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Huckabee: Today a Finance 101 Lesson for Obama

Faster horses

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Mike Huckabee

Today, a Finance 101 lesson for the President…President Obama accused Republicans of risking default if they don’t raise the debt ceiling.

He should be trying to calm markets and reassure our creditors, not panic them. That was worse than irresponsible, it was just wrong. True, Washington spends more than it brings in. That’s why we need a good credit rating. But Washington brings in $3 trillion a year. The interest on the debt is about $416 billion. That’s outrageous, but it’s still just one-seventh of Washington’s income. God knows, they weren’t planning to pay down the principal. So all it takes to prevent default is to pay the interest. We have more than enough income to cover it, and since the law requires us to pay that first, it will be paid. Voila! No default. So maybe now, the leaders of both parties can take a timeout to think about how they brought America to the point that it’s easy to believe our economy would collapse if we couldn’t borrow another trillion dollars by Tuesday.
 

TSR

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Let's see in Huckabee's topic sentence (the first sentence) its all about Pres. Obama's shortfall. But in his last sentence he speaks about the leaders of both parties and their shortcomings. Maybe he should have combined the two- yeah that would have been "fair and balanced" imo.
I will say I really enjoyed Huckabee's remarks at George Jones funeral.
 

hypocritexposer

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TSR said:
Let's see in Huckabee's topic sentence (the first sentence) its all about Pres. Obama's shortfall. But in his last sentence he speaks about the leaders of both parties and their shortcomings. Maybe he should have combined the two- yeah that would have been "fair and balanced" imo.
I will say I really enjoyed Huckabee's remarks at George Jones funeral.

the point towards obama is that he has been out campaigning and telling lies about the debt ceiling.

He's either lying or is stupid. Which one is it?

"The debt ceiling is there for a purpose. It's like the smoke alarm," said House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas. "Democrats want to unplug the smoke alarm, and Republicans want to go out and fight the fire."
 

Steve

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the bulk of his comment was on the tactic of scaremongering over the default and how it was not true..

the conservatives have acted over and over to pass different plans..

they went multiple times and softened the demands.. to the point there was no demand in the last bill.. .

Obama REJECTS: GOP Surrender Doesn’t Go Far Enough

President Obama used his weekly radio address to reject the latest offer from House Republicans to end the fiscal stalemate. The outline of their proposal was released Friday and would have reopened government through December and lifted the debt ceiling for six weeks.

what a jerk.. suggest something and then reject it when it is offered..

House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt AND Reopen Government

The revised GOP plan reflects the demands Obama made in a meeting with House GOP Leaders on Thursday. It also reflects the unwillingness of the DC GOP to face a fiscal showdown with Democrats.

Aside from reopening the government and agreeing to raise America's debt over the current $16.7 trillion limit, the Republicans made several other concession to President Obama and the Democrats.

In addition, some of the across-the-board "sequester" cuts would be reversed under the GOP plan.

In exchange for meeting, at least momentarily, all of Obama's demands, the House GOP is seeking a "framework" for future negotiations on addressing longer-term budget issues.

After such a swift capitulation on the current impasse, how likely is it that the GOP will be able to extract meaningful reforms during yet another round of budget talks? House Leadership has already shown that, when nearing an actual deadline, it will cave while extracting very few concessions.

and then Obama rejects the surrender.. again.. the only reason the government is shut down today is because of the liberals.. who think it is a game to show who can be the biggest @$$ and make the Americans suffer,.. and the liberals are winning.
 

TSR

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According to the talksters on various stations the President would not agree to an opening up of the government til December just to go through the same scenario again in the middle of the holiday shopping season. Not a very good time to go into recession while debating.

Even Charles Krauthammer (sp) a critic of Obama's from the beginning of his presidency acknowledged this morning that the Republicans are bearing the blame for the shutdown something to the tune of 78% according to an NBC/WSJ poll.
 

Faster horses

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TSR said:
According to the talksters on various stations the President would not agree to an opening up of the government til December just to go through the same scenario again in the middle of the holiday shopping season. Not a very good time to go into recession while debating.

Even Charles Krauthammer (sp) a critic of Obama's from the beginning of his presidency acknowledged this morning that the Republicans are bearing the blame for the shutdown something to the tune of 78% according to an NBC/WSJ poll.

Being popular isn't always right, being right isn't always popular.

We already know about polls.

It's hard to negotiate with a master manipulator. And Obama always has the MSM
on his side, so sure, the Republicans are bearing the blame. It's all in perception and the MSM makes sure how the perception is perceived. For some reason, it's in their best interest. :???: :x
 

Steve

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According to the talksters on various stations the President would not agree to an opening up of the government til December just to go through the same scenario again in the middle of the holiday shopping season. Not a very good time to go into recession while debating.

I realize the media doesn't tell you that just days before,... it was his idea.. and the conservatives were reluctant to go along with it..

so why even suggest it if he was not going to agree to it..

President Obama, Democrats Split on Strategy;

Senate Democrats want to increase the nation's borrowing authority for more than a year, taking Congress through the mid-term election.

Obama seemed to undercut them Tuesday afternoon when he said he could support a short-term legislation to fund government and raise the debt limit.

Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), on Tuesday said he is not interested in a short-term deal.

and yet the jac--- said it wasn't acceptable when the conservatives conceded .. and surrendered sending up a short term deal with no strings attached..
 

iwannabeacowboy

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TSR said:
According to the talksters on various stations the President would not agree to an opening up of the government til December just to go through the same scenario again in the middle of the holiday shopping season. Not a very good time to go into recession while debating.

Even Charles Krauthammer (sp) a critic of Obama's from the beginning of his presidency acknowledged this morning that the Republicans are bearing the blame for the shutdown something to the tune of 78% according to an NBC/WSJ poll.

Keep trying with the, so and so agrees that they are "bearing the blame".

They are doing what they were sent there to do. Represent the people of their states.

And "bearing the blame" and actually being the cause are complete different. Go get some more talking points and come back.
 

TSR

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iwannabeacowboy said:
TSR said:
According to the talksters on various stations the President would not agree to an opening up of the government til December just to go through the same scenario again in the middle of the holiday shopping season. Not a very good time to go into recession while debating.

Even Charles Krauthammer (sp) a critic of Obama's from the beginning of his presidency acknowledged this morning that the Republicans are bearing the blame for the shutdown something to the tune of 78% according to an NBC/WSJ poll.

Keep trying with the, so and so agrees that they are "bearing the blame".

They are doing what they were sent there to do. Represent the people of their states.

And "bearing the blame" and actually being the cause are complete different. Go get some more talking points and come back.

I'm just repeating what solid conservatives are saying like Krauthammer don't get mad at me--I won't sleep well tonight. The WSJ I hope you know is not liberal in its views by any means.
Interesting how the unfunding of the ACA has dropped by the wayside for most Rep's except Cruz who has been disowned by a lot of his party's members.
With respect to bearing the blame and being the cause being different, well I guess you need to get on FOX and tell the majority of those being polled that in detail. I know, I know, stupid public. yeah right!
 

hypocritexposer

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Same poll

And 46 percent of respondents say the president, during this budget standoff, has been a strong leader and is standing up for what he believes in, versus 51 percent who believe he’s putting his own political agenda ahead of what’s good for the country.

By a 43-percent-to-40 percent margin, the public disagrees with Obama’s position that he will not negotiate with the Republicans until they reopen government and raise the debt ceiling.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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TSR said:
iwannabeacowboy said:
TSR said:
According to the talksters on various stations the President would not agree to an opening up of the government til December just to go through the same scenario again in the middle of the holiday shopping season. Not a very good time to go into recession while debating.

Even Charles Krauthammer (sp) a critic of Obama's from the beginning of his presidency acknowledged this morning that the Republicans are bearing the blame for the shutdown something to the tune of 78% according to an NBC/WSJ poll.

Keep trying with the, so and so agrees that they are "bearing the blame".

They are doing what they were sent there to do. Represent the people of their states.

And "bearing the blame" and actually being the cause are complete different. Go get some more talking points and come back.

I'm just repeating what solid conservatives are saying like Krauthammer don't get mad at me--I won't sleep well tonight. The WSJ I hope you know is not liberal in its views by any means.
Interesting how the unfunding of the ACA has dropped by the wayside for most Rep's except Cruz who has been disowned by a lot of his party's members.
With respect to bearing the blame and being the cause being different, well I guess you need to get on FOX and tell the majority of those being polled that in detail. I know, I know, stupid public. yeah right!

McCain is not in the same party as Cruz. Rhinos are not in the same party. They belong in the bureaucratic party of big government just like the libs. The party of central government. Sorry, but real conservatives don't count them.

And you still don't get that being the cause is different from bearing the blame. You apparently did not have any siblings growing up. The person that gets blamed is often not the individual that performed the act.

Who had the vote to accept, decline or discuss the House's proposal. Knowing that, Does (using your words) "shutting the government down" (which we know it is not shut down), give Barry more power or less?

hmmmmm? That is something to ponder. Harry, just handed Barry the ability to pick and choose who to fund and who to hurt. Seems like a lot of power taken from Congress and handed to the king again.
 

TSR

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The name I mentioned was Krauthammer (sp) I didn't mention McCain. McCain the guy who chose Palin for his running mate, why would I mention him?? :lol:

Being the cause is different than bearing the blame????Could be in some scenarios. Why didn't Boehner bring up a clean CR vote in the house as he was challenged to do by a Dem. senator?? He said it wouldn't pass. Well he's always talking about his concern of the American people, put it to a vote in the House. Show everyone it won't pass. He's lost control to a minority in his party. Afterall, they wasted 45 votes on the ACA but he won't have one on a clean Continuing Resolution. Having said all this, I'm an Independent, there are things both parties do I don't like.
 

Mike

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Why would he bring up a "Clean" CR?

That would be stupidity on his part to throw away his bargaining chip. :roll:
 

TSR

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That's the primary reason why the poll I mentioned showed the majority blamed the Republicans for the shutdown.
 

hypocritexposer

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TSR said:
That's the primary reason why the poll I mentioned showed the majority blamed the Republicans for the shutdown.

And why the majority blame the Democratic Senate and obama for passing obamascare. they slipped it in, attached to another bill.

wait until they find out what's in it.

A clean CR :lol: What a bunch of hypocrites.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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TSR said:
The name I mentioned was Krauthammer (sp) I didn't mention McCain. McCain the guy who chose Palin for his running mate, why would I mention him?? :lol:

Being the cause is different than bearing the blame????Could be in some scenarios. Why didn't Boehner bring up a clean CR vote in the house as he was challenged to do by a Dem. senator?? He said it wouldn't pass. Well he's always talking about his concern of the American people, put it to a vote in the House. Show everyone it won't pass. He's lost control to a minority in his party. Afterall, they wasted 45 votes on the ACA but he won't have one on a clean Continuing Resolution. Having said all this, I'm an Independent, there are things both parties do I don't like.

Your lack of reading comprehension seriously wears me out. It is even what you, yourself jotted down.

Interesting how the unfunding of the ACA has dropped by the wayside for most Rep's except Cruz who has been disowned by a lot of his party's members.

Not that it is even relevant, but I think I now understand where your difficulty grasping the big picture is coming from.
 
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