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Can he win? Will his nomation kill Republican's chances? And you "socal conservatives" can just sit down and shut up. :lol:

Is Mike Huckabee the new Howard Dean?

That's what one prominent conservative thinks, and he's warning his fellow Republicans not to nominate the former Arkansas governor.

Rich Lowry, an editor of the conservative publication the National Review (which endorsed rival Mitt Romney this week), writes on the Republican Web site Townhall.com Friday that nominating Huckabee would amount to "an act of suicide" for the party.

"Like Dean, Huckabee is an under-vetted former governor who is manifestly unprepared to be president of the United States," Lowry writes. "Like Dean, he is rising toward the top of polls in a crowded field based on his appeal to a particular niche of his party."

"As with Dean, his vulnerabilities in a general election are so screamingly obvious that it's hard to believe that primary voters, once they focus seriously on their choice, will nominate him," he adds.

Huckabee, an ordained Baptist minister, has gained ground in several key primary states largely due to his appeal to Republican evangelical voters. Recent polls have suggested he now holds a double-digit lead over Romney in Iowa, and is in front of Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson in South Carolina.

And in the latest sign Huckabee's campaign is gaining serious momentum, veteran GOP strategist Ed Rollins — the architect of Ronald Reagan's 1984 landslide re-election victory — has signed on to help manage the operation.

Not so fast, says Lowry. According to the conservative commentator, nominating a Baptist minister would turn one of the party's assets — its message of social conservatism — into a liability.

"[A] Baptist pastor running on his religiosity would be rather overdoing it," he wrote. "Social conservatism has to be part of the Republican message, but it can't be the message in its entirety."

In response to Lowry's column, campaign manager Chip Saltsman defended Huckabee's electability and record as governor.

"Rich Lowry should know that four of the past five U.S. presidents have been governors, and all but Ronald Reagan were from the South," Saltsman said. "Mike Huckabee's candidacy is picking up steam because his optimistic, conservative message is resonating with voters who are looking for a leader with vision and experience. He has been elected four times for statewide office, twice as governor, in a Democratic-state because he places a premium on results, and that's what the American people are looking for."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
 
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"Rich Lowry should know that four of the past five U.S. presidents have been governors, and all but Ronald Reagan were from the South," Saltsman said. "Mike Huckabee's candidacy is picking up steam because his optimistic, conservative message is resonating with voters who are looking for a leader with vision and experience. He has been elected four times for statewide office, twice as governor, in a Democratic-state because he places a premium on results, and that's what the American people are looking for."

And thats supposed to be a positive for Huckleberry :???: Look what electing the last 2 southern governors got us :shock: I'm not sure the voters think our country could survive another Texan good old boy or Arkansas ex-governor....... :( :(
 

Texan

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Romney: Huckabee Critique Un-Republican

By JIM KUHNHENN – 44 minutes ago

HUMBOLDT, Iowa (AP) — Mitt Romney accused Republican presidential rival Mike Huckabee of "running from the wrong party" for criticizing President Bush's foreign policy as an "arrogant bunker mentality."

Romney defended Bush against Huckabee's charge, which the former Arkansas governor leveled in the January-February issue of the respected journal Foreign Affairs.

"I can't believe he'd say that. I'm afraid he's running from the wrong party," Romney said to a gathering of about 100 supporters in a restaurant here. "I had to look again — did this come from Barack Obama or from Hillary Clinton? Did it come from John Edwards? No, it was Governor Huckabee."

In Littleton, N.H., on Saturday, Huckabee responded: "Of all the people who have called me ... a Democrat, that really doesn't bug me a whole bunch because I know my record. I know how consistent I've been as a Republican, as a conservative."

Huckabee said people are misinterpreting his foreign policy comments.

"It was not intended, as some have characterized it, as a slam," he said. "It was an evaluation of how we can improve I think everybody believes that every president should improve on the administration that's before it, regardless of party."

Romney has been aggressively criticizing Huckabee, stressing differences over immigration and economic policy in hopes of recapturing a lead he had enjoyed in Iowa for most of the year. Huckabee's Foreign Affairs article, made public Friday, offered another line of attack.

"I'm the last person to say that this administration is subject to an arrogant, bunker mentality that is counterproductive here and abroad," he said, quoting Huckabee's phrasing. "The truth of the matter is this president has kept us safe these past six years and that has not been easy to do."

Romney endorsed the interrogation practices employed against suspected terrorists, specifically singling out Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. U.S. officials have acknowledged that he has been the subject of harsh interrogation techniques.

"When he was captured he said, 'I'll see you in New York with my lawyer.'" Romney said. "Can you imagine? I'm sure he was thinking an ACLU lawyer would be provided at government expense. That's not what happened. Instead he saw GIs and CIA interrogators in Guantanamo, just like it ought to be."

Still, Romney carefully stressed that he believed the administration had engaged in missteps during the war in Iraq and said his defense of Bush did not mean he would follow the president's current policy to the letter.

"We were under-prepared and under-planned and understaffed," he said of the war following the fall of Saddam Hussein. "There is no question we weren't perfectly managed."

Romney would not go as far as suggesting that Huckabee's written views indicated he was not ready for the presidency, turning aside a reporter's question by saying "I'm going to let other people make that assessment."

But Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the article "suggests that he does lack depth when it comes to dealing with other nations."

Romney's new line of attack presented the former Massachusetts governor with a delicate balancing act. Bush's administration is generally ignored as a topic by the Republican presidential candidates, who prefer to present themselves as agents of change and new vision.

But Republicans appear to be on safer ground when it comes to praising Bush's current handling of the war.

An Associated Press-Ipsos poll showed a nearly even division over whether Bush's troop increase this year has helped stabilize Iraq. Fifty percent said no and 47 percent yes. A majority — 52 percent — also said the U.S. is making progress in Iraq.

"Today," Romney said Saturday, "we're making great progress with the surge and it's working."

Associated Press writer Philip Elliott in Littleton, N.H., contributed to this story.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h6z4xoMhUf2OoSdH533PshwbTtlAD8TI84880
 

Texan

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Oldtimer said:
"Rich Lowry should know that four of the past five U.S. presidents have been governors, and all but Ronald Reagan were from the South," Saltsman said. "Mike Huckabee's candidacy is picking up steam because his optimistic, conservative message is resonating with voters who are looking for a leader with vision and experience. He has been elected four times for statewide office, twice as governor, in a Democratic-state because he places a premium on results, and that's what the American people are looking for."

And thats supposed to be a positive for Huckleberry :???: Look what electing the last 2 southern governors got us :shock: I'm not sure the voters think our country could survive another Texan good old boy or Arkansas ex-governor....... :( :(
I think you're probably right about that, OT. I expect the country is tired of southern governors.
 

MoGal

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Sounds more like he's a huckster, not a huckleberry....

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071127.html

Robert Novak recently wrote a column about Mike Huckabee entitled, "The False Conservative." In the column he said, "Huckabee is campaigning as a conservative, but serious Republicans know that he is a high-tax, protectionist, big-government advocate of a strong hand in the Oval Office directing the lives of Americans."

Novak also said, "There is no doubt about Huckabee's record during a decade in Little Rock as governor. . . He increased the Arkansas tax burden by 47 percent, boosting the levies on gasoline and cigarettes."

Novak continued saying, "Quin Hillyer, a former Arkansas journalist writing in the conservative American Spectator, called Huckabee 'a guy with a thin skin, a nasty vindictive streak.' Huckabee's retort was to attack Hillyer's journalistic procedures, fitting a mean-spirited image when he responds to conservative criticism."

Calling Huckabee a proponent of big-government is an understatement. "If you listen closely, all the things he supports increase the size, power and cost of government. From subsidies for energy research to increasing money for health care and government housing, the size, power, and cost of government will not shrink under a President Mike Huckabee; they will increase . . . Mr. Huckabee swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution when he became governor, yet many of his proposals are clearly unconstitutional." (Source: David Ulrich, Letter of the Week, World Net Daily, 10/26/07)

In addition, Dr. Jerome Corsi reports that "Financial inducements arranged by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee to establish a Mexican consular office in Little Rock may have violated state law, according to an Arkansas attorney."

Writing for World Net Daily, Dr. Corsi exposed the fact that Mike Huckabee "worked with some of the state's most prominent and politically powerful businesses to establish the [Mexican] consulate as a magnet for drawing illegal immigrants to the state to accept low-paying jobs."

Corsi goes on to report that "Arkansas attorney Chip Sexton provided WND a written legal brief arguing the state government's sublease to Mexico of office space for the consulate was illegal under Arkansas law. Sexton contended the deal raised questions about the appropriateness of private citizens and corporations in Arkansas providing financial incentives for the government of Mexico to locate a consulate office in Little Rock."

Corsi also writes that "Robert Trevino, commissioner of Arkansas Rehabilitation Services, told WND he and Huckabee helped arrange state and private financial support to induce Mexico to establish the consulate as a business development 'quid pro quo.'

"Trevino signed on July 7, 2006, a 'Facilities Use Agreement' with Mexican consular officials to rent state government office space for $1 a year on the second floor of the Arkansas Rehabilitation Services building at 26 Corporate Hills in Little Rock."

According to Sexton, not only did subleasing state government offices to Mexico violate Arkansas state law under Ark. Code Ann. 22-2-114(C)(i) which provides: "After July 1, 1975, no state agency shall enter into or renew or otherwise negotiate a lease between itself as lessor or lessee and a nongovernmental or other government lessor or lessee," but it was even more offensive in that "there was nothing in the lease or other agreements that would have prevented the Mexican consulate from providing legal assistance to illegal aliens."

In addition, Corsi also exposed the fact that Mike Huckabee worked with Mexican President Vicente Fox to help provide cheap Mexican labor for Tyson foods and other large Arkansas corporations. According to Corsi, "Trevino confirmed he was state director of the League of United Latin American Citizens, also known as LULAC, an activist group strongly advocating for the rights of Hispanic immigrants in the U.S., when on Oct. 3, 2003, he accompanied Huckabee in a state airplane to visit [President Vicente] Fox in Mexico."

There is more.

The American Spectator reported that "Fourteen times, the ethics commission--a respected body, not a partisan witch-hunt group--investigated claims against Huckabee. Five of those times, it officially reprimanded him. And as only MSNBC among the big national media has reported at an real length, there were lots of other mini-scandals and embarrassments along the way."

Plus, writing for The Washington Times, Greg Pierce quoted Hillyer as saying, "[Huckabee] used public money for family restaurant meals, boat expenses, and other personal uses. He tried to claim as his own some $70,000 of furniture donated to the governor's mansion. He repeatedly, and obstinately, against the pleadings even from conservative columnists and editorials, refused to divulge the names of donors to a 'charitable' organization he set up while lieutenant governor--an outfit whose main charitable purpose seemed to be to pay Huckabee to make speeches. Then, as a kicker, he misreported the income itself from the suspicious 'charity.'"

Mike Huckabee's beliefs and actions even border on the bizarre. According to David Keene, Chairman of the American Conservative Union, "GOP presidential wannabe Mike Huckabee suggested that as president he would, for the good of the people, support a federal anti-smoking law. You see, as governor, Huckabee supported such laws because, well, he doesn't like smoking and doesn't think folks should indulge in so heath-threatening an activity. If he could move on up to the presidency, he would continue his abolitionist crusade at the national level without giving much, if any, thought to the question of whether the Constitution or anything else would legitimize a federal ban on smoking."

I have yet one more word of warning for those evangelicals supporting Huckabee because he is pro-life: Mike Huckabee will most definitely support Rudy Giuliani should Giuliani obtain the Republican nomination. Count on it.

I ask you, how could a committed "pro-life" conservative support a pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control liberal such as Rudy Giuliani? He couldn't.
 

Goodpasture

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That would be the same Novak that committed treason when he outed a CIA undercover operative at the request of Cheney? LOTS of credibility there....... :roll:
 
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Scouring the country-the Republican Party finally found in southern Louisiana, a true Conservative that was willing to run for President, Bubba Billybob Boudreaux.....
But then they found out he was a Blue Dog Democrat...
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Giving up on finding a true Republican Conservative candidate, they began searching for just an Honest one, with less skeletons in his closet than the current cadre of candidates ....
In Detroit they found their boy-- DeShawn Antoni Jones-- who showed more honesty than any of the candidates- and has small business experience with no stack of nasty divorces in his past-- altho he'll admit to having fathered children with Latonya, T'Keya, Ebony, Imani, and Clarice--but has been working hard and has kept these ladies well employed to pay the costs of raising these children- altho GW's globalist economy has times getting tough and as you can see, its getting harder to find ways to pay the rent money on the crib and buy gas for the caddy.....
 

Texan

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Goodpasture said:
That would be the same Novak that committed treason when he outed a CIA undercover operative at the request of Cheney? LOTS of credibility there....... :roll:
It's quite debatable as to whether or not she was an undercover operative. If she WAS, she sure as hell didn't mind telling everybody in Washington about it herself. :lol:

Do you have any evidence that Novak's column was done at the request of the Vice-President? Was that in the grand jury testimony and I just missed it?
 
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Texan said:
Goodpasture said:
That would be the same Novak that committed treason when he outed a CIA undercover operative at the request of Cheney? LOTS of credibility there....... :roll:
It's quite debatable as to whether or not she was an undercover operative. If she WAS, she sure as hell didn't mind telling everybody in Washington about it herself. :lol:

Do you have any evidence that Novak's column was done at the request of the Vice-President? Was that in the grand jury testimony and I just missed it?

It's not debatable if she was an undercover operative. The CIA said she was when they asked for the investigation to uncover who outed her.

Novak printed in his column that Scooter Libby told him about Plame. Libby has not said that the VP asked him to do that, but then Bush commuted Scooter's sentence before he had to set foot in a jail cell. One wonders what he would have said if he heard that cell door clang shut. I think Bush will probably pardon him on the way out of office next year.
 

Texan

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ff said:
Novak printed in his column that Scooter Libby told him about Plame. Libby has not said that the VP asked him to do that, but then Bush commuted Scooter's sentence before he had to set foot in a jail cell. One wonders what he would have said if he heard that cell door clang shut. I think Bush will probably pardon him on the way out of office next year.

Which column was that and which time was he lying? :lol:

"Novak testified during the trial that Plame's identity was provided to him by then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage..."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aFKla95yxcR0&refer=us
 

Goodpasture

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Texan said:
Goodpasture said:
That would be the same Novak that committed treason when he outed a CIA undercover operative at the request of Cheney? LOTS of credibility there....... :roll:
It's quite debatable as to whether or not she was an undercover operative.
No, it isn't, unless you have been listening to the idiots at Fox Noise. Further, due to the nature of undercover work, the outing of an agent, even an ex agent is serious as it compromises those people that agent worked with (their sources) over the years. This is why the Stars on the wall of CIA agents who died in service have no names. There is never a proper time to out an undercover agent...living or dead, active or retired. To do so is treason. To do so during a war is is treason punishable by execution.
 

Texan

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Goodpasture said:
Texan said:
Goodpasture said:
That would be the same Novak that committed treason when he outed a CIA undercover operative at the request of Cheney? LOTS of credibility there....... :roll:
It's quite debatable as to whether or not she was an undercover operative.
No, it isn't, unless you have been listening to the idiots at Fox Noise. Further, due to the nature of undercover work, the outing of an agent, even an ex agent is serious as it compromises those people that agent worked with (their sources) over the years. This is why the Stars on the wall of CIA agents who died in service have no names. There is never a proper time to out an undercover agent...living or dead, active or retired. To do so is treason. To do so during a war is is treason punishable by execution.
Was anyone convicted of treason? Was anyone even charged with treason? Maybe because there wasn't any treason?

Don't you think Victoria Toensing should know whether or not Plame was covert? After all, she helped write the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. And she testified that Valerie Plame was NOT a covert operative. Whether you agree with her assessment or not, it certainly proves my statement that you found so objectionable:

Texan said:
It's quite debatable as to whether or not she was an undercover operative.



Now...let's get back to this statement:

Goodpasture said:
...the same Novak that committed treason when he outed a CIA undercover operative at the request of Cheney?
Do you have any proof of that?
 
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The bashing of Mike Huckabee--from the Republicans--has begun. Not a peep from the Democrats. They like Huckabee. They think he's in over his head and will be easy prey in November, in the unlikely event he gets that far.
It's the Republican establishment that hates Huckabee.
The reason is clear but the media are scared to talk about it. The truth is what the current administration really cares about is tax cuts, expecially big ones for the rich. What was the first thing George Bush after Jan. 20, 2001? Tax cuts, including lowering the top marginal rate from 39.6% to 35%. If you are making $10 million a year, that's $460,000 extra in your pocket. After Bush's 2004 victory, he said that the election gave him political capital and he intended to spend it. So what did he do? He spent two months traveling around the country trying to sell a plan to privatize (read: phase out) social security. He didn't spend two months trying to get a constitutional amendment banning abortions or forbidding same-sex marriages. He could have, but didn't want to spend his political capital that way. Even when pleasing the Base was cheap he didn't do it. Remember that his long-time friend, Harriet Miers, was his first Supreme Court nominee, and he asked her to withdraw only after the Base protested loudy. The Republican party's dirty little secret is that upper management really doesn't care much about the social issues; they care about taxes. They trot out the social issues just before each election to whip the Base up into a frenzy and conveniently forget about them after winning.
Huckabee is a real threat because he sincerely believes in the Bible. He's not just making it up to get votes. He's become their Frankenstein monster and must be eliminated.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/
 

jodywy

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Plame outed her self at Washington cocktail parties, heard that at a lecture from James M. Olson Former Chief of CIA counterintelligence.
 

Goodpasture

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jodywy said:
Plame outed her self at Washington cocktail parties, heard that at a lecture from James M. Olson Former Chief of CIA counterintelligence.
She outed herself? At least according to one of her bosses? :roll:

Of course he has no interest whatsoever in keeping his friends in the white house out of jail for treason. And she is shallow enough that she will end her career just so she can brag a little over drinks..........sure....that is plausible, isn't it........
 

Tex

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Goodpasture said:
jodywy said:
Plame outed her self at Washington cocktail parties, heard that at a lecture from James M. Olson Former Chief of CIA counterintelligence.
She outed herself? At least according to one of her bosses? :roll:

Of course he has no interest whatsoever in keeping his friends in the white house out of jail for treason. And she is shallow enough that she will end her career just so she can brag a little over drinks..........sure....that is plausible, isn't it........

I don't think this even matters. GW's administration misinformed (lied) to the Congress about the issues regarding the mission she was on in Africa and then when the truth was told, conducted a smear campaign against those telling the truth. They went as far as having the Pres. claim he would "deal with" whoever was leaking information, going so far as having a reporter put in jail for an extended period of time, then when it was found out that Cheny's office was in charge of the smear campaign, pardoned Scooter Libby.

I guess you can put reporters in jail but excuse a high ranking lawyer for the same or worse thing if they are on your side.

Bush lost any claim to innocence or integrity with his own actions.
 

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