I doubt there was ever a "cattle venture", I'm betting that the Liberal lurkers PM'd Oldtimer and told him that he was about to get his butt kicked trying to defend Obama and if he knew what was good for himself he better make up a good story worthy of Obama and get out of town before the news of the IRS and the DOJ scandals broke, the Benghazi Whistle blowers proved the Obama Administration LIED through their pearly whites, the FBI and Homeland Security ignored warning of the Boston Bomber, and Sebilius is conning Private companies to illegally pay to implement Obamacare.
I'm sure Reader still has contacts and had to have heard from somebody that knows somebody that talked to somebody that heard the rumors around DC even if Obama hadn't hurt them. :wink: