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I think I'll go to Kansas to vacation this summer...

the chief

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....because it makes as much sense as someone who wanted to go to SD because they outlawed ABortion there. :roll:

WICHITA, KANSAS -- In a victory for an abortion rights group, a federal judge ruled Tuesday that abortion clinic doctors and other professionals are not required under Kansas law to report underage sex between consenting youths.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge J. Thomas Marten was a setback for Kansas Atty. Gen. Phill Kline, an abortion foe.

Kline argued that a 1982 Kansas law requiring notification of potential child abuse also applied to consensual sex between minors. He claimed the law applied to abortion clinics, teachers and health professionals.

The Center for Reproductive Rights challenged his interpretation, and the judge sided with the organization.

Kline said the decision was "not unexpected." He said he had not decided on an appeal.
 

Red Robin

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You could also go to kentucky. They have your kind there as well. At least in Kansas it was a federal judge not elected officials.


The Kentucky Board of Education has voted to take the first step in redefining how America dates time. The board voted to include a new secular system of dating the calendar, BCE (Before Common Era) and CE (Common Era), and added it to the BC (Before Christ) and AD (Anno Domini, Latin for "in the year of our Lord") method.

The new secular system of time dating will appear in the curriculum and other materials used by Kentucky educators. This new system is already being included in textbooks across the nation.

The new method will replace the birth of Christ as the dividing point in history. For example, the new system would change 2006 AD (Anno Domini) to 2006 CE (Common Era).

It also opens the door for the ACLU to find a liberal activist judge who will forcefully remove the use of BC and AD. The ACLU types will claim that the use of BC and AD are a violation of the First Amendment because it dates history based on the birth of Christ.

Please forward this poll to your friends and family!
 

Disagreeable

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The Bush Administration keeps telling us we need to improve our education system because we're lagging behind other nations in math and science. All the while, he's paying lip service to "Intelligent Design." Unreal.
 

Red Robin

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Disagreeable said:
Red Robin said:
You could also go to kentucky. They have your kind there as well.

Intelligent people who can think for themselves? I'm sure they do have them in Kentucky.
If you are correct, Kentucky would bar you from even passing through their state.
 

the chief

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Red Robin said:
You could also go to kentucky. They have your kind there as well. At least in Kansas it was a federal judge not elected officials.


The Kentucky Board of Education has voted to take the first step in redefining how America dates time. The board voted to include a new secular system of dating the calendar, BCE (Before Common Era) and CE (Common Era), and added it to the BC (Before Christ) and AD (Anno Domini, Latin for "in the year of our Lord") method.

The new secular system of time dating will appear in the curriculum and other materials used by Kentucky educators. This new system is already being included in textbooks across the nation.




The new method will replace the birth of Christ as the dividing point in history. For example, the new system would change 2006 AD (Anno Domini) to 2006 CE (Common Era).

It also opens the door for the ACLU to find a liberal activist judge who will forcefully remove the use of BC and AD. The ACLU types will claim that the use of BC and AD are a violation of the First Amendment because it dates history based on the birth of Christ.

Please forward this poll to your friends and family!

What the he11 does Kentucky's weird timetable have to do with Kansas' ruling? Are you saying I am not a Christian? Are you implying that God is not in my life? Guess again, RR. Not only do I believe in God and Jesus, I trust them to run my life. I just don't agree with your beliefs on abortion.

I do not consider abortion to be a proper tool for birth control. I do however, condone it in cases of incest, rape and to save the mother's life. I'm sure you disagree, but that is the beauty of MY country: the freedom to think and speak my mind.

I do find it amusing, however, to consider vactioning in a state that supports one's belief on such an issue. That's like choosing to go to Idaho because their school test scores are the best in the country. :?
 

Red Robin

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the chief said:
What the he11 does Kentucky's weird timetable have to do with Kansas' ruling? Are you saying I am not a Christian?
? I have no idea how you got that from my post. I was simply pointing out there are other liberal states. I have no idea whether you are a Christian.
the chief said:
I do find it amusing, however, to consider vactioning in a state that supports one's belief on such an issue. That's like choosing to go to Idaho because their school test scores are the best in the country. :?
I find the abortion issue and killing babies more important than test scores. In addition I like SD. I fail to see how my vacation plans would perplex you for several weeks. The thread has been dead a long time.
 

CattleRMe

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Red Robin said:
the chief said:
What the he11 does Kentucky's weird timetable have to do with Kansas' ruling? Are you saying I am not a Christian?
? I have no idea how you got that from my post. I was simply pointing out there are other liberal states. I have no idea whether you are a Christian.
the chief said:
I do find it amusing, however, to consider vactioning in a state that supports one's belief on such an issue. That's like choosing to go to Idaho because their school test scores are the best in the country. :?
I find the abortion issue and killing babies more important than test scores. In addition I like SD. I fail to see how my vacation plans would perplex you for several weeks. The thread has been dead a long time.

I don't care where you go just please avoid Nebraska..........
 

Cal

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CattleRMe said:
Red Robin said:
the chief said:
What the he11 does Kentucky's weird timetable have to do with Kansas' ruling? Are you saying I am not a Christian?
? I have no idea how you got that from my post. I was simply pointing out there are other liberal states. I have no idea whether you are a Christian.
the chief said:
I do find it amusing, however, to consider vactioning in a state that supports one's belief on such an issue. That's like choosing to go to Idaho because their school test scores are the best in the country. :?
I find the abortion issue and killing babies more important than test scores. In addition I like SD. I fail to see how my vacation plans would perplex you for several weeks. The thread has been dead a long time.

I don't care where you go just please avoid Nebraska..........
Actually most of the people in NE are fine folks, and RR would likely fit in better than CatArmy.
 

Disagreeable

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CattleRMe said:
Red Robin said:
the chief said:
What the he11 does Kentucky's weird timetable have to do with Kansas' ruling? Are you saying I am not a Christian?
? I have no idea how you got that from my post. I was simply pointing out there are other liberal states. I have no idea whether you are a Christian.
the chief said:
I do find it amusing, however, to consider vactioning in a state that supports one's belief on such an issue. That's like choosing to go to Idaho because their school test scores are the best in the country. :?
I find the abortion issue and killing babies more important than test scores. In addition I like SD. I fail to see how my vacation plans would perplex you for several weeks. The thread has been dead a long time.

I don't care where you go just please avoid Nebraska..........


:lol: :lol:
 

theHiredMansWife

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Cal said:
CattleRMe said:
Red Robin said:
? I have no idea how you got that from my post. I was simply pointing out there are other liberal states. I have no idea whether you are a Christian.
I find the abortion issue and killing babies more important than test scores. In addition I like SD. I fail to see how my vacation plans would perplex you for several weeks. The thread has been dead a long time.

I don't care where you go just please avoid Nebraska..........
Actually most of the people in NE are fine folks, and RR would likely fit in better than CatArmy.

Having been a Nebraskan my entire life and having lived in almost every corner, I have to say there really isn't a "type". But God bless her, most of folks in this state are pretty welcoming and open minded. They might not agree with how you do something (and it's entirely likely they won't hesitate to say so), but they sure don't hold it against you. :)
 

CattleRMe

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Cal said:
CattleRMe said:
Red Robin said:
? I have no idea how you got that from my post. I was simply pointing out there are other liberal states. I have no idea whether you are a Christian.
I find the abortion issue and killing babies more important than test scores. In addition I like SD. I fail to see how my vacation plans would perplex you for several weeks. The thread has been dead a long time.

I don't care where you go just please avoid Nebraska..........
Actually most of the people in NE are fine folks, and RR would likely fit in better than CatArmy.

Not all Nebraskans are small minded...........
 

CattleRMe

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theHiredMansWife said:
Cal said:
CattleRMe said:
I don't care where you go just please avoid Nebraska..........
Actually most of the people in NE are fine folks, and RR would likely fit in better than CatArmy.

Having been a Nebraskan my entire life and having lived in almost every corner, I have to say there really isn't a "type". But God bless her, most of folks in this state are pretty welcoming and open minded. They might not agree with how you do something (and it's entirely likely they won't hesitate to say so), but they sure don't hold it against you. :)

I have also been a Nebraskan all of my life and I agree with you HMW most Nebraskan's are very welcoming. Drive in our yard and almost anyone is offered a meal. However I don't think intolerance like what has been presented here would be ok by Nebraska standards...........
 

Red Robin

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CattleRMe said:
theHiredMansWife said:
Cal said:
Actually most of the people in NE are fine folks, and RR would likely fit in better than CatArmy.

Having been a Nebraskan my entire life and having lived in almost every corner, I have to say there really isn't a "type". But God bless her, most of folks in this state are pretty welcoming and open minded. They might not agree with how you do something (and it's entirely likely they won't hesitate to say so), but they sure don't hold it against you. :)

I have also been a Nebraskan all of my life and I agree with you HMW most Nebraskan's are very welcoming. Drive in our yard and almost anyone is offered a meal. However I don't think intolerance like what has been presented here would be ok by Nebraska standards...........
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LINCOLN, Neb. — A federal judge Thursday struck down Nebraska's ban on gay marriage (search), saying the measure interferes not only with the rights of gay couples but also with those of foster parents, adopted children and people in a host of other living arrangements.

The constitutional amendment, which defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman, was passed overwhelmingly by the voters in November 2000.

U.S. District Judge Joseph Bataillon (search) said the ban "imposes significant burdens on both the expressive and intimate associational rights" of gays "and creates a significant barrier to the plaintiffs' right to petition or to participate in the political process."

Bataillon said the ban beyond "goes far beyond merely defining marriage as between a man and a woman."

The judge said the "broad proscriptions could also interfere with or prevent arrangements between potential adoptive or foster parents and children, related persons living together, and people sharing custody of children as well as gay individuals."

Forty states have laws barring same-sex marriages, but Nebraska's ban went further, prohibiting same-sex couples from enjoying many of the legal protections that heterosexual couples enjoy. Gays and lesbians who work for the state or the University of Nebraska (search) system, for example, were banned from sharing health insurance and other benefits with their partners.

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Nebraska has no state law against gay marriage, but state Attorney General Jon Bruning said same-sex marriages were not allowed before the ban and would not be permitted now.

Bruning said he will appeal the ruling.

"Seventy percent of Nebraskans voted for the amendment to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman, and I believe that the citizens of this state have a right to structure their constitution as they see fit," Bruning said.

The challenge was filed by the gay rights organization Lambda Legal and the ACLU's Lesbian and Gay Project.

Lamba Legal attorney David Buckel has called the ban "the most extreme anti-gay family law in the entire nation."

Carla Petersen, a member of Metropolitan Community Church in Omaha, which advocates for gay rights, hailed the ruling.

"Every step is a good step," Petersen said. "It really will get the ball rolling again."

The ruling did not surprise the executive director of the Nebraska Family Council, which led the petition drive to get the ban on the ballot. Al Riskowski said the decision will renew the call to pass a constitutional amendment defining marriage as only between a man and a woman.

Massachusetts has allowed gay marriage since last May. Vermont has offered civil unions to gays since 2000; Connecticut will begin offering civil unions in October
 

kolanuraven

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Why don't you worry about child abuse, spousal abuse, hunger....things that ARE NOT A CHOICE........instead of what people do of their own free will and CHOICE???
 

theHiredMansWife

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Red Robin said:
...newpaper articles here...

What's your point?
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Like I said, people don't usually hesitate to express a disagreement (ie, voting in this case), but they don't usually hold it against someone.

I think more telling are things like the lay pastor of the Methodist church in a small farm/ranch town we used to live near. Who with his "roommate" of 20 years, was openly gay. And had a thriving business in town. (Some people preferred to think of them as roommates, but I'd bet there weren't too many people who didn't really understand what was going on. :lol:)
They were both well-liked, well-respected members of the community.
 

Red Robin

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theHiredMansWife said:
Red Robin said:
...newpaper articles here...

What's your point?
confused-smiley-013.gif


Like I said, people don't usually hesitate to express a disagreement (ie, voting in this case), but they don't usually hold it against someone.

I think more telling are things like the lay pastor of the Methodist church in a small farm/ranch town we used to live near. Who with his "roommate" of 20 years, was openly gay. And had a thriving business in town. (Some people preferred to think of them as roommates, but I'd bet there weren't too many people who didn't really understand what was going on. :lol:)
They were both well-liked, well-respected members of the community.
It was not my point but rather this from CRM that I was posting a article to refute.

CattleRMe:However I don't think intolerance like what has been presented here would be ok by Nebraska standards...........

Intolerance to homosexuality seems pretty pervasive in Neb. and seems likely that I'd fit in fine in Neb. or most midwestern states.
 

Red Robin

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kolanuraven said:
Why don't you worry about child abuse, spousal abuse, hunger....things that ARE NOT A CHOICE........instead of what people do of their own free will and CHOICE???
Of the three threads that have mentioned or are about homosexuality, none of them have been started by me. Go look at the threads. They were all started or the topic was broached by gay right supporters. The question is why don't You and your buddies quit bringing the topic up if you don't want to talk about it. I have another idea , when you see a thread steer toward homosexuality, don't look at it again. You'll be so happy then.
 

kolanuraven

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RR: I didn't bring it up...and you chimed right in on 'chiefs' thread and switched gears here.....not me!!!

I said I was done going back and forth with you on one other thread....and so I'm done dealing with you on this one.

It's like talking to the wall.....maybe one day you will learn to live by the Golden Rule yourself and treat others as you'd like to be treated.


Over and out.....
 
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kolanuraven said:
RR: I didn't bring it up...and you chimed right in on 'chiefs' thread and switched gears here.....not me!!!
Maybe RR felt the right to chime right in on this thread because it was a deliberate attempt to ridicule him/her. Did you ever think about that?

And since this entire thread was obviously an attempt to ridicule RR, I wonder where the self-proclaimed 'Moderator of Thread Intentions, Avenger of Ridicule' is?
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I see that she has posted on this thread, yet has made no mention of the dastardly 'intent to ridicule' that is so readily apparent. Apparent even to MY untrained eye, I might ad.

I guess maybe she has changed her focus? Or maybe she only finds fault with intent when a conservative posts something that she doesn't approve of. Could that be it? Typical of an 'independent', I suppose. :lol:
 
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