Hat: "Prior to BSE we were in Nafta and our prices were s***. I acknowledge were in the high end of the price cycle but our price cycles are not historically accurate given we've never had FTA's like we have now."
You just flat don't get it do you????
Australian and New Zealand imports create a PRICE POSITIVE situation for U.S. producers by adding value to their worthless 50/50 trim. We can't supply enough "CHEAP" trim domestically to blend with it.
Mexico "WAS" a PRICE POSITIVE situation for the U.S. WE EXPORTED MORE DOLLARS WORTH OF BEEF AND BEEF BY PRODUCTS THAN WE IMPORTED FROM MEXICO. When R-CULT was filing their loser dumping case against Canada, Mexico was filing one against the U.S.
JAPAN "WAS" a price positive situation for the U.S. WE EXPORTED MORE DOLLARS WORTH OF BEEF AND BEEF BY PRODUCTS THAN WE IMPORTED FROM JAPAN.
South Korea "WAS" a price positive situation for the U.S. WE EXPORTED MORE DOLLARS WORTH OF BEEF AND BEEF BY PRODUCTS THAN WE IMPORTED FROM SOUTH KOREA.
Canada is the only deficit situation for beef and beef by product trade and if we didn't import from Canada, they would assume that same percentage of our Japan market. DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT??? NOOOOOOOO!!!!
ONCE AGAIN HAT, "PRIOR TO THE BSE BORDER CLOSURE, WE WERE IN A $1.3 BILLION DOLLAR TRADE SURPLUS SITUATION FOR A SEVEN YEAR AVERAGE AMOUNTING TO AN ADDITIONAL $28 PER HEAD IN THE U.S.
In Contrast, Bullard says we'd be in a favorable position without any trade. Is taking less for your cattle a "favorable position" to you????
Those are the unrefuted facts. You can get that information from the U.S. Dept of Commerce - Bureau of Census.
If you just want to R-CULT it by looking only at cattle prices rather than isolating the trade value of those prices, you cannot possibly understand the value of trade.
To say that prices were higher prior to NAFTA is to ignore CONSUMER DEMAND, DOMESTIC SUPPLIES, COMPETITIVE MEAT VALUES, VALUE ADDED PRODUCTS, and all the other things that affected cattle prices during that period of time.
Nobody but a complete fool looks at one aspect of the equation and tries to determine what caused low cattle prices.
40 pounds extra carcass weight will damn near wipe out your bitch about Canadian imports. Don't you understand that??? Probably not if all you do is listen to Bullard, McDonnel, Herman and Johnny.
You R-CALFers don't have a clue about all the things that affect cattle prices do you? You just repeat what you hear. Come on, step up to the plate and take me to task on the value of beef and beef by product trade.
For years we have heard that low cattle prices were a result of packer concentration and captive supply. WE JUST SAW THE HIGHEST CATTLE PRICES EVER RECORDED WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF PACKER CONCENTRATION AND VIRTUALLY THE SAME LEVEL OF CAPTIVE SUPPLY.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT????
Why wasn't anyone bitching about packer concentration and captive supplies then?? BECAUSE THEY ARE BOGUS BULLSH*T THEORIES, THAT'S WHY!
I suppose you R-CALFers have some whiz bang domestic market for tongues, livers, ofal, chucks and rounds huh? Oh, that's right, you were probably giving financial contributions to ending the checkoff program instead huh? Based on another lie about checkoff funds funding NCBA while you were getting your daily brainwashing from the Livestock Marketing Police. Rather support packer parasite lawsuits because they made a WHOPPING $26 per head on your cattle and signed your captive supply contracts that you willingly entered into huh?????
Now let's divert these issues by talking about how rude I am shall we? LOL!