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HuffPO:only thing weirder than Birthers are the anti-birther

hypocritexposer

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The only thing weirder than the Birthers are the anti-Birthers, who blame the Birthers for being conspiracy theorists yet actively feed the conspiracy by refusing to call for President Obama to release his birth certificate.

The state official in Hawaii who manages such things has reiterated that there is indeed an original birth certificate on file which would confirm President Obama's having been born in Hawaii and that she has seen it, but state law won't allow her to release it unless the president authorizes it.

So what's the problem here? Release the original and let's be done with this madness.

I realize there are some faith-based Obama supporters who believe without seeing, but the rest of us in the reality-based world are starting to get that strange feeling we got when Mark Sanford tried to convince us that he was away from his family on Father's Day, hiking the Appalachian trail in order to clear his head and write a book.

During the last campaign, John McCain faced similar questions and promptly responded by releasing his original birth certificate. That's how normal people with nothing to hide handle these things.

Most American's aren't Birthers or anti-Birthers, but we are beginning to wonder why the president doesn't put this one to rest once and for all. Every day he allows this circus to continue is another day that he behaves less like the President of the United States facing weird accusations from fringe groups and more like a strange politician flying to Argentina to visit his soul-mate while pretending to be hiking the Appalachians.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-joseph/the-only-thing-weirder-th_b_248227.html
 

Mike

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Pretty much the same thing that the majority here has said over and over again.

Put up or shut up. :roll:
 

alice

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I know I'm done with it.

This is what I have just emailed to my Congressmen/woman...

If ever there was a time for you to stand up to the conspiracy theorists known as the birthers it is NOW. I would like to see the Republican party become as strong and focused as it once was. The birthers are accomplishing nothing more than to make the Republican party look racist, loony and laughable. Please, denounce the birthers publicly.

Thank you, Alice xxxxxx
 

hypocritexposer

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I still don't understand how someone asking for clarification and respect for the Constitution is "racist, loony and laughable"?

Maybe your Congressman can answer why they should be denounced.

Don't "birthers" include those that are asking the Natural Born Citizen question, Alice?
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
I still don't understand how someone asking for clarification and respect for the Constitution is "racist, loony and laughable"?

Maybe your Congressman can answer why they should be denounced.

Don't "birthers" include those that are asking the Natural Born Citizen question, Alice?

What is about I know I'm done with it that you don't understand. Let me clarify...I'm thru writing about it...I'm thru reading about it...I'm thru allowing myself to get angry when I'm called a traitor and a non patriot for not agreeing with you and your attack pack.

I've let my wishes be known to my Congressmen/woman, and now I'm done with it.

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

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I still don't understand how someone asking for clarification and respect for the Constitution is "racist, loony and laughable"?

You don't agree with me that the Constitutional eligibility clause needs to be upheld?

and then you wonder why your commitment to the highest law in the land and the US is questioned?
 

hypocritexposer

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reader (the Second) said:
Finally some maturity here. Thank you Alice.

Obama released his birth certificate. It's what Hawaii provides. Period.

The head of the Hawaii Dept of Health has repeatedly said that she has seen the other form and that he was born in Hawaii per the released COLB which is an official document.

Birthers denied all evidence presented so far. Why would further evidence be accepted? They have their worldview and their agenda, but the rest of us including the GOP need to move on.

I will write my congresspeople as well.

Are the Natural Born clause questioners included in the "birthers"?
 

Sandhusker

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reader (the Second) said:
Finally some maturity here. Thank you Alice.

Obama released his birth certificate. It's what Hawaii provides. Period.

The head of the Hawaii Dept of Health has repeatedly said that she has seen the other form and that he was born in Hawaii per the released COLB which is an official document.

Birthers denied all evidence presented so far. Why would further evidence be accepted? They have their worldview and their agenda, but the rest of us including the GOP need to move on.

I will write my congresspeople as well.

OBAMA HAS NOT RELEASE HIS DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Good God, woman, would there be a dozen lawsuits to see it if he had released it? Stop your lying and making excuses. Your allegences are showing.
 

alice

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Sandhusker said:
reader (the Second) said:
Finally some maturity here. Thank you Alice.

Obama released his birth certificate. It's what Hawaii provides. Period.

The head of the Hawaii Dept of Health has repeatedly said that she has seen the other form and that he was born in Hawaii per the released COLB which is an official document.

Birthers denied all evidence presented so far. Why would further evidence be accepted? They have their worldview and their agenda, but the rest of us including the GOP need to move on.

I will write my congresspeople as well.

OBAMA HAS NOT RELEASE HIS DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Good God, woman, would there be a dozen lawsuits to see it if he had released it? Stop your lying and making excuses. Your allegences are showing.

Again, for your benefit...

What is about I know I'm done with it that you don't understand. Let me clarify...I'm thru writing about it...I'm thru reading about it...I'm thru allowing myself to get angry when I'm called a traitor and a non patriot for not agreeing with you and your attack pack.

I've let my wishes be known to my Congressmen/woman, and now I'm done with it.

Alice

No mas...finito...finis...the end

Alice
 

TexasBred

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reader (the Second) said:
Finally some maturity here. Thank you Alice.

Obama released his birth certificate. It's what Hawaii provides. Period.
The head of the Hawaii Dept of Health has repeatedly said that she has seen the other form and that he was born in Hawaii per the released COLB which is an official document.
Birthers denied all evidence presented so far. Why would further evidence be accepted? They have their worldview and their agenda, but the rest of us including the GOP need to move on.

I will write my congresspeople as well.

You got two statements that don't agree reader.

"It's what Hawaii provied....Period"
"The head of the Hawaii Dept. of Health has repeatedly said that she has seen THE OTHER FORM and that he was born in Hawaii"


Would it really hurt to release them both...would it hurt to show the citizens of the US his college records, his health records, etc?? Why the hell all the secrecy or are we simply not good enough for him??
 

badaxemoo

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hypocritexposer said:
I still don't understand how someone asking for clarification and respect for the Constitution is "racist, loony and laughable"?

That is because you are loony and laughable.

I don't know about racist, although you spend time defending those that are.

It is hard for loony and laughable people to evaluate their own looniness and laughability precisely because it is hard to get any perspective when you are already loony and laughable.
 

hypocritexposer

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obama supporters are becoming increasingly worried that the BC will actually present evidence of something criminal.

they want this to go away, and as quickly as possible.

the anti-birthers are confused on what is being asked for. When they try to discredit, it always reverts to "he was born in Hawaii, are you nuts"

But the BC may provide the identical information as is written on the COLB, but there is additional details included on the the BC.

Those are the details that the obama supporters are afraid of, so they try to equate the BC and COLB as being "identical"
 

hypocritexposer

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badaxemoo said:
hypocritexposer said:
I still don't understand how someone asking for clarification and respect for the Constitution is "racist, loony and laughable"?

That is because you are loony and laughable.

I don't know about racist, although you spend time defending those that are.

It is hard for loony and laughable people to evaluate their own looniness and laughability precisely because it is hard to get any perspective when you are already loony and laughable.

so standing up for the Constitution is loony and laughable? Great

Did you take an oath Badaxe? Still honor it?
 

Sandhusker

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alice said:
Sandhusker said:
reader (the Second) said:
Finally some maturity here. Thank you Alice.

Obama released his birth certificate. It's what Hawaii provides. Period.

The head of the Hawaii Dept of Health has repeatedly said that she has seen the other form and that he was born in Hawaii per the released COLB which is an official document.

Birthers denied all evidence presented so far. Why would further evidence be accepted? They have their worldview and their agenda, but the rest of us including the GOP need to move on.

I will write my congresspeople as well.

OBAMA HAS NOT RELEASE HIS DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Good God, woman, would there be a dozen lawsuits to see it if he had released it? Stop your lying and making excuses. Your allegences are showing.

Again, for your benefit...

What is about I know I'm done with it that you don't understand. Let me clarify...I'm thru writing about it...I'm thru reading about it...I'm thru allowing myself to get angry when I'm called a traitor and a non patriot for not agreeing with you and your attack pack.

I've let my wishes be known to my Congressmen/woman, and now I'm done with it.

Alice

No mas...finito...finis...the end

Alice

If you're finished, why did you feel the need to respond to a post directed to Reader?
 

Sandhusker

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badaxemoo said:
hypocritexposer said:
I still don't understand how someone asking for clarification and respect for the Constitution is "racist, loony and laughable"?

That is because you are loony and laughable.

I don't know about racist, although you spend time defending those that are.

It is hard for loony and laughable people to evaluate their own looniness and laughability precisely because it is hard to get any perspective when you are already loony and laughable.

And you're not defending a man who is racist? Maybe you ought to look in the mirror before making accusations.
 

hypocritexposer

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the liberal labellers have got themselves in a jam again.

they have labelled those that question anything to do with obama's birth, documents or citizenship status "birthers"

"Birthers" are Racist, looney, laughable. (isolate and demonize)

But as it turns out, some Birthers are included in the group because they question his Constitutional eligibility under the Natural Born Citizen clause.

and they don't even want to touch that one, because they end up labelling themselves as unpatriotic

so when you ask them to define "birthers", that refuse, because it limits their options on who they can isolate and demonize with the same argument.

"he proved he was a citizen, he showed his BC", "you're racist"

Alice, Reader, Badaxe, can you define "birthers" for us?

Do you agree that Obama should prove his eligibility under the Natural Born Citizen clause?

Do you respect and honor the Constitution?
 

alice

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Sandhusker said:
alice said:
Sandhusker said:
OBAMA HAS NOT RELEASE HIS DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Good God, woman, would there be a dozen lawsuits to see it if he had released it? Stop your lying and making excuses. Your allegences are showing.

Again, for your benefit...

What is about I know I'm done with it that you don't understand. Let me clarify...I'm thru writing about it...I'm thru reading about it...I'm thru allowing myself to get angry when I'm called a traitor and a non patriot for not agreeing with you and your attack pack.

I've let my wishes be known to my Congressmen/woman, and now I'm done with it.

Alice

No mas...finito...finis...the end

Alice

If you're finished, why did you feel the need to respond to a post directed to Reader?

Good God, woman,

Guess I read "woman" as "women." My bad...

Alice
 
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