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fff

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Obama's choice for AG looks good to me. Smart, experienced and

Judging by his past statements, Eric Holder Jr., reportedly Barack Obama's top pick for attorney general, may aim to roll back several of the Bush administration's most controversial legal moves if he is selected for the post.

In a June speech to the American Constitution Society, Holder said the Bush administration had taken many steps that "were both excessive and unlawful" in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

"I never thought I would see the day when a Justice Department would claim that only the most extreme infliction of pain and physical abuse constitutes torture and that acts that are merely cruel, inhuman and degrading are consistent with United States law and policy, that the Supreme Court would have to order the president of the United States to treat detainees in accordance with the Geneva Convention, never thought that I would see that a president would act in direct defiance of federal law by authorizing warrantless NSA surveillance of American citizens. This disrespect for the rule of law is not only wrong, it is destructive in our struggle against terrorism," Holder said in the speech.

Holder also advocated closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, transferring the remaining prisoners to the US and adopting an "expedited and procedurally fair" review process.

"It is our task over the next several years to reverse the disastrous course that we have been on over the past few years," Holder said in his conclusion.

More:
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/holder_on_bush.html
 

MsSage

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Yeap he fits right in with obama

Eric H. Holder, Jr. district attorney Personal Information Born c. 1951, in Queens, NY

Eric Himpton Holder, Jr was born on January 21, 1951 in Bronx, New York

My Dad was born in Queens NY there is NO WAY to confuse the 2
forgot to add this
It didnt come out of nowhere
Covington & Burling partner Eric Holder Jr. -- co-chair of Barack Obama's campaignBallentine introduces his guest as a co-chairman of Barack Obama's campaign and then adds: "And you know what? Mr. Holder could wind up the nation's first African-American attorney general should Obama win the White House." Holder, dressed casually in gray slacks and a black sweater, draws his left hand across his throat in a "please don't go there" gesture.
thats from Law.com
 

fff

Well-known member
MsSage said:
Yeap he fits right in with obama

Eric H. Holder, Jr. district attorney Personal Information Born c. 1951, in Queens, NY

Eric Himpton Holder, Jr was born on January 21, 1951 in Bronx, New York

My Dad was born in Queens NY there is NO WAY to confuse the 2
forgot to add this
It didnt come out of nowhere
Covington & Burling partner Eric Holder Jr. -- co-chair of Barack Obama's campaignBallentine introduces his guest as a co-chairman of Barack Obama's campaign and then adds: "And you know what? Mr. Holder could wind up the nation's first African-American attorney general should Obama win the White House." Holder, dressed casually in gray slacks and a black sweater, draws his left hand across his throat in a "please don't go there" gesture.
thats from Law.com

So? My link didn't say Queens NY or Bronx NY. You didn't offer a link. So where are you getting that and what does it have to do with Mr. Holder or his strong belief that noone is above the law?
 

MsSage

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http://www.answers.com/topic/eric-h-holder-jr
For the queens one

http://www.thehistorymakers.com/programs/dvl/files/Holder_Ericf.html
For the Bronx one

forgot to answer your question
I was saying he is just like obama ..dont know where he was born. Atleast he is native born just not sure which Borough of NY
 

rookie

Well-known member
fff said:
Obama's choice for AG looks good to me. Smart, experienced and

Judging by his past statements, Eric Holder Jr., reportedly Barack Obama's top pick for attorney general, may aim to roll back several of the Bush administration's most controversial legal moves if he is selected for the post.

In a June speech to the American Constitution Society, Holder said the Bush administration had taken many steps that "were both excessive and unlawful" in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

"I never thought I would see the day when a Justice Department would claim that only the most extreme infliction of pain and physical abuse constitutes torture and that acts that are merely cruel, inhuman and degrading are consistent with United States law and policy, that the Supreme Court would have to order the president of the United States to treat detainees in accordance with the Geneva Convention, never thought that I would see that a president would act in direct defiance of federal law by authorizing warrantless NSA surveillance of American citizens. This disrespect for the rule of law is not only wrong, it is destructive in our struggle against terrorism," Holder said in the speech.

Holder also advocated closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, transferring the remaining prisoners to the US and adopting an "expedited and procedurally fair" review process.

"It is our task over the next several years to reverse the disastrous course that we have been on over the past few years," Holder said in his conclusion.

More:
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/holder_on_bush.html

Well, my suggestion be that since ole FFF here be so hot and happy ta close Gitmo, after we bring all tha prisoners here ta face trial, and after they cost tha taxpayers millions in trial costs, and after liberal courts and such find em innocent and let em go, then they all be given directions ta ole FFF's house so's they can move right in and live a while. FFF can do they washin and cleanin and cookin fer em so as ta show how sorry we all are fer tha inconvienience we caused em by pullin em off tha battle field and interuptin they killin of our soldiers and others what allied themselves with us.
 

badaxemoo

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rookie said:
Well, my suggestion be that since ole FFF here be so hot and happy ta close Gitmo, after we bring all tha prisoners here ta face trial, and after they cost tha taxpayers millions in trial costs, and after liberal courts and such find em innocent and let em go, then they all be given directions ta ole FFF's house so's they can move right in and live a while. FFF can do they washin and cleanin and cookin fer em so as ta show how sorry we all are fer tha inconvienience we caused em by pullin em off tha battle field and interuptin they killin of our soldiers and others what allied themselves with us.

Still sticking with the put-on Yokel Linguistics, I see.

Is this a verson of ebonics for Kansas?

But yu go on ahed now, a tryin to sound reelistic with yer 'n' droppin' calloqueal wizdom. Yer a reel man of the peoples. A reglar salt of the earth.

Yup.
 

fff

Well-known member
MsSage said:
So one of these websites makes a mistake and it's Eric Holder/Obama's fault? Is this a joke?
Nope I was saying its SOP with yall.

"SOP"? Are you well? Neither of these websites belong to Obama or Holder. How can they possibly be responsible for their content/accuracy?
 

rookie

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
rookie said:
Well, my suggestion be that since ole FFF here be so hot and happy ta close Gitmo, after we bring all tha prisoners here ta face trial, and after they cost tha taxpayers millions in trial costs, and after liberal courts and such find em innocent and let em go, then they all be given directions ta ole FFF's house so's they can move right in and live a while. FFF can do they washin and cleanin and cookin fer em so as ta show how sorry we all are fer tha inconvienience we caused em by pullin em off tha battle field and interuptin they killin of our soldiers and others what allied themselves with us.

Still sticking with the put-on Yokel Linguistics, I see.

Is this a verson of ebonics for Kansas?

But yu go on ahed now, a tryin to sound reelistic with yer 'n' droppin' calloqueal wizdom. Yer a reel man of the peoples. A reglar salt of the earth.

Yup.

Haw haw haw. Silly me.I was expectin an intelligent response but when I saw ya name on it I realized it be just more excrement from a t*rd head liberal. Ya know there moo, if ya was just a bit smarter, ya'd know just enough ta feel bad about how dumb ya really are :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

alice

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badaxemoo said:
rookie said:
Well, my suggestion be that since ole FFF here be so hot and happy ta close Gitmo, after we bring all tha prisoners here ta face trial, and after they cost tha taxpayers millions in trial costs, and after liberal courts and such find em innocent and let em go, then they all be given directions ta ole FFF's house so's they can move right in and live a while. FFF can do they washin and cleanin and cookin fer em so as ta show how sorry we all are fer tha inconvienience we caused em by pullin em off tha battle field and interuptin they killin of our soldiers and others what allied themselves with us.

Still sticking with the put-on Yokel Linguistics, I see.

Is this a verson of ebonics for Kansas?

But yu go on ahed now, a tryin to sound reelistic with yer 'n' droppin' calloqueal wizdom. Yer a reel man of the peoples. A reglar salt of the earth.

Yup.

It takes so long to read the way rookie writes, I get tired of it and quit reading it. Most times I have no idea what he's saying... :???:

Alice
 

Sandhusker

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badaxemoo said:
rookie said:
Well, my suggestion be that since ole FFF here be so hot and happy ta close Gitmo, after we bring all tha prisoners here ta face trial, and after they cost tha taxpayers millions in trial costs, and after liberal courts and such find em innocent and let em go, then they all be given directions ta ole FFF's house so's they can move right in and live a while. FFF can do they washin and cleanin and cookin fer em so as ta show how sorry we all are fer tha inconvienience we caused em by pullin em off tha battle field and interuptin they killin of our soldiers and others what allied themselves with us.

Still sticking with the put-on Yokel Linguistics, I see.

Is this a verson of ebonics for Kansas?

But yu go on ahed now, a tryin to sound reelistic with yer 'n' droppin' calloqueal wizdom. Yer a reel man of the peoples. A reglar salt of the earth.

Yup.

I thought all you Liberals were about tolerance.....
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
badaxemoo said:
rookie said:
Well, my suggestion be that since ole FFF here be so hot and happy ta close Gitmo, after we bring all tha prisoners here ta face trial, and after they cost tha taxpayers millions in trial costs, and after liberal courts and such find em innocent and let em go, then they all be given directions ta ole FFF's house so's they can move right in and live a while. FFF can do they washin and cleanin and cookin fer em so as ta show how sorry we all are fer tha inconvienience we caused em by pullin em off tha battle field and interuptin they killin of our soldiers and others what allied themselves with us.

Still sticking with the put-on Yokel Linguistics, I see.

Is this a verson of ebonics for Kansas?

But yu go on ahed now, a tryin to sound reelistic with yer 'n' droppin' calloqueal wizdom. Yer a reel man of the peoples. A reglar salt of the earth.

Yup.

I thought all you Liberals were about tolerance.....

Tolerant of different races, ethnicities, religions, sexual preferences = yes.

Tolerant of someone trying to fake good old boy diction into written form to sound down home = not so much (and I'm not sure that has anything to do with my political ideology anyway - it's just annoying in a Sarah Palin you betcha kind of way).
 

leanin' H

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badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
badaxemoo said:
Still sticking with the put-on Yokel Linguistics, I see.

Is this a verson of ebonics for Kansas?

But yu go on ahed now, a tryin to sound reelistic with yer 'n' droppin' calloqueal wizdom. Yer a reel man of the peoples. A reglar salt of the earth.

Yup.

I thought all you Liberals were about tolerance.....

Tolerant of different races, ethnicities, religions, sexual preferences = yes.

Tolerant of someone trying to stick fake good old boy diction into written form to sound down home = not so much (and I'm not sure that has anything to do with my political ideology anyway - it's just annoying in a Sarah Palin you betcha kind of way).
If you never post on here again it will be too soon. You are a condescending, arrogant, know-it-all, pompus butt lifting device. People who disagree with you are subject to personal attacks, rude behavior and vicious rants. Please go away. I intend to ignore eveything you post and i hope eveybody else does too. We can debate without putting up with your crap.
 

Yanuck

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leanin' H said:
badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
I thought all you Liberals were about tolerance.....

Tolerant of different races, ethnicities, religions, sexual preferences = yes.

Tolerant of someone trying to stick fake good old boy diction into written form to sound down home = not so much (and I'm not sure that has anything to do with my political ideology anyway - it's just annoying in a Sarah Palin you betcha kind of way).
If you never post on here again it will be too soon. You are a condescending, arrogant, know-it-all, pompus butt lifting device. People who disagree with you are subject to personal attacks, rude behavior and vicious rants. Please go away. I intend to ignore eveything you post and i hope eveybody else does too. We can debate without putting up with your crap.
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
 

badaxemoo

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leanin' H said:
If you never post on here again it will be too soon. You are a condescending, arrogant, know-it-all, pompus butt lifting device. People who disagree with you are subject to personal attacks, rude behavior and vicious rants. Please go away. I intend to ignore eveything you post and i hope eveybody else does too. We can debate without putting up with your crap.

Were you stomping your feet and flailing your arms when you wrote that?

I find it highly ironic that you are offended by my arrogance and want me to go away because I attack a few individuals that frequent this site.

It's those very same individuals that repeatedly denigrate entire races and classes of people with their racist, xenophobic, and homophobic rants.

I've targeted a few while they target millions.

I might annoy you for bringing some progressive aggression to this forum, but collectively their attitudes bring much ugliness to the entire society.

The political is the personal and vice versa.

Now go cry me a river, you big whiner!
 

rookie

Well-known member
leanin' H said:
badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
I thought all you Liberals were about tolerance.....

Tolerant of different races, ethnicities, religions, sexual preferences = yes.

Tolerant of someone trying to stick fake good old boy diction into written form to sound down home = not so much (and I'm not sure that has anything to do with my political ideology anyway - it's just annoying in a Sarah Palin you betcha kind of way).
If you never post on here again it will be too soon. You are a condescending, arrogant, know-it-all, pompus butt lifting device. People who disagree with you are subject to personal attacks, rude behavior and vicious rants. Please go away. I intend to ignore eveything you post and i hope eveybody else does too. We can debate without putting up with your crap.

Haw haw haw.Good stuff there leanin H.

Hey bad ass moosie. Ya need ta be gettin a clue about life in general. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Alice. We be even now then cause I never did consider ya posts, with tha exception a tha one ya just excreted about me, worthy of tha time ta read em. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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