Rambo

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backhoeboogie said:
Rambo said:
There is plenty of loan money for college tuition. The problem is every time the feds increase the loan amount the colleges increase tuition. After helping two kids through college that is what i see anyway. The loan money they had offered would have put them in debt over $100,000 each.

Don't borrow money. Pay for it. Start planning for your grandchildren to go to college now. Tomorrow Now is an excellent method. It is much more painless than shelling out $22K a year like I did.

You are correct about borrowing money, if it can be done that way. We paid for our kids undergrad education, did take some of those zero interest loans though that we'll write a check for when they are due. We were getting more than zero return on some other ventures.
 

Texan

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Mike said:
If the Liberal Federal judges appointed down through the years had not outlawed prison labor, these prisoners would be much more productive and help pay their way through the prison system.

I remember a few years back when the State of Florida was proposing that prisoners separate burnable materials from garbage to provide fuel for an electrical power plant got shot down as "Cruel and Unusual Punishment".

The farm at a prison just closed down here because the prisoners no longer wanted to work. :roll: :roll:
That's a good point, Mike. Some of these prisoners are so freakin' fat they waddle instead of walk. Really psses you off to see them. They get off the streets, go to prison and get FAT. :x

I'd like to see the states make the sob's have to work for their meals. If they refuse to work, give them one meal per day consisting of sauerkraut and toast. The more they work, the more food they get.

Work for food is what the rest of us have to do. If it's good enough for me, it should be good enough for them.
 

aplusmnt

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Texan said:
Mike said:
If the Liberal Federal judges appointed down through the years had not outlawed prison labor, these prisoners would be much more productive and help pay their way through the prison system.

I remember a few years back when the State of Florida was proposing that prisoners separate burnable materials from garbage to provide fuel for an electrical power plant got shot down as "Cruel and Unusual Punishment".

The farm at a prison just closed down here because the prisoners no longer wanted to work. :roll: :roll:
That's a good point, Mike. Some of these prisoners are so freakin' fat they waddle instead of walk. Really psses you off to see them. They get off the streets, go to prison and get FAT. :x

I'd like to see the states make the sob's have to work for their meals. If they refuse to work, give them one meal per day consisting of sauerkraut and toast. The more they work, the more food they get.

Work for food is what the rest of us have to do. If it's good enough for me, it should be good enough for them.

Wasn't there a Texas sheriff or prison warden that made the prisoners sleep on army cots in a army tents and east army food? I liked his way of thinking. Make Prison a bad place to be.

I am for outsourcing our Prison to Siberia or Turkey. I bet they would do it for half the money and we would end up with half the prisons.
 

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