Big Muddy rancher
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But OT is still whining about Bush, NAFTA, Canadian Cattle, Bush, Cheney the Neocons.ect,ect. Bush and Bush. :roll:
Big Hill said:Lol, maybe OT is just trying to make sure it's all out the door before he lets up any. It's really kind of amusing to see so much hatred for a past president and all the blame placed (not always in the right spot) just because of a party affiliation. :???:
Well I Hope & Pray your wrong Faster.....I TRULY,TRULY want your president to succeed,it blows my mind how many negative people seem to be hoping Obama fails....I SURE don't,because it won't help either of countries IF that happens...SighhhhhhhhhhFaster horses said:Oh, OT, Obama will do his part and our GRANDCHILDREN can feel and pay for the negative effects of that for more years to come.
Mrs.Greg said:Well I Hope & Pray your wrong Faster.....I TRULY,TRULY want your president to succeed,it blows my mind how many negative people seem to be hoping Obama fails....I SURE don't,because it won't help either of countries IF that happens...SighhhhhhhhhhFaster horses said:Oh, OT, Obama will do his part and our GRANDCHILDREN can feel and pay for the negative effects of that for more years to come.
Faster horses said:Oh, OT, Obama will do his part and our GRANDCHILDREN can feel and pay for the negative effects of that for more years to come.
Faster horses said:Oh, OT, Obama will do his part and our GRANDCHILDREN can feel and pay for the negative effects of that for more years to come.
Oldtimer said:Faster horses said:Oh, OT, Obama will do his part and our GRANDCHILDREN can feel and pay for the negative effects of that for more years to come.
The thing is-- our CHILDREN and GRANDCHILDREN will already be paying for the "Fiscal Conservaty" of George Bush- and the backslapping, rubberstamping, unregulating, unquestioning Republican majority Congress--- and now look where we are....
Yours and My generation will never recoup the loss's-- and according to the economists I now listen to ( sorry if I don't buy into GW's anymore :roll: )- unless major amounts are funneled into the economy- along with taxcuts- the US economy (thanks to GW's being asleep at the wheel) will cease to exist....
I don't really want to live like the Mexicans or the Chinese- do you :???: .....
Oldtimer said:I don't really want to live like the Mexicans or the Chinese- do you :???: .....[/quote said:do you mean live in California?
The people are NOT hoping he fails they are saying what he wants to do will fail. Just because they disagree with him does NOT mean they are NEGATIVE it just means they are realist.it blows my mind how many negative people seem to be hoping Obama fails
The thing is-- our CHILDREN and GRANDCHILDREN will already be paying for the "Fiscal Conservaty" of George Bush
Symptoms of groupthink
In order to make groupthink testable, Irving Janis devised eight symptoms that are indicative of groupthink (1977).
1. Illusions of invulnerability creating excessive optimism and encouraging risk taking.
2. Rationalising warnings that might challenge the group's assumptions.
3. Unquestioned belief in the morality of the group, causing members to ignore the consequences of their actions.
4. Stereotyping those who are opposed to the group as weak, evil, disfigured, impotent, or stupid.
5. Direct pressure to conform placed on any member who questions the group, couched in terms of "disloyalty".
6. Self censorship of ideas that deviate from the apparent group consensus.
7. Illusions of unanimity among group members, silence is viewed as agreement.
8. Mindguards — self-appointed members who shield the group from dissenting information.
Groupthink, resulting from the symptoms listed above, results in defective desision making. That is, consensus driven decisions are the result of the following practices of groupthinking:
1. Incomplete survey of alternatives
2. Incomplete survey of objectives
3. Failure to examine risks of prefered choice
4. Failure to reevaluate previously rejected alternatives
5. Poor information search
6. Selection bias in collecting information
7. Failure to work out contigency plans.