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Former presidential candidate and Fox News host Mike Huckabee tells Newsmax that Rick Santorum can make it all the way to the Republican presidential nomination — and says Rick Perry made an “incredibly bad blunder” in announcing that he was reassessing his campaign after the Iowa caucus.

Huckabee also warns Republicans that President Obama will launch a “vicious campaign” in his battle for re-election, but “the best weapon we have against Obama is Obama.”

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/huckabee-santorum-romney-obama/2012/01/05/id/423194?s=al&promo_code=DDC8-1
 

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tumbleweed_texn said:
With Santorum's stance on animal rights and gun control, I know of one vote he'll not be getting.

Tex

Even if he has a not so great stance on these issue it can in no way in heII be any worse than the obama regime so it it comes down to the two in the election it will be awful easy to pull the lever for Santorum.

Especially when you figure the past two presidents. Bush was no great president but he did do the country a favor in his SC nominations as compared to obama who is a worse president and then his complete trash for the SC
 

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Here is one of the articles that I found on his gun-rights beliefs.

http://www.awareandprepare.com/does-rick-santorum-support-gun-control/

he didnt even fill out and turn in a gun-rights survey for the republican candidates. Why would any liberty loving republican not want the voters to know his stance on important indvidual liberty issues unless he knew they wouldnt appreciate his views?

Being a rancher I will not support anyone who is recieving campaign contributions from animal rights groups. We've just barely got horse slaughter back. How hard would it be for him to enact a federal ban rather than just not provide funding?

Nope, I can guarantee you that if it comes down him or O, we will be voting third party. Yeah, it will probably mean O gets back in there, but I for one am tired of the repubs sending out lackluster candidates who are really nothing more than libs in conservative clothing. And the people in the race who arent libs at heart have no chance of winning. So what do you do? I will not keep.supporting them when they continue to go against my beliefs. Just because they have a big "R" in front of their name does not in any way mean that they can be trusted to do what is right.

Tex
 

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I dont remember your name being mentioned in the article Larry. Also that was just one article that has been pointed put to me. All I am saying is the man is very weak on issues that I considdr important. I already know what O's stances are on issues and no I dont wanna see him get four more years. But I will not vote for a republican candidate who I feel is as much threat to my lifestyle and beliefs as what our current leader is just because he has an R in front of his name.

Personally, I think a few more years of O may just do this country some good. Let him go ahead and drive us into another depression and all that that entails. Maybe if people have to really start worrying about important things such as food, shelter, fuel and shelter they will pull their heads out and quit putting these socialist in power. Things are going to have to get alot worse before people quit putting up with government encroachment into their personal lives and business. As it is, people have had it too easy for too long and everyone is scared to rock the boat.

Tex
 

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tumbleweed_texn said:
I dont remember your name being mentioned in the article Larry. Also that was just one article that has been pointed put to me. All I am saying is the man is very weak on issues that I considdr important. I already know what O's stances are on issues and no I dont wanna see him get four more years. But I will not vote for a republican candidate who I feel is as much threat to my lifestyle and beliefs as what our current leader is just because he has an R in front of his name.

Personally, I think a few more years of O may just do this country some good. Let him go ahead and drive us into another depression and all that that entails. Maybe if people have to really start worrying about important things such as food, shelter, fuel and shelter they will pull their heads out and quit putting these socialist in power. Things are going to have to get alot worse before people quit putting up with government encroachment into their personal lives and business. As it is, people have had it too easy for too long and everyone is scared to rock the boat.

Tex

I found this after asking the question...


Here is Santorum discussing some of his his beliefs on gun rights....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S2HN_Z-dww&feature=player_embedded

Rick Santorum is in support of the constitutional amendment that gives citizens the right to bear arms. Santorum as senator voted yes on a bill that bans lawsuits against gun manufacturers in 2005. He also introduced a bill called the sportsman privacy protection act which would prohibit the government from collecting the social security numbers of gun owners when people sign up for gun licenses.


If you go to the link they have videos on most of the Repub. Candidates discussing their views on the issues

http://republican2012.org/issues/162-rick-santorum-on-the-issues.html
 

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tumbleweed_texn said:
I dont remember your name being mentioned in the article Larry. Also that was just one article that has been pointed put to me. All I am saying is the man is very weak on issues that I considdr important. I already know what O's stances are on issues and no I dont wanna see him get four more years. But I will not vote for a republican candidate who I feel is as much threat to my lifestyle and beliefs as what our current leader is just because he has an R in front of his name.

Personally, I think a few more years of O may just do this country some good. Let him go ahead and drive us into another depression and all that that entails. Maybe if people have to really start worrying about important things such as food, shelter, fuel and shelter they will pull their heads out and quit putting these socialist in power. Things are going to have to get alot worse before people quit putting up with government encroachment into their personal lives and business. As it is, people have had it too easy for too long and everyone is scared to rock the boat.

Tex

I didn't say anyone mentioned me. You said Santorum didn't fill out a questionaire. Just because he did't fill out the questions doesn't in any way say he is against the 2nd. There could be underlying reason not to answer
 

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I'll agree with that Larry. There may very well be a reason for his declining to participate. But with the dishonesty and deception coming out of Washington these days, I tend to look upon something like this as trying to hide something.

I realize that Santorum may not be as bad as some others, but I have to go with my gut on this. Several years ago he tried to get legislation passed that would have stripped a person gun-rights away for life if they were to spank their child. I do not condone child abuse in any way shape or form, but I believe the effects of lack of discipline can be just as abusive. I dont believe the government has any business in a persons home telling them how to raise their children.

Gun-rights aside, just the fact that he supports the animal rights groups such as PETA and the HSUS and they support him is enough to scare the hell out of me. I cant support anyone who has already shown potential to further regulate my business and way of life.

Tex
 

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Larrry said:
tumbleweed_texn said:
I dont remember your name being mentioned in the article Larry. Also that was just one article that has been pointed put to me. All I am saying is the man is very weak on issues that I considdr important. I already know what O's stances are on issues and no I dont wanna see him get four more years. But I will not vote for a republican candidate who I feel is as much threat to my lifestyle and beliefs as what our current leader is just because he has an R in front of his name.

Personally, I think a few more years of O may just do this country some good. Let him go ahead and drive us into another depression and all that that entails. Maybe if people have to really start worrying about important things such as food, shelter, fuel and shelter they will pull their heads out and quit putting these socialist in power. Things are going to have to get alot worse before people quit putting up with government encroachment into their personal lives and business. As it is, people have had it too easy for too long and everyone is scared to rock the boat.

Tex

I didn't say anyone mentioned me. You said Santorum didn't fill out a questionaire. Just because he did't fill out the questions doesn't in any way say he is against the 2nd. There could be underlying reason not to answer


Newt was also late sending his in and Perry and Romney have also not sent one in yet.....


Washington, DC --(Ammoland.com)- Gun Owners of America has sent a Second Amendment Questionnaire to every Presidential candidate for this election year.

http://www.ammoland.com/2011/12/22/why-hasnt-rick-perry-filled-out-his-second-amendment-questionnaire/




I guess it pays to do a little further research than just believing what the media spin is.......

“He [Rick Santorum] was the most effective advocate of bringing it [legislation to protect gun companies from frivolous lawsuits] to the floor and getting a vote scheduled. He used his influence to get it to the floor. Without that, we would have lost every American gun company.”
– Wayne LaPierre, CEO – National Rifle Association, October 25, 2006

“On behalf of NRA members across the country, I want to thank Senator Rick Santorum for his support of the hunters and fishermen, and his work to preserve our country’s strong outdoor traditions.”
– Chris Cox, Executive Director – NRA-ILA, February 7, 2006


http://www.ricksantorum.com/defending-2nd-amendment-rights



NRA PVF Ratings:


A+ Rick Perry (2010 election for Texas Governor)

A+ Rick Santorum (2006 election for Pennsylvania US Senate)

A- Ron Paul (2010 election for US House of Representatives)

B Mitt Romney (2002 election for Massachusetts Governor - prior to signing 2004 AW Ban)

Newt Gingrich - I can't find the ratings on Gingrich since the archive only goes back to 2002 and he last ran for office in 1998 but rest assured that Newt Gingrich is a big government progressive with plenty of Gun Rights issues to be concerned about.

http://www.nrapvf.org/grades-endorsements.aspx


and a differing opinion....


Top 2 Iowa frontrunners no better than 'Obama Light' on guns

Santorum's rise (along with Representative Michelle Bachmann's exit, and Governor Rick Perry's "reassessment" of his campaign) apparently casts him as the GOP's "conservative" challenger to Romney. And gun rights advocates hoping to replace the Obama administration with one far friendlier to gun rights are certainly justified in casting about for an alternative to Romney, who moved from anti-gun extremism when he was governor of Massachusetts, to tepid (at best) "Second Amendment supporter," when that shift became politically expedient. If political expediency demands yet another shift, right back to forcible citizen disarmament extremism, Romney can be counted on to bravely forget he ever retreated from statements of his like this one:

But is Santorum the answer for gun owners?

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-st-louis/top-2-iowa-frontrunners-no-better-than-obama-light-on-guns
 
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Hypocrit- since you are researching Santorum-- and since Santorum was the Senator that topped the list for taking money from Lobbyiests in 2006-- why don't you check out how much the NRA and pro gun lobby had to funnel into his pockets to get those votes ?
 

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Oldtimer said:
Hypocrit- since you are researching Santorum-- and since Santorum was the Senator that topped the list for taking money from Lobbyiests in 2006-- why don't you check out how much the NRA and pro gun lobby had to funnel into his pockets to get those votes ?


Haven't found any mention of them yet, but still looking......



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the candidate's seven guns and his wife's concealed carry permit,

Santorum position on Gun Control

Santorum is a firm advocate of a citizen’s right to bear arms. He is also a staunch defender of gun manufacturers, and voted in favor of the 2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (Bill S 397), which among others, prevents civil suits from being brought against gun manufacturers for criminal acts perpetrated using their weapons.

Voted YES on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Voted NO on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted YES on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted YES on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Rick_Santorum_Gun_Control.htm


Senate candidate showcases NRA endorsement
Wednesday, October 25, 2006
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06298/732722-177.stm

it seems in 2006 Santorum was A rated by the NRA and they endorsed his campaign

most of the bills cited in the article are crime bills.. and most conservatives who are tough on crime voted fro the same bills..

sadly the liberals have twisted the "intent" of the bills and used them to strip away 2nd amendment rights..

compared to Obama, he is a gun wielding fanatic...

you actually have to dig to find out the facts as the internet is getting bombarded with all the negative articles ever written on the republican candidates..
 

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Forgot to ask OT, is your theory that Lobbyests give to the sure thing? so you'd agree that the Gun Lobbying group gave the most to the individual they knew would support gun rights, correct? :lol: :lol:


Too bad the "sure thing" lost, eh?
 

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Steve you are going to have to dig a little deeper than the first link that google lists. I saw that also and then I took into account who's link it is.

Look folks, I'm not telling anyone how to vote. I'm just saying that I prefer a conservative candidate and I truely dont feel like Santorum is the right choice. I believe that in order to get a true read on his positions that one is better off voing to a third party for information. I sure as hell wont take as gospel what I read on his or a republican sponsored site. And I dont believe a liberal site will give a good reading on his views either.

To be honest, it really doesnt matter who gets the nod from the republicans this go 'round. Unless something major happens to change our minds, we are voting third party regardless. There isnt a person on the republican ballot who doesnt have what I consider major flaws. Everyone of them supports or doesnt support something I consider to be of utmost importance either to this country's well being or the well being of the citizens. If enough people would quit voting R just because they arent as bad as what we already have, and vote third party, the republicans will quit sending us a bunch of loons or liberal compromises. As long as we keep voting for whatever they send us, they are going to keep sending us junk. And yes a third party vote is essentially a wasted vote, but how else will things change if we dont do it ourselves?

Tex
 
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Forgot to ask OT, is your theory that Lobbyests give to the sure thing? so you'd agree that the Gun Lobbying group gave the most to the individual they knew would support gun rights, correct? :lol: :lol:


Too bad the "sure thing" lost, eh?

Or the Senator that will do anything for a Buck...I remember when Abramoff was talking about his dealings with our former Senator Conman Burns- and essentially said Burns was good for supporting any issue if the dollars in his pockets was big enough...

Burns was #3 on the most total money taken from Lobbyiests in 2006...Santorum topped the list.. :???:
 

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hypocritexposer said:
Forgot to ask OT, is your theory that Lobbyests give to the sure thing? so you'd agree that the Gun Lobbying group gave the most to the individual they knew would support gun rights, correct? :lol: :lol:


Too bad the "sure thing" lost, eh?

Or the Senator that will do anything for a Buck...I remember when Abramoff was talking about his dealings with our former Senator Conman Burns- and essentially said Burns was good for supporting any issue if the dollars in his pockets was big enough...

Burns was #3 on the most total money taken from Lobbyiests in 2006...Santorum topped the list.. :???:


Why don't you provide those numbers for everybody?
 

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Forgot to ask OT, is your theory that Lobbyests give to the sure thing? so you'd agree that the Gun Lobbying group gave the most to the individual they knew would support gun rights, correct? :lol: :lol:


Too bad the "sure thing" lost, eh?

Or the Senator that will do anything for a Buck...I remember when Abramoff was talking about his dealings with our former Senator Conman Burns- and essentially said Burns was good for supporting any issue if the dollars in his pockets was big enough...

Burns was #3 on the most total money taken from Lobbyiests in 2006...Santorum topped the list.. :???:




Here OT, I'll help you out a bit



Here is a list of the Lobbyests that donated to Santorum in 2006 (Most of these have lobbyests that work for them, but the red arrow is for direct lobbyest donations)

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and here is another list that adds up to more in donations, Guess who belongs to this list?


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