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nonothing

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What would be your top 5 priorities be if you became president of USA,listed from most important to least,and explain a little why....

Who would be your VP?

What would be your VP's number one job be?




I am just curious to see some Ideas I wont judge anyone or get combative,I am just interested to see what the folks who visit the political page really feel about the direction they would like to see things go...
 

Cal

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Make sure military compensation, equipment, and support of mission is up to par.

Secure the southern border

Drill in Anwar....and everywhere else for that matter, while encouraging the building if new refineries and greatly reducing the number of gasoline blends.

Create School Vouchers

Reform Social Security, cutting drastically what's paid in and using it mainly as a safety net for the impoverished.

Oh come on...one more! Make health care more open to the free market.


VP: Roger Hedgecock

VP's number one job; PR.
 

cutterone

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VP - Richard Lugar

What a VP is suppost to do

Give orders to Milary Commanders to put together a plan for immediate and perminate withdrawl of all troops and closing of bases everywhere except in Iraq, Kuwait, and Afganistan.

Once troops are brought home - close and deploy troops on the Mexican border, denounce the NAFTA treaty with countries except Canada and establish a fair treaty policy favoring the US. For American based companies bring goods in, those goods would become as foriegn. Release a statement that after a 30 day grace period any illegal imigrant caught by a dragnet of the troops brought home will be formally be charged, deported and will never be granted legal statis, a temporary work permit and any child born here by illegals will not be granted citizenship.

Send legislation for extreem downsizing of the IRS and tax reform, line item veto, lobby reform, farm bill reform, term legislation, border and imigration reform, and let it be known that each and every congressman from either party will be exposed for ear marks and failure to comply with above legislation.

Throw the UN out, stop all financial assistance and turn that building into business offices.

Let it be known to every terrorist nation that swift and extreem retaliation with "the bomb", no ground troops, if they screw with us!
 

jigs

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First step I take is to make English the ONLY language, and END bi lingual education. can't speak it? go back to Mexico and take English classes!




1. a commander in Iraq and one in Afganistan, with the understanding that they will fight it from there. no Washington B.S. just go win it, and do what needs done.

2. save this county. secure the borders, flat tax, end the death tax, deport all illegals, station troops on the border to prove our seriousness. release regs on refining oil, and punch a million new holes for local oil.

3.shut down the EPA, AFLCIO, NAACP, and PETA. BUST THE FRIGGING UNIONS!

4. remove ALL retirement and compensation plans from current and former congressmen and senators. end lobbyists and the greed that goes with it.

5 promote a corporate tax break that kicks in for a company which does not outsource over seas.




as a VP.....Ron Paul

his job, run the country when I am shot by some idiot, because if elected, I am not pandering to ANYONE. gonna speak my mind, and to hell with them if they don't like it.
 

katrina

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I want steve for president and all cabinet positions filled by ranchernet people. VP would be his choice from ranchers.
 
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nonothing said:
What would be your top 5 priorities be if you became president of USA,listed from most important to least,and explain a little why....

#1- Close the border tight-enforce the immigration laws-- bringing home many troops to do it if necessary and let them work with Homeland Security tracking down and removing all the illegal invaders/terrorists already in the country....

#2 Sit down with Iraqui goverment- grab them by the shorthairs and explain to them that every dime we put into their sandpit from now on- comes back to the US taxpayer in free oil- and will continue to until we get all our investment back....If GW and Cheney can be in the oil business- why can't the rest of us be.....If we have to have troops there- they might as well be guarding our US taxpayers owned oil fields- rather than Halliburtons oilfields....

#3 Stick my V.P to coming up with a plan to cure the economy - knowing full well that he believes in FAIR trade and not FREE Trade that these idiots have bankrupt us with...This would include tax breaks for any incountry business's and products- and extra tax breaks for business with less than 100 employees to stimulate small local business's.

#4 Major health care reform- starting with tort reform limiting damages for negligence and changing the amount of cause and definition that needs to be shown to prove negligence- allow (FDA inspected) prescription drugs to be purchased in other countries- nationally negotiated drug prices- require that if a company is going to provide insurance that they must cover anyone seeking it no matter what prior health care record at an affordable rate- and cannot be dropped because of any illness...Tax breaks for companies providing insurance- subsidies to guarantee all insurance is affordable to everyone on an ability to pay....

#5 Change the national election/lobbying laws- that no government official may take any gratuity (including campaign contribution-trips- meals- coffee) from any person or group ( the Montana version)...All trips would have to come out of a Congressmans budget- and when the moneys gone- tough...Campaigns would be funded from a $1 surcharge added to everyones tax-- divided equally between Congressmen, Senatorial, and Presidential candidates....Should shorten up campaigns by about a year and make for less sickening speechs on TV......

Who would be your VP?

Lou Dobbs- who formerly was a Republican, but got as sick of the new neocon Republican party in the last few years as I did- and now considers himself an Independent...He is also an economist and has taught economics- and shares my beliefs that wide open unrestricted trade is wrecking our economy- and that we need FAIR trade instead of FREE trade- and that importing a new semislave class of people thru the illegal immingrants is wrong.....

What would be your VP's number one job be?
His primary job would be to handle the economy- and keep the government from being in the Corporate/Lobbyists pocketbooks.....But I'm sure as passionate as he is about our southern border invasion, I'd let him come down on the border with me and share a little target practice on a Ma Deuce persuading the illegal invaders that any invasion attempts may be hazardous to their health......



I am just curious to see some Ideas I wont judge anyone or get combative,I am just interested to see what the folks who visit the political page really feel about the direction they would like to see things go...
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
1. Kick the U.N. out of the U.S. after resigning from it.

2. Start a task force and whistle blowers program to report anyone that hires, rents, or hides an illegal immigrant no matter if they are from the south, north, east or west. 3 strikes and you do mandatory Jail time. Also a 3 strike rule if you get caught in America illegally on third strike you do 10 years in prison no parole.

3. Outsource our prisons to Russia, Turkey or China. If you get caught on a violent crime you go to an outsourced prison. If you get caught her illegally you go to outsourced prison.

4. Cut taxes, especially corporate tax rates which are the highest in the world next to Japan. Build economic confidence withing bussinesses they are the ones that provide jobs. Have a reverse progressive tax break that rewards those that are successful not punish them. Do away with death tax.

5. Energy bill, denounce global warming as the hoax and big business it is. Push more refineries through, more nuke energy plants, denounce ethanol and bio diesel and remove all money incentives for it. Drill of the shores and in ANWR. Standardized gasoline blends nationally.

6. Increase our presence on the Syrian and Iranian borders of Iraq, give the soldiers the rights to take their weapons off safety and get the job done....see Jigs #1 action for more details.


VP.....Jigs that way there is a VP people would hate more than me and would think twice of shooting me due to who would replace me.

His job would be to oversee Illegal immigration plans and War on terror.

And take the fall for me if Heather Locklear gets caught sneaking out of the white house :lol:
 

Steve

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Katrina said:
I want Steve for president and all cabinet positions filled by ranchernet people. VP would be his choice from ranchers.

Thanks for the nomination... I hadn't intended on running...

I'll look at the opposition's issues later when I have more time and respond to them...

as for a VP... it had better be some one who knows what they are doing.... as I would more then likely only put up with the Washington politicians for about one term...
 

Steve

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Cutterone
Give orders to Milary Commanders to put together a plan for immediate and perminate withdrawl of all troops and closing of bases everywhere except in Iraq, Kuwait, and Afganistan.

unfortunately most of our foreign bases are for our strategic global positioning...

they are set up to give US an advantage of first response from our enemies... and not have the first battles on our shores...

in the past when we have lost those land based assets we have had to take great measures (at great cost) to forward deploy them on Navy and commercial afloat cargo and heavy lift ships..

It was most seen when Turkey didn't allow overflight of the troops needed to enter Iraq from the north...

the equipment,.. and troops were stranded on a ship... and not able to enter the battle..

so instead of a blanket withdrawal,.. I would make sure that every agreement was to our advantage,.. and not just a payback for their lukewarm treatment of US..
 

MoGal

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I have to agree with some others....

VP: Ron Paul or Lou Dobbs

1) Economy: Do away with the federal reserve. Put the American people in charge and the USA would receive the interest from money loaned to banks. Also this needs to be backed by a basket of goods (gold, silver, metal and grain) so that no one person could control or buy up the basket. Terminate all free trade agreements and instill fair trade, no deficits between countries or at least for this country, no deficits. STOP the Japanese carry trade which has caused this current fiasco we have losing trillions of dollars. The Glass Steagall Act which Clinton repealed would be reinstated plus banking regulations and stock market regulations. Once we started receiving interest from our own currency, we could build up the economy, providing good paying jobs, rebuild our infrastructure, have cost of living raises based upon inflation of food, energy and actual items used on a daily basis. Stop illegal alien babies from automatically being a citizen. Stop all illegal alien government aid and assistance.


2) Foreign Assistance: Get out of the UN and providing ANY financial aid to other countries. This only transfers wealth of the middle class to the poorer countries wealthiest (who do not pass it on to their people). No more of this global government crap and giving up sovereignty or rights of the USA and its citizens.

3)Military: Bring home all troups except the Middle East. I'd want some honest reporting to find out what Iran, Iraq, and whomever else is actually doing that would/could terrorize the USA and if they legitimately have something, there would be a timeline and if they didn't meet it.... we'd go from one end to the other just like McArthur tried to do in North Korea before the MP's took him out. We have no business being over there just so Haliburton and Lockheed can become trillionaires and to build oil pipelines to Israel. Its time for the European Union, Korea, Japan, Vietnam and whereever else we are have to provide their own military. We will protect our borders and everything in the USA. This would also include placing military on ALL borders to secure our people from terrorists, drugs, and illegal aliens.

4) Taxes... Anyone making less than $150,000 year would not owe taxes. Go after companies and individuals who have parked $13 trillion in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda to prevent paying taxes. Stop dual citizenship. Then Bill and HIllary will have to decide if they want Ireland or American citizenship as well as the Bushes and their German passports.

5) Congress.... remove their pension and put them ALL (past and present) under social security. Fastest way to fix it..... No congressional person can accept lobbyist money. You were elected to serve the people and that is your priority.

As a president, I would go to the people anytime I faced resistance from Congress explain why we need this passed and what the consequences are and let them pressure their Congressional leaders to get it passed or not.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
MoGal said:
4) Taxes... Anyone making less than $150,000 year would not owe taxes. Go after companies and individuals who have parked $13 trillion in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda to prevent paying taxes. Stop dual citizenship. Then Bill and HIllary will have to decide if they want Ireland or American citizenship as well as the Bushes and their German passports.

So do these people making $149,000 have to drive dirt roads, home school their children, never use the fire department or police department? Or are you proposing that they just get a free ride in life and those making more than $150,000 pay their way for them. If so remind me to never go out and eat with you, you would most likely expect me to pay your part of the ticket.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
nonothing said:
What would be your top 5 priorities be if you became president of USA,listed from most important to least,and explain a little why....

Who would be your VP?

What would be your VP's number one job be?

You want to share the same info with us if you became Prime Minister of Canada?
 

nonothing

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
What would be your top 5 priorities be if you became president of USA,listed from most important to least,and explain a little why....

Who would be your VP?

What would be your VP's number one job be?

You want to share the same info with us if you became Prime Minister of Canada?

Sure


1a) learn to speak french better then I do now.... :wink: :)


1b) I would fix the justice system...

- Any immigrant that breaks a law here would be immediately deported.
- All prisons would be given half the budget they get now and will have
to find the rest of their needed money through work projects.
- All police/prison guards will be given higher wage increases.
- Rid our country of the young offenders act,have juveniles do hard
labor,chain gangs lead by strong military type leadership.
- Charge prisoners or their families for laundry and shelter. Also for all
damages caused by their child if still a juvi..
- Have predetermined sentences for victimless crimes..
- Allow only one appeal request....
- bring back the death penaltiy for anyone who is convicted of
premeditated murder,rape or any kind of child endangerment..

2) To build upon our health care mantra that all canadians have the right
to and expectation of top quality health care..

- Hire more nurses and create more bed space.
-Create a system where doctors have incentives to work in small towns
one month a year. Giving quality health care to all of canada through
monetary incentives and a feeling that they are not held in one spot
unless it becomes their wish to stay in that community..That way.
small communities will have doctors in their local area 12 months
a year...
- To tax each person an equal 5% of their earnings as their cost of
medical ins. including welfare recipients...up to 5,000.00 cap...
- With the savings i create from prison reform this should be attainable

3) Education,to create a system that is more about our children's
educational and learning environment and less about teachers unions and pills that control so called bad behavior.

- Bring in mandatory testing for teachers every five years...If our
teaching professionals have gotten stale they need to be reenergized..
-Work towards a new public school curriculum that inspires trust,
confidence and hope to all those who have lost that now..
- Make schools safe from crime and promote after school programs
not just sports but other avenues that kids will find entertaining.
- institute a program from pre school to graduation that promotes
healthy living...exercise and moderation with diet and strong anti
drug program..
- All student loans given to young canadian college students shall be
paid back with no interest.

4) Make All government assistance count towards a better life for each
healthy recipient...

- Make mental illness a top priority and get those that need help
the proper help.
- make all drug offences require detoxation,and life time testing. If
tested and fail,you go for one more attempt at getting clean,if that
fails jail time will become a requirement....
- Welfare will be earned and treated more respectively,those that
can prosper with a little help will be given that help.
- training will be given but expected to be paid back (without interest)
after each recipient enters the employment sector..
- Children will be given number one priority as all families who fall
on bad times should be helped not judged..
- Companies that hire assistance users will be eligible for tax
breaks.
- All users will be expected to enroll in training programs
immediately upon receiving assistance...


5) To visit Afghanistan and find out how big a role we need to be
there. To make a decision that involves so many lives without
truly seeing some of the military faces and listen to their words
would be less then prudent..


Governer General...Rick Hansen.

minister of sports..... "The Honorable" Northern rancher.
minister of health....."The Honorable" Mrs. greg....
minister of AG......"The Honorable" Mr.Greg..
Minister of fish and game....."The Honorable" Angus cattle shower..


ps...All other Canadians who are looking to be added to my cabnit
please apply .... :wink: :)
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
nonothing you almost sounded like a conservative at times there on your list :shock:

that was a productive post, we got to see a little more about your country and how you think politically instead of how we should do things :clap:
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
nonothing said:
aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
What would be your top 5 priorities be if you became president of USA,listed from most important to least,and explain a little why....

Who would be your VP?

What would be your VP's number one job be?

You want to share the same info with us if you became Prime Minister of Canada?

Sure


1a) learn to speak french better then I do now.... :wink: :)


1b) I would fix the justice system...

- Any immigrant that breaks a law here would be immediately deported.
- All prisons would be given half the budget they get now and will have
to find the rest of their needed money through work projects.
- All police/prison guards will be given higher wage increases.
- Rid our country of the young offenders act,have juveniles do hard
labor,chain gangs lead by strong military type leadership.
- Charge prisoners or their families for laundry and shelter. Also for all
damages caused by their child if still a juvi..
- Have predetermined sentences for victimless crimes..
- Allow only one appeal request....
- bring back the death penaltiy for anyone who is convicted of
premeditated murder,rape or any kind of child endangerment..

2) To build upon our health care mantra that all canadians have the right
to and expectation of top quality health care..

- Hire more nurses and create more bed space.
-Create a system where doctors have incentives to work in small towns
one month a year. Giving quality health care to all of canada through
monetary incentives and a feeling that they are not held in one spot
unless it becomes their wish to stay in that community..That way.
small communities will have doctors in their local area 12 months
a year...
- To tax each person an equal 5% of their earnings as their cost of
medical ins. including welfare recipients...up to 5,000.00 cap...
- With the savings i create from prison reform this should be attainable

3) Education,to create a system that is more about our children's
educational and learning environment and less about teachers unions and pills that control so called bad behavior.

- Bring in mandatory testing for teachers every five years...If our
teaching professionals have gotten stale they need to be reenergized..
-Work towards a new public school curriculum that inspires trust,
confidence and hope to all those who have lost that now..
- Make schools safe from crime and promote after school programs
not just sports but other avenues that kids will find entertaining.
- institute a program from pre school to graduation that promotes
healthy living...exercise and moderation with diet and strong anti
drug program..
- All student loans given to young canadian college students shall be
paid back with no interest.

4) Make All government assistance count towards a better life for each
healthy recipient...

- Make mental illness a top priority and get those that need help
the proper help.
- make all drug offences require detoxation,and life time testing. If
tested and fail,you go for one more attempt at getting clean,if that
fails jail time will become a requirement....
- Welfare will be earned and treated more respectively,those that
can prosper with a little help will be given that help.
- training will be given but expected to be paid back (without interest)
after each recipient enters the employment sector..
- Children will be given number one priority as all families who fall
on bad times should be helped not judged..
- Companies that hire assistance users will be eligible for tax
breaks.
- All users will be expected to enroll in training programs
immediately upon receiving assistance...


5) To visit Afghanistan and find out how big a role we need to be
there. To make a decision that involves so many lives without
truly seeing some of the military faces and listen to their words
would be less then prudent..


Governer General...Rick Hansen.

minister of sports..... "The Honorable" Northern rancher.
minister of health....."The Honorable" Mrs. greg....
minister of AG......"The Honorable" Mr.Greg..
Minister of fish and game....."The Honorable" Angus cattle shower..


ps...All other Canadians who are looking to be added to my cabnit
please apply .... :wink: :)
And the Americans say your a liberal thinker :D Great post,great thoughts....except maybe I should be minister of defence cause it seems like here in political I'm always on the 'defence" :) Rick Hansen....perfect :!:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Nonothing, question on your health care. What would you do so people do not have to wait so long for care at times? Or to encourage better doctors and more better equiped hospitals? Would you allow people to have private insurance if they wished?

I might be wrong but I was thinking you are not allowed to pay cash to doctors or provide your own insurance something of that sort. That Canadians must use the Governments plan only. Please correct me on this if I am off. And if I am right what would you do about this.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Nonothing, question on your health care. What would you do so people do not have to wait so long for care at times? Or to encourage better doctors and more better equiped hospitals? Would you allow people to have private insurance if they wished?

I might be wrong but I was thinking you are not allowed to pay cash to doctors or provide your own insurance something of that sort. That Canadians must use the Governments plan only. Please correct me on this if I am off. And if I am right what would you do about this.
 

nonothing

Well-known member
My goal if I was in charge would be I guess you could call it a combination affect...for instance....I think combining elementary schools with old age homes saves on cost...I like the idea of a school on one end and a assisted living home for the elderly on the other,..with a neutral area in the middle. such as a playground,library and gym. this way the old and young can mingle. the kids could learn to read books while reading to the older folks. the older folks could watch or get involved with the kids as they play or learn.....and if they want to not be involved they still have the quiet side that is for them only....I would combine prisons that are surrounded by warehouses,I would rent each warehouse to customers that need the storage and use that money to run or at least help pay for the prison itself...It does not have to be warehouse,it could be recycling plants or a garbage sorting plant,anything that can make money that allows tax dollars to not be spent on prison....I would use all ceased profits of crime to pay for crime prevention....

I would create tax breaks for companies that help there communities. I would like to see community centers be built which do more then stay open for recreation....they can be shelters as well as just basketball courts...companies that pay for the heat or lighting or staffing of such places would be able to use those costs as write offs....I would meet with organization that are successful in running infrastructures that help the communities of our country through donations and volunteering .While finding out how they become so successful and then implement some of their Ideals....I would bring back volunteering as we are a proud nation of volunteers and ask all canadians to volunteer at some level,our country was built of the volunteer system and that system helps ALL with the only cost being a relatively small piece of their time...I realize not all Canadians will get on board with that, but those that do,will help Canada be a strong nation within itself...

I will also give out limited grants to fund business big or small...I will again give out tax breaks to those that do lend moneys to those that want to start a small business...So if Aplus has extra cash and wants to lend to someone to start up a small business he can do so and not only receive interest back on his loan but also he will receive a tax break as well. Do not get to excited Aplus,you will still have to pay some taxes somewhere along the way...Companies will be given incentives to train people at their cost...

My sole goal in combine more and tax incentive proposals I should save enough money to rebuild our neglected medical system...I will also give out tax breaks to those that support their community hospitals by buying new machines or sponsoring a doctors or nurses yearly pay...I think if companies make a profit from their communities paying a small percentage back through a philanthropy way,should be somewhat rewarded..

Through tax incentives,prison cost reforms,strong cuts to grants,stopping those who abuse the medical system and community volunteering.I think those are the answers towards reinstating our health care system to the strong one it once was.....

As far as paying cash for medical service I do believe it is being done through private health care facilities....
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
Nonothing, question on your health care. What would you do so people do not have to wait so long for care at times? Or to encourage better doctors and more better equiped hospitals? Would you allow people to have private insurance if they wished?

I might be wrong but I was thinking you are not allowed to pay cash to doctors or provide your own insurance something of that sort. That Canadians must use the Governments plan only. Please correct me on this if I am off. And if I am right what would you do about this.
There are a large number of private clinics that is user pays,nothing to do with the healthcare system.
The waiting times are getting longer in rural Alta. for one reason and one only,overworked Dr's. We need incentives to bring more Dr's ruraly,so all the Dr's get a decent amount of time off.Towns in our areas provide housing for Dr's if they chose the area and a few other perks to entice them to the rural areas.
The Dr's we have in our county are beyong excellent well trained Dr's. There could more equipment like ultrasound equipment for sure. But I imagine its no different in your area Aplus.I'm pretty proud of our healthcare system,its not perfect but its alot closer then a large number of countries are providing
 

Mike

Well-known member
Canada. What of the Canadian National Health System, which many U.S. politicians are now championing as a less expensive and more efficient alternative to our supposed free market system?

Canada has had socialized medicine for 20 years, and the same pattern of deteriorating facilities, overburdened doctors, and long hospital waiting lists is clear. A quarter of a million Canadians (out of a population of only 26 million) are now on waiting lists for surgery. The average waiting period for elective surgery is four years. Women wait up to five months for Pap smears and eight months for mammograms. Since 1987, the entire country spent less money on hospital improvements than the city of Washington, D.C., which has a population of only 618,000. As a result, sophisticated diagnostic equipment is scarce in Canada and growing scarcer. There are more MRIs (magnetic resonance imagers) in Washington State, which has a population of 4.6 million, than in all of Canada, which has a population of 26 million.

In Canada, as in Britain under socialized medicine, patients are denied care, forced to cope with increasingly antiquated hospitals and equipment, and can die while waiting for treatment. Canada controls health care costs the same way Britain and Russia do: by denying modern treatment to the sick and letting the severely ill and old die.

Despite standards far below those of the United States, when variables such as America’s higher crime and teenage pregnancy rates are factored out, and when concealed government overhead costs are factored in, Canada spends as high a percentage of its GNP on health care as the United States. Today a growing chorus of Canadians, including many former champions of socialized medicine, are calling for return to a market-based system.

http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=2251
 
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