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I was a racial profiler: Ex-cop says he used skin color to m

hypocritexposer

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I was a racial profiler: Ex-cop says he used skin color to make arrests

I was a racial profiler: Ex-cop says he used skin color to make arrests
By Jake Mcnicholas

Sunday, August 2nd 2009, 4:00 AM

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/08/02/2009-08-02_i_was_a_racial_profiler.html#ixzz0N33Eb94W


I'm retired now after a wonderful career with the New York City Police Department, and I have a confession to make.

I used a person's race to initiate investigations and make subsequent arrests. In fact, according to the definition bandied about by those on the left who have no idea what they are talking about nor a clue when it comes to police work, I was - yes - a racial profiler.

A little background. I was a detective, a third generation member of the greatest police department in the world, descendant of my grandfather who sailed from the west of Ireland and then served as a cop for 35 years. My dad, the man I most admire, is a retired first grade detective who put in 33.

In November 1992 I was transferred to Manhattan North Narcotics. We covered the precincts north of 59th St. but rarely did enforcement south of 96th St.

I never had a better time in my life than my early years in Manhattan North. I worked with the greatest guys in the world and had more laughs than you could imagine. I went to war with these guys and gals, white, black, Hispanic.

Put it this way. When you were up there during this time, you didn't want to take off or go on vacation and miss something. There was nothing worse than coming back to work and have some guy say, "Wow, you should have been here yesterday."

I spent a lot of time in Washington Heights during those years, working narcotics in the confines of the 30th Precinct. It was a busy place with loads of illegal drug activity - dealing on the street and in residential buildings outfitted and barricaded as drug spots. We made arrests, thousands of arrests, and here is one of the ways the white cops and Hispanic cops and black cops did it.

We looked for white people.

That's all you really had to do. Cruise Broadway or Amsterdam Ave. or Riverside Drive in an unmarked car, spot the white guy driving the vehicle with the Jersey plate slow and deliberate, watch him park and shuffle to the sale location, watch him walk back to the vehicle with the pep in his step shortly thereafter and bingo. Most times you had a collar.

That's what you were paying us for, wasn't it? The good people of Washington Heights have a right to live in a neighborhood free of cretins driving over the George Washington Bridge to Manhattan for the sole purpose of buying drugs, don't they?

Is that not good police work? Of course it is.

So please, ponder this for a moment. Who do you think is terrorizing the black community? Who do you think is raping and assaulting young black women? Who do you think is pulling out the nine and shooting young male blacks on the corner over a bag of Cheez Doodles and a Philly blunt?

Pause and ask yourself why do you think more blacks and Hispanics are stopped? Because, you guessed it, they are the ones committing the crimes and fitting the description. The Police Department is not making this up. This is the horrible truth. The carnage is appalling, and rather than address the real issue, liberals and civil rights leaders make excuses and ignore the facts.

Now the left is all worked up over a cop responding to a 911 call of a burglary in progress and the resulting collar. Henry Louis Gates Jr. is a Harvard professor. How about this novel approach, "Certainly, here's my ID and thanks for the quick response Sergeant."?

But here is the most profoundly sad part about it all. Even after Thursday's "beer summit," this will be an issue for months, a ridiculous issue. And all the while the body count from black-on-black crime will continue to rise.

McNicholas served with the NYPD from 1985 to 2007, retiring as a first grade detective from the terrorist interdiction unit of the Intelligence Division.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/08/02/2009-08-02_i_was_a_racial_profiler.html#ixzz0N332MeNb
 

don

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who sends you all this stuff that you're supposed to get out on the web? you may not be working for pay but i'm pretty sure you don't go digging up all these links on your own. my bet is there's some organization that wants this propaganda out there and you're one of the conduits.
 

Bullhauler

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don said:
who sends you all this stuff that you're supposed to get out on the web? you may not be working for pay but i'm pretty sure you don't go digging up all these links on your own. my bet is there's some organization that wants this propaganda out there and you're one of the conduits.

Don't expect a straight answer. He usaully takes weekends off must be earning time and a half today.
 

don

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hypo is just being used to get a bunch or rightwing propaganda out to make it seem more mainstream. very few original comments from him; just more and more links and paste jobs.
 

hypocritexposer

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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/*/index

It's a discussion board, much like this one, but with many more members. Articles with link are submitted many a minute.

kind of like a news wire.

so you essentially have individuals collecting news items from all over the world.

does have a conservative bias to it, but non the less it has many news items that you will not find in the MSM
 

don

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no reasonable person is going to doubt that there are racists of every color but the slant here is that justifies white racism. go ahead if it makes your life easier.
 

Bullhauler

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hypocritexposer said:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/*/index



does have a conservative bias to it, but non the less it has many news items that you will not find in the MSM

Well no **** you won't find them in the msm. They are junk that usually make the national enquirers stuff seem legit.
 

hypocritexposer

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Bullhauler said:
hypocritexposer said:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/*/index



does have a conservative bias to it, but non the less it has many news items that you will not find in the MSM

Well no s*** you won't find them in the msm. They are junk that usually make the national enquirers stuff seem legit.

most articles that are posted on free republic are linked to more local or smaller media sources that are avialble to everyone, like this article from the : New York Daily News, but you would not have probably seen it, would you?

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/08/02/2009-08-02_i_was_a_racial_profiler.html#ixzz0N332MeNb
 

hypocritexposer

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Here Bullhauler, here's the Free Republic website as it is right now. If you go back in a minute or 2, the top articles will be bumped down one or 2, eventually falling off the first page. I don't like the system as much as PB though, cause those that are commented on do not come to the top

see any MSM news articles being discussed? It's very much the same as PB, memebers can post whatever they like, an MSM article, an opinion, a blog article, and then hopefully a discussion ensues.

What's wrong with that?

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Nen's Nws Daily ^ | June 26, 2009 | Bernard Chapin
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Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:40:28 AM · by jazminerose · 8 replies · 185+ views
www.joytiz.com ^ | 8/2/09 | Joy Tiz
Following the breathtaking success of the Cash for Clunkers scheme, the White House is about to roll out a key plank in Obama Care: Cash for Grannies. The program is designed to empower family members of senior citizens to relieve themselves of the burden of caring for elderly Americans who are no longer useful and are consuming valuable resources. Though Obama and Nancy Pelosi are both claiming credit for the program, it was actually drafted by unrepentant Nazi collaborator and democrat financier, George Soros. Soros is a notorious advocate of the assisted suicide campaign. He papers over it with tripe...
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Facebook and MySpace can lead children to commit suicide, warns Archbishop Nichols
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:40:28 AM · by marthemaria · 16 replies · 197+ views
http://www.telegraph.co.uk ^
Websites such as Facebook and MySpace encourage teenagers to view friendship as a "commodity" and are leading them to suicide, the head of the Catholic Church in England and Wales has warned. Archbishop Vincent Nichols said the sites are leading teenagers to build "transient relationships" which leave them unable to cope when their social networks collapse. He said the internet and mobile phones were "dehumanising" community life. His comments follow the death of 15-year-old schoolgirl who took a fatal overdose of painkillers last week after being bullied on Bebo, another networking site. In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, the...
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British Troops Too Fat to Fight
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:40:02 AM · by panzerkampfwagen · 7 replies · 195+ views
The Observe ^ | unday 2 August 2009 | Mark Townsend
A leaked memo sent to all army units and obtained by the Observer reveals that basic fitness policy "is not being carried out" and highlights concern among military commanders over a "worrying trend of obesity" that is limiting the number of soldiers fit enough to fight in Helmand. Units are routinely failing to fulfil the army's basic fitness regime of two hours of physical exercise a week, it adds, and the army must "reinvigorate a warrior ethos". To counter the problem, the army will introduce a "body composition measurement" policy this October to weed out overweight troops as well as...
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Gay Weddings in Israel will have all the Jewish trimmings
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:38:37 AM · by Maelstorm · 9 replies · 200+ views
http://www.eturbonews.com ^ | Aug 02, 2009 | www.eturbonews.com
There is an old joke around these parts. Question: Other than Jerusalem, what do ultra-religious Jews, Muslims and Christians love? Answer: They love to hate homosexuals. But travel the 60km (40 miles) from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv, and you enter a world apart. Major streets are decked with the multi-coloured Gay Pride banner. In this centenary year of the city, this is now Gay Pride month. On Friday, in Meir Dizengoff park, tens of thousands of people are expected to attend the annual Gay Pride parade which will end, this year, with a twist. Four couples will take part in...
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Analysis: Eurofighter/Typhoon was designed in a different era
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:36:40 AM · by sukhoi-30mki · 9 replies · 270+ views
The Times, UK ^ | July 31, 2009 | Michael Evans
Analysis: Eurofighter/Typhoon was designed in a different era Michael Evans, Defence Editor The Eurofighter Typhoon programme has been one of the most controversial military equipment projects, not just because of its cost — more than £20 billion for the proposed 232 aircraft — but because the fast jet was designed with the Cold War in mind. It was thought that the RAF would need the most advanced aircraft to win superiority against the best Russian fighters. The design was first sketched in 1979 but the contract for the Eurofighter, later renamed the Typhoon, was not signed with Britain’s three European...
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Geithner Won't Rule Out New Taxes for Middle Class (by ABC's G. Stephanopoulos)
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:33:46 AM · by SmartInsight · 49 replies · 935+ views
ABC News ^ | August 2, 2009 | George Stephanopoulos
To get the economy back on track, will President Barack Obama have to break his pledge not to raise taxes on 95 percent of Americans? In a "This Week" exclusive, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told me, "We're going to have to do what’s necessary." Geithner was clear that he believes a key component of economic recovery is deficit reduction. When I gave him several opportunities to rule out a middle class tax hike, he wouldn't do it. "We have to bring these deficits down very dramatically," Geithner told me. "And that's going to require some very hard choices."
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Pope Benedict to Catholics: Kneel For Communion
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:32:08 AM · by NYer · 57 replies · 497+ views
News Blaze ^ | August 1, 2009 | David Martin
"Whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the Body and of the Blood of the Lord... For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the Body of the Lord" - 1 Corinthians 11:27,28 Pope Benedict to Catholics: Kneel and Receive on the Tongue Only Pope Benedict XVI does not want the faithful receiving Communion in their hand nor does he want them standing to receive Christ in the Blessed Sacrament. According to Vatican liturgist, Monsignor Guido Marini, the pope is trying to set...
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In Israel, Catholic School Teachers Study Anti-Semitism & the Holocaust [Catholic Caucus]
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:30:29 AM · by Pope Pius XII · 5 replies · 65+ views
ADL ^ | July 30, 2009
Catholic school teachers from around the country traveled to Israel to learn about anti-Semitism and the Holocaust as part of the Anti-Defamation League's (ADL) nationally acclaimed Bearing Witness Advanced program. Bearing Witness Advanced provides educators with an opportunity to gain firsthand knowledge of Israel against the backdrop of Jewish history, the Holocaust and Catholic-Jewish relations. "Combining experts' knowledge of the Holocaust with the words of those who experienced it can have a unique and powerful impact," said Dr. Ed S. Alster, ADL's Director of Education. "The teachers learned firsthand how anti-Semitism can lead to tragedy if left unchecked. The experience...
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Sweden vs. Talibans
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:30:17 AM · by WesternCulture · 14 replies · 413+ views
08/01/2009 | WesternCulture
Lately, Talibans threatening Sweden and Finland have been all over the news, at least over here in Scandinavia. The Nordic troops are in Afghanistan because we Vikings don't especially approve of little Afghanistan girls getting shot in the back because their parents are Westernized enough to send them too a school. Yes, even though we Swedes nuture a culture of being very diplomatic, PC and understanding, there is a limit even to our pacifism. If I was a clever Taliban, I wouldn't pick a fight with troops originating from Sweden and Finland (see clip below). Everyone despise us Swedes, but...
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Summers won't rule out new taxes [BOHICA]
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:29:57 AM · by advance_copy · 13 replies · 204+ views
The Hill ^ | 8/02/09 | Michael O'Brien
New taxes to help address the long-term budget deficit cannot be ruled out, National Economic Council Director Larry Summers admitted Sunday. Summers said during an appearance on CBS that "it's never a good idea to absolutely rule things out no matter what" when it comes to the prospect of new taxes. [snip] President Obama's top economic adviser said that the efforts to restructure healthcare in the U.S. would be chief among its efforts to reduce the deficit over time, characterizing the administration's attempt for a deficit-neutral reform bill as historically responsible. "This is the most fiscally responsible approach to introducing...
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Partisan Trends: Democrats Down Two Points in July
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:28:15 AM · by freespirited · 5 replies · 178+ views
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 08/01/09
The number of Americans identifying themselves as Democrats fell by two percentage points in July with Republicans and the number of unaffiliateds each gaining a point. In July, 36.8% of American adults considered themselves Democrats. That’s down two points from last month and down five points since December. This is the lowest percentage of Democrats measured since December 2007 (See History of Party Trends from January 2004 to the present). Still, there are more Democrats than Republicans. A total of 33.3% now claim an affiliation with the GOP. While that’s up a point over a month ago, it’s right in...
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New fee's for public school.
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:21:34 AM · by edcoil · 17 replies · 289+ views
8-1-09 | edcoil
I am now getting the sign-up forms for my children's public school for the fall season. They have add hundreds of dollars in new "fees" parents much make to the school for a laundry list of things for spirit shirts, etc. I know public schools around town don't have to pay these fees - it just seems the higher income areas are asked to fund the budget reductions. Anyone else getting huge new fees added to "public education."
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Suspect in Gay Sailor's Murder Found Dead (Notice the double standard in reporting this)
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:17:38 AM · by Maelstorm · 15 replies · 453+ views
http://www.sandiego6.com ^ | 8/01/2009 | San Diego 6 News Team
SAN DIEGO - A sailor accused of murdering a fellow seaman on duty at Camp Pendleton committed suicide in the base brig. Jonathan Campos, 32, of Lancaster, was found unresponsive in his cell at about 12:20 p.m., taken to the base hospital and declared dead about 1:15 p.m.,the Los Angeles Times reported. Campos, a petty officer 2nd class, apparently asphyxiated himself with toilet paper. He had been on suicide watch in the brig and was last checked at 11:45 a.m., according to a Navy written statement. Campos was charged with murdering 29-year-old August Provost on June 30 at about 2...
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Israeli police recommend Lieberman indictment (FM Avigdor Lieberman accused of money laundering)
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:16:33 AM · by SolidWood · 2 replies · 138+ views
JTA - Jewish and Israel News ^ | August 2, 2009 | JTA
JERUSALEM (JTA) -- The Israeli Police's National Fraud Unit recommended that the state prosecutor indict Avigdor Lieberman in a money-laundering scheme. In a brief turned over Sunday to the Attorney General's office, the police recommended that the foreign minister be indicted on charges of bribery, fraud, money laundering, witness harassment and obstruction of justice, Ha'aretz reported. The investigation has been ongoing for several years, but picked up steam after Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu became the third largest political party in the country in last February's elections. Lieberman petitioned the Supreme Court to speed up the investigation after he became foreign minister.
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British Health Care System Forces Tens Of Thousands To Live in PAIN
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:16:03 AM · by Shellybenoit · 16 replies · 198+ views
UK Telegraph/The Lid ^ | 8/2/09 | The Lid
This is the type of health care we have to look forward to should the Obamacare bill become law. In Great Britain the National Health Service (NHS) found a brilliant way to saves £33 million, reduce the number of injections someone with chronic back pain can revive. Tens of thousands of back pain sufferers had been receiving cortosone injections which relieve the excruciating agony, but now the governmental authority charged with health care rationing has announced that it will no longer pay for those injections unless the doctor can provide an exact reason for the pain, dooming those patients to...
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Virginia Is For Pro Gun Activists(VA)
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:15:58 AM · by marktwain · 3 replies · 128+ views
Ammoland.com ^ | 31 July, 2009 | Glen Caro
National Rifle Association Virginia - -(AmmoLand.com)- As I noted in last month’s column, the 2009 Virginia elections will be ground zero for our grassroots activities this year. Not only will these elections determine the future our of our gun rights in Virginia, but they will also be used as a barometer for the 2010 elections. If two recent events I attended in Virginia Beach are any indication, we are well positioned this year in Virginia to remind politicians running in 2010 that those who oppose the Second Amendment do so at their own political peril! On July 16, my Virginia...
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Another Extraordinary Ordinary Patriot of the Tea Party Movement
Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:15:49 AM · by Lloyd Marcus · 2 replies · 140+ views
LloydMarcus.com ^ | 08-02-09 | Lloyd Marcus
I met Warren Kaul when I performed at the O Town Tea Party in Orlando, Florida. He was manning the Fair Tax booth. On stage, Warren expressed his displeasure with Obama's stimulus “nightmare” and his plans to transform America. Warren was born into extreme poverty and grew up in a two room shack in the hollows of Charleston, West Virginia. Encouraged by his mother, Warren was the first in his family to graduate high school. This was a major achievement for the Kaul family. Warren took it further and graduated college. Warren's success inspired his two sisters to graduated...
 
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And I worked with several law enforcement that had worked the civil rights disturbances in the 60's and 70's- both on the east coast and the west coast..And they told of profiling blacks...

Driving around in the 'Black Maria" armored cars- and shooting tear gas grenades into all the fancy black pimps new cadillacs- and watching them burn-----and sending attack dogs into second and third floor apartment houses, so they could watch all the black folks of all ages bailing out the windows-----or stopping any carload of blacks they saw running around and searching it- and if they found even an empty beer can, throwing them all in jail for open container..
I could go on- and on- and on with stories....
I've seen racial profiling by law enforcement worked both ways on the reservation...Much worse years ago- both ways...

But does that mean we should be running around promoting and condoning it- like it seems so many on here want to.... :???: :( This is something most reasonable people want to see end- and put that generation behind us....
 

hypocritexposer

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yep, it's been happening for the last 40-50+ years, thankfully it is decreasing in frequency.

thanks for bringing the thread back on topic OT.

I think the point of the article is that when you are targeting the crime, sometimes there is a racial element to it, so you will definitely "pick up" those that belong to that race.

much like illegal immigration. If you are looking for illegal Mexicans, are you going to pick up many African Americans?

In Canada, if you are looking for some of the biggest drug dealers, you are looking for guys wearing biker patches, who are mostly white, is it racial profiling?
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
And I worked with several law enforcement that had worked the civil rights disturbances in the 60's and 70's- both on the east coast and the west coast..And they told of profiling blacks...

Driving around in the 'Black Maria" armored cars- and shooting tear gas grenades into all the fancy black pimps new cadillacs- and watching them burn-----and sending attack dogs into second and third floor apartment houses, so they could watch all the black folks of all ages bailing out the windows-----or stopping any carload of blacks they saw running around and searching it- and if they found even an empty beer can, throwing them all in jail for open container..
I could go on- and on- and on with stories....
I've seen racial profiling by law enforcement worked both ways on the reservation...Much worse years ago- both ways...

But does that mean we should be running around promoting and condoning it- like it seems so many on here want to.... :???: :( This is something most reasonable people want to see end- and put that generation behind us....

so if the person described by witnesses as a short fat white guy robbed the bank.. you would not "just" look for a short fat white guy?

politician correctness shouldn't interfere with effectively using limited police resources..
 

Sandhusker

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:agree:

I've got no problem with profiling, whether it be race, sex, etc... because, bottom line, it makes sense. If 80% of street crime is committed by gangbangers and 90% of the gangbangers are minority males between the ages of 15 and 25, you give them them the most attention. Common sense. Does that mean that when you see 4 of them in a car that you automatically pull them over? No. Does that mean that you look at them more closely, maybe follow them a bit? Yes.

Heck, we profile all the time without even thinking about it. If you're from out of town and have the hankering for some Italian food and your choices are "Joes Diner", "Pepe Sanchez's" or "Tino Bergatti's", where are you going to go? You're going to profile, play the odds, and go to Tinos.

Profiling is just playing the odds in the name of efficiency. It's simply common sense.
 

Mike

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Pause and ask yourself why do you think more blacks and Hispanics are stopped? Because, you guessed it, they are the ones committing the crimes and fitting the description. The Police Department is not making this up. This is the horrible truth. The carnage is appalling, and rather than address the real issue, liberals and civil rights leaders make excuses and ignore the facts.

C'mon folks and use some common sense.

Do you stop a 90 year old Hispanic lady for burglarizing the corner liquor store when the description given to the police is a black male?

Profiling is police work, plain and simple. If a suspect fits the description, you HAVE to question them. When that system is overturned, no one will ever be arrested. :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Isn't it ironic that profiling is supposed to be bad, but when you have local enforcement over their head, they oftentimes bring in a PROFILER from the FBI? Now why would they do that?
 
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Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
And I worked with several law enforcement that had worked the civil rights disturbances in the 60's and 70's- both on the east coast and the west coast..And they told of profiling blacks...

Driving around in the 'Black Maria" armored cars- and shooting tear gas grenades into all the fancy black pimps new cadillacs- and watching them burn-----and sending attack dogs into second and third floor apartment houses, so they could watch all the black folks of all ages bailing out the windows-----or stopping any carload of blacks they saw running around and searching it- and if they found even an empty beer can, throwing them all in jail for open container..
I could go on- and on- and on with stories....
I've seen racial profiling by law enforcement worked both ways on the reservation...Much worse years ago- both ways...

But does that mean we should be running around promoting and condoning it- like it seems so many on here want to.... :???: :( This is something most reasonable people want to see end- and put that generation behind us....

so if the person described by witnesses as a short fat white guy robbed the bank.. you would not "just" look for a short fat white guy?

politician correctness shouldn't interfere with effectively using limited police resources..

Steve- that is not profiling--BUT when you go out and target only cars with black young males to stop and search to see if you can find something to arrest them on (open container because of an old beer can)- just because you "think" they fit the profile of those that will cause problems during the night-- is definitely racial profiling...

Working a reservation really gives you some experiences- especially since they are sovereign nations that operate under a half dozen laws- Federal- State- Tribal- County- City-- and many that pertain to some- don't pertain to others....

I can remember years ago when one of the tribal cops would call on the radio at 2AM and tell you he had somebody violating the open container law in town----You'd arrive and find 300 people sitting on the street drinking- and he'd point out the one nonenrolled with the tribe white guy (might not even be white- or all white- or a Canadian Indian)- sitting with 299 enrolled members all drinking beer (open container was a city violation- but unenforceable against tribal members who had no law against it)....But sometimes back then I saw tribal members targeted off rez too-- but thankfully over the years much (not all) of this has disappeared....And with the Rez's- and the sovereign nation status's within the States and Nation- it may be longer in leaving-- but with so much intermarriage and interaction between the governments- hopefully it will continue.....
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve- that is not profiling--BUT when you go out and target only cars with black young males to stop and search to see if you can find something to arrest them on (open container because of an old beer can)- just because you "think" they fit the profile of those that will cause problems during the night-- is definitely racial profiling...

so how was it racial profiling to investigate a break in, not even knowing the color of the skin of those involved, with the Gates break-in?
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Steve- that is not profiling--BUT when you go out and target only cars with black young males to stop and search to see if you can find something to arrest them on (open container because of an old beer can)- just because you "think" they fit the profile of those that will cause problems during the night-- is definitely racial profiling...

so how was it racial profiling to investigate a break in, not even knowing the color of the skin of those involved, with the Gates break-in?

I don't think either I or Steve mentioned the Gates incident....

And I've commented on the issue several times previously- so tell your "Komrades" that pay your salary- I say "no comment" on your trying to stir up hatemongering/fearmongering..... :( :( :(
 
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