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"If You Like Your Plan, You Can Keep Your Plan"

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Steve said:
to bad all the lies were covered up until it was to late ..

No one bothered to read the bill ...

Going back, I remember Alice arguing about what was and wasn't in the bill. You could actually quote the bill and she still wouldn't believe you.

Bet she does now, or will soon.

:D
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
to bad all the lies were covered up until it was to late ..

No one bothered to read the bill ...

Going back, I remember Alice arguing about what was and wasn't in the bill. You could actually quote the bill and she still wouldn't believe you.

Bet she does now, or will soon.

:D

Alice, another forum casuality of the Obama Administration. :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Whitewing said:
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
to bad all the lies were covered up until it was to late ..

No one bothered to read the bill ...

Going back, I remember Alice arguing about what was and wasn't in the bill. You could actually quote the bill and she still wouldn't believe you.

Bet she does now, or will soon.

:D

Alice, another forum casuality of the Obama Administration. :lol:

I thought you too would be gone, after embarrassing yourself, as you did.

:p
 

Traveler

Well-known member
His plan was to eliminate your plan, and now some repubs are working on a bill to keep your plan. I'm sure dear leader and his commie minions will hate that, too. Of course, they're only replacing old plans with new plans that offer more protections. What a crock of shi*

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/29/pols-push-keep-your-health-plan-act-as-files-show-govt-knew-millions-could-lose/
 

Steve

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just when you think you heard it all...

Carney: No, Obama Didn’t Lie…It’s YOUR Fault You Can’t Keep Your Health Care Plan

According to Carney, insurers bear the responsibility for disappointment with the president’s statements:

apparently they didn't have to follow the law either... and could have just ignored the parts they didn't like,.. just like the President has...


I think I understand how it works...

Obama didn't force YOU to change your plan,..

instead the ACA just listed new requirements the insurance plans had to include and exclude,..

and since your plan was inadequate.. the insurance dropped you... to comply with the law..

so it is your fault ...

did I miss something? Why can't I understand this liberal logic?
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
So the reasoning is that some plans weren't good enough, so they had to be discontinued right?

Why were the Cadillac plans discontinue? Remember those? I apparently had one. Never was denied coverage on anything ever, and didn't have to have a referral. Mine was on of the first to get axed.

This is all BS and lies. By the way, anyone remember kola saying the new plans were cheaper for her indentured servants. Wouldn't you just love to see the real story.
 

Tam

Well-known member
A Democrap Jackazz Congressman was just on Kelly files and claiming Obama didn't lie as it is the Insurance companies that are canceling policies that cover nothing and cost to much and they can't sell them now that Obamacare exchanges will be offering them better coverage at a cheap rate. :shock: :roll:

I have a few questions.

First where in the he** has this guy been?

Obama said those liking their policies could KEEP them there was no "but only if" that followed the "you can keep it" comment coming out of Obama lying mouth.

Second if the insurance companies are not selling those policies why are people crying foul about Obama lying about THEM KEEPING THEM? Wouldn't those having those policies just move on and buy something else if it was true the Insurance Companies were UNABLE TO SELL THOSE CHEAP POLICIES?

Third even Kristen Powers a lover of Obamacare admitted Obama was not telling the true as she lost her policy and the only policy she can get costs a lot more than the policy SHE PICKED FOR HERSELF. So where are these better policies at cheaper rates for every one of the 14 million that will lose their chosen policies?

Fourth, did any of you see the idiot on The Kelly File he stood there laughing while lying through his teeth about Insurance canceling policies that they couldn't sell.

Now James Carvel is on Hannity trying to defend Obama's lie about keeping your plan by saying just because some people call a policy a policy doesn't make it one. And according to him if you don't have certain things in your policy then it is not a policy and you should be forced to get one with GOVERNMENT REQUIRED COVERAGE. whether it cost you twice as much as you can afford or not.
ANd like the first idiot on Kelly defending Obama, Carvel was laughing which just makes him look like a bald head moron. :roll:
 

jigs

Well-known member
I got a letter from Blue cross of Kansas yesterday. said my company insurance plan did not meet govt specs and the entire group I belonged to was being dropped. looks like it is gonna be pricey from here on out!
 

jcummins

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Whitewing said:
hypocritexposer said:
Going back, I remember Alice arguing about what was and wasn't in the bill. You could actually quote the bill and she still wouldn't believe you.

Bet she does now, or will soon.

:D

Alice, another forum casuality of the Obama Administration. :lol:

I thought you too would be gone, after embarrassing yourself, as you did.

:p


Remembering Alice. .......... Phffffffftt
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
jigs said:
I got a letter from Blue cross of Kansas yesterday. said my company insurance plan did not meet govt specs and the entire group I belonged to was being dropped. looks like it is gonna be pricey from here on out!

Did provide too much coverage or was the premium and deductible not going to drive you into poverty?
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
jigs said:
I got a letter from Blue cross of Kansas yesterday. said my company insurance plan did not meet govt specs and the entire group I belonged to was being dropped. looks like it is gonna be pricey from here on out!

Do you like your plan, jigs? If yes, then relax. The King told you clearly that if you liked your plan, you could keep your plan. And we all know The King is as trustworthy as OT.
 

gmacbeef

Well-known member
I can't believe all of you ! What you don't understand is what he REALLY meant when he said" you can keep your plan" was ................Jay Carney. They must think all of us are retarded. :evil:
 

Steve

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Obama Officials: "93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare"

Obamacare’s disruption of the existing health insurance market—a disruption codified in law, and known to the administration—is only just beginning. And it’s far broader than recent media coverage has implied.

Obama administration knew that Obamacare would disrupt private plans

If you read the Affordable Care Act when it was passed, you knew that it was dishonest for President Obama to claim that “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan,” as he did—and continues to do—on countless occasions. And we now know that the administration knew this all along. It turns out that in an obscure report buried in a June 2010 edition of the Federal Register, administration officials predicted massive disruption of the private insurance market.

Mid-range estimate: 51% of employer-sponsored plans will get canceled

“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal.

Another 25 million people, according to the CBO, have “nongroup and other” forms of insurance; that is to say, they participate in the market for individually-purchased insurance. In this market, the administration projected that “40 to 67 percent” of individually-purchased plans would lose their Obamacare-sanctioned “grandfather status” and become illegal, solely due to the fact that there is a high turnover of participants and insurance arrangements in this market.

How many people are exposed to these problems? 60 percent of Americans have private-sector health insurance—precisely the number that Jay Carney dismissed. As to the number of people facing cancellations, 51 percent of the employer-based market plus 53.5 percent of the non-group market (the middle of the administration’s range) amounts to 93 million Americans.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/
 

Traveler

Well-known member
Any doubts that this isn't just a big step toward their ultimate goal of socialized medicine? Will the widespread "government save me" attitude let this prevail?
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
Traveler said:
Any doubts that this isn't just a big step toward their ultimate goal of socialized medicine? Will the widespread "government save me" attitude let this prevail?

KingKare will bankrupt the insurance industry if this insanity isn't stopped and stopped soon.

Doesn't matter if you're a couple in your mid 50's and you're pleased with your current coverage. Wait. No maternity coverage in your plan? Well then, your insurance company is a bad apple and your plan is substandard. So, your plan is cancelled, and now you must pay for a more expensive plan designed by gubmint bureaucrats.

Who's going to turn to KingKare for salvation? The very people who run premiums up for everyone else. Who's supposed to bail out the insurance companies for covering these high risk clients? The young folks who rarely get ill.

Problem is, young Americans have the option of paying a small penalty for not joining the plan or paying higher premiums now....versus a new car, a vacation, partying, etc. Get sick? No problem, just join up because KingKare can't turn me down. Now, I'm spunging off those who pay for stuff they don't need, just the way the system was designed.

It's insane and will ultimately result in what they wanted from the beginning....single payer.
 
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