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I will no longer pick on Alice's posts.

Vision

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This is not a joke I am serious.

When I first came here I thought Alice was just another far left moonbat who willingly brushes reality aside.

I have begun to realize that the reason she acts the way she does is not because she wont deal with facts or reality, it is that she can't.

Even the worst of the moonbats makes a small attempt at finding some facts or data and attempt to land a substantive point occasionally, even if their argument does get blown out of the water.

After seeing her posts from today, yesterday and before I realize that she just can't do it.

After seeing her totally brash irrationality it reminds me of certain symptoms that I have seen in people when I used to do some volunteering.

Some of you on this board know each other personally.

IF you guys know Alice please make sure that her family looks after her and such. Now that I realize that she can't deal with reality there is no point in delivering the facts with any rhetorical sting. There is nothing to be gained from it. Oh I may still correct the record from time to time but picking on someone who is obviously ill is wrong so I am not going to do that to her posts any more.

OT is another story altogether... at least for now and I am starting to have doubts about FFF.

Alice I sincerely hope that you get some help and I will say a prayer for your health.
 

alice

Well-known member
Vision said:
This is not a joke I am serious.

When I first came here I thought Alice was just another far left moonbat who willingly brushes reality aside.

I have begun to realize that the reason she acts the way she does is not because she wont deal with facts or reality, it is that she can't.

Even the worst of the moonbats makes a small attempt at finding some facts or data and attempt to land a substantive point occasionally, even if their argument does get blown out of the water.

After seeing her posts from today, yesterday and before I realize that she just can't do it.

After seeing her totally brash irrationality it reminds me of certain symptoms that I have seen in people when I used to do some volunteering.

Some of you on this board know each other personally.

IF you guys know Alice please make sure that her family looks after her and such. Now that I realize that she can't deal with reality there is no point in delivering the facts with any rhetorical sting. There is nothing to be gained from it. Oh I may still correct the record from time to time but picking on someone who is obviously ill is wrong so I am not going to do that to her posts any more.

OT is another story altogether... at least for now and I am starting to have doubts about FFF.

Alice I sincerely hope that you get some help and I will say a prayer for your health.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is just to make sure that you can't delete this post, little man.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Alice
 

nonothing

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Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...
 

Vision

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...

Spare me the pep talk young man, like everyone else I am just seeking some stimulating exchange of ideas. I do not spread hate or spew venom at people who's only "offense" is to bring superior knowledge, preperation and ideas to the conversation.

If you think that you have what it takes in the arena of facts and ideas you are welcome to dig in and give it your best shot. I am most curious to see if you can lose an argument like a man and not pop off in a fit of insecurity in the face of someome who is more prepared than you.

I wish you luck. If you read a lot, study hard and make sure that your critical thinking is sharp, you might do ok. I have found your attempt to posture me almost amusing. Now lets see if you have some substance.
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Vision said:
nonothing said:
Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...

Spare me the pep talk young man, like everyone else I am just seeking some stimulating exchange of ideas. I do not spread hate or spew venom at people who's only "offense" is to bring superior knowledge, preperation and ideas to the conversation.

If you think that you have what it takes in the arena of facts and ideas you are welcome to dig in and give it your best shot. I am most curious to see if you can lose an argument like a man and not pop off in a fit of insecurity in the face of someome who is more prepared than you.

I wish you luck. If you read a lot, study hard and make sure that your critical thinking is sharp, you might do ok. I have found your attempt to posture me almost amusing. Now lets see if you have some substance.

I do not spread hate or spew venom at people who's only "offense" is to bring superior knowledge, preperation and ideas to the conversation.


Of course you do,your venom towards Alice may not be that of the posionous kiind,but many times your over confidence is exposed and the jealousy inside you leaks out...

Your continual attacks are only aimed at a few here and your un-willingness to take on those who fall off on the right side of the fence when they quote suspect facts, is sadly lacking..

You seem to consider yourself to be some kind of political watch dog,yet you rarely if ever attack GW Bush or his buddy McCain..


As far as posturing you ,I really could care less about you and who you are...I find you to be some one who brags about themself and needs,for some reason,to be the hero..As far as facts go,unfortunatly they are lost here in ranchers as so many of the conservative members here lean towards perception rather then fact,as in most cases,perception sells so much stronger then fact...It is a shame but facts will often take a backseat in this political arena ..In here the republican spinners can be faced with facts,yet they wiould almost sell thier soul's to spin it..

I am sure your knowledge is vast and well documented on the walls of your parents basement,and thats awesome for you..I just find those who continually quote thier own work to be a tad narcisitic and unable to learn anything outside thier own thoughts....Almost like a schizophrenic whos voice only talks to them about them..I am in no way suggesting that you suffer from any mental illness...

You of course have read up,studied hard and are a sharp critical thinker,so really,I am not telling you anything you did not already know for yourself......

Of course this is only my opinion,solely based from the little I have bothered to read of your postings.....I find you boring,and repeatative,but I again,Iam sure you knew that already too...Have a wonderful day....


PS. When your done patting yourself on the back others may try to get a hand in,but honestly,not many have that kind of time to wait around for an opening.lol....best of luck with that...
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...

Why can't you libs ever square up and prove the guy wrong on ANYTHING?
 

Vision

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...

Why can't you libs ever square up and prove the guy wrong on ANYTHING?

I am beginning to believe that nonothing has a serious reading comprehension problem. ....MY venom towards ALICE.... ummm he needs to start reading threads ..... Of course he will just lie anyways if he did read them..../sigh.

It is amazing how many people here had parents who just didnt teach them to tell the truth.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
Vision,

It is kind of like Geroge Foreman boxing against a 5th grader for many of the libs. They are being led off of a cliff and the media is in on it big time.

Alice does not quote some editiorial lib crap in EVERYTHING she responds to. She straight up tells you how she feels. I admire that. I also admire what she does with children.

I despised the liberal views of Molly Ivins and suffered through her for several years. I hated the lady. Molly only did one positive thing that I ever remember. Mostly she drove a wedge between us all. Alice was one of her fans. I never knew a Molly fan until I got acquainted with Alice through the forum.

Most of the folks you engage in dialog with here at not all that bright, if you haven't figured that out.

I can accept Alice and I pay attention to her words. They are her words and not someone else's.
 

Vision

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
Vision,

It is kind of like Geroge Foreman boxing against a 5th grader for many of the libs. They are being led off of a cliff and the media is in on it big time.

Alice does not quote some editiorial lib crap in EVERYTHING she responds to. She straight up tells you how she feels. I admire that. I also admire what she does with children.

I despised the liberal views of Molly Ivins and suffered through her for several years. I hated the lady. Molly only did one positive thing that I ever remember. Mostly she drove a wedge between us all. Alice was one of her fans. I never knew a Molly fan until I got acquainted with Alice through the forum.

Most of the folks you engage in dialog with here at not all that bright, if you haven't figured that out.

I can accept Alice and I pay attention to her words. They are her words and not someone else's.

The Molly Ivans thing explains a great deal, she was a divider who made up the facts as she went. Radio hosts used to use her columns for comic relief because it was so easy to tear them apart with a few minutes of research.

You may be right that most of the people who I engage in are not that bright, but the people who sit on the side lines and post occasionally ARE.

There are some VERY smart people who come here, most of them only post from time to time but when they do it is obvious that they have a certain wisdom.

Seriously the average groundskeeper, rancher or farmer has greater critical thinking skills than most journalists, and liberal arts profesors by far. They may not be as "educated", but if you gave them all the facts on both sides of an issue, the groundskeeper is going to make wiser and sounder decisions than a PhD.

Bill Buckley once said that he would rather be governed by the first 2000 names in the phonebook than the faculty at Harvard. How right he was.

Character and the condition of ones spirit has a great deal to do with their critical thinking skills. Most people in the professions I mentioned such as Ranchers, Groundskeepers and such have good character and good spirit.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
Vision said:
Seriously the average groundskeeper, rancher or farmer has greater critical thinking skills than most journalists, and liberal arts profesors by far. They may not be as "educated", but if you gave them all the facts on both sides of an issue, the groundskeeper is going to make wiser and sounder decisions than a PhD.

Average folks deal with the real issues from day to day. They understand the bottom line and they understand making ends meet. They are innovative because they have to be.

At the same time many of them don't sit down to computers and they have no technical writing skills to effectively communicate their experiences.

Then there is the media manipulation. You've seen it and you know what I speak of
 

RobertMac

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
Vision said:
Seriously the average groundskeeper, rancher or farmer has greater critical thinking skills than most journalists, and liberal arts profesors by far. They may not be as "educated", but if you gave them all the facts on both sides of an issue, the groundskeeper is going to make wiser and sounder decisions than a PhD.

Average folks deal with the real issues from day to day. They understand the bottom line and they understand making ends meet. They are innovative because they have to be.

At the same time many of them don't sit down to computers and they have no technical writing skills to effectively communicate their experiences.

Then there is the media manipulation. You've seen it and you know what I speak of

Vision, there's the reason there aren't more PhDs that are farmers/ranchers!

Boogie, most folks are totally unaware of the media manipulation...look at OT!!! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Vision said:
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...

Why can't you libs ever square up and prove the guy wrong on ANYTHING?

I am beginning to believe that nonothing has a serious reading comprehension problem. ....MY venom towards ALICE.... ummm he needs to start reading threads ..... Of course he will just lie anyways if he did read them..../sigh.

It is amazing how many people here had parents who just didnt teach them to tell the truth.

First of all you said.....

I do not spread hate or spew venom at people who's only "offense" is to bring superior knowledge, preperation and ideas to the conversation

I figured you where talking about Alice as the person in this quote as having superior knowledge ,preperation and ideas to the conversation..Nobody could be that arrogant talking about themselves right? So I gathered that you meant Alice..As far as your spewing goes,of course you spew,as I said before if you challenged all those here you would at least gain respect,your spweing is just more like taunting ....but all you do is challenge one side and let the otherside away with what ever they decide to say...

Since you never touched on many of the things I brought up in my last post, I shall take that as you agreed with most of it....however you sir also seem to have a problem with comprhension for had you been able to read you would of noticed that I had already told you how little i read of your posts....instead you decided to call me a liar....I have not lied to you once...

Of course this is only my opinion,solely based from the little I have bothered to read of your postings.....I find you boring,and repeatative,but I again,Iam sure you knew that already too...Have a wonderful day....

So to call me a liar for something I already admitted to,makes you look stupid...but I am not calling you stupid,I am just saying that on that piont you came across as stupid....

It is amazing how some people here had parents so mean and nasty that they forced thier child to build up a hero like mentality,well,more like a scared narcicist.So that they could one day come to a conservative web site and spew anti liberal venom,and have all the folks cheer them on..but of course your so smart you already knew all this.....
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...

Why can't you libs ever square up and prove the guy wrong on ANYTHING?


I could care less if the guy is right or wrong...You can precieve all his spews as victories I could again care less.the good news for you sandhusker is, when Obama wins the race,you and your new found buddy can cry in your koolaid together....
 

Sandhusker

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nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
Good lets see if you can now stop yourself vision...Your such a drama queen vision...why not try manning up ....grow a sac and get on with your life..Look at it this way,you get one vote and alice gets one vote...so really,your vote no longer counts...Yes before you pop off ,your right,alices wont count either...

Why can't you libs ever square up and prove the guy wrong on ANYTHING?


I could care less if the guy is right or wrong...You can precieve all his spews as victories I could again care less.the good news for you sandhusker is, when Obama wins the race,you and your new found buddy can cry in your koolaid together....

You just said it for all of you libs here; You don't care what is right and what is wrong. In no way will you let facts get in the way of your opinion.
 

Vision

Well-known member
Ok No nothing, I will take you at your word and give you the benefit of the doubt.

Now let me give you a little piece of history.

From my first post here and almost every post after, Alice has attcked me with almost every allegation in the book. After trying to talk reason with her for a while ai realized that she was a person who is mired by hate, so I started mocking her some, now I realize that she is ill, so I am not mocking her so brazenly any more. It is just that simple.
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
Why can't you libs ever square up and prove the guy wrong on ANYTHING?


I could care less if the guy is right or wrong...You can precieve all his spews as victories I could again care less.the good news for you sandhusker is, when Obama wins the race,you and your new found buddy can cry in your koolaid together....

You just said it for all of you libs here; You don't care what is right and what is wrong. In no way will you let facts get in the way of your opinion.

Yep GW Bush proved that good leadership and a strong presidency can be done with out telling a single lie.....I am sure McCain would follow in that same method of leadership..As for you sandhusker,believe what you want,your not able to step outside your own republican party chioces and see them for what they are......So please enjoy your day knowing that everything a lib says is a lie and only a conservative will tell you the real truth......Just ask GW,he would tell you the same thing.......LOL

Ps unlike you I only speak for myself .the rest of the libs will have to come here and lie for themselfs....LOL
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Vision said:
Ok No nothing, I will take you at your word and give you the benefit of the doubt.

Now let me give you a little piece of history.

From my first post here and almost every post after, Alice has attcked me with almost every allegation in the book. After trying to talk reason with her for a while ai realized that she was a person who is mired by hate, so I started mocking her some, now I realize that she is ill, so I am not mocking her so brazenly any more. It is just that simple.

Your a saint and I am sure there is a place for you in heaven....That is of course if you try not telling God how much better you could do his job when you get there.....lol..
 
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