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"Ike" Caused U.S. Resentment In Iran

Mike

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Say it ain't so, OT. Ike meddled in world affairs which may be the start of all the resentment in the Middle East.


http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php
 

Brad S

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I knew OT was shading the truth when he extolled the virtue of Ike and said nothing about Goldwater, then said he was a Ron Paul guy. One cannot be of sound mind and vote Ron Paul then vote anti Ron Paul.
 
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Anonymous

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Brad S said:
I knew OT was shading the truth when he extolled the virtue of Ike and said nothing about Goldwater, then said he was a Ron Paul guy. One cannot be of sound mind and vote Ron Paul then vote anti Ron Paul.

I've never voted against Ron Paul.. He wasn't on the ticket- as the Repubs didn't want him... I did vote for him in the 2008 primary but it didn't count as that is the year Montana's Republican Party did not think the average Joe Blow knew how to vote- and held caucus's made up of invited party leaders to choose the candidate (the only year they did that after the He!! they got from the Joe Blows of the state...



As far as with Ike- I don't doubt his involvement as Ike was a big believer in intelligence operations, counter intelligence, covert operations and the CIA... Remember the U2 incident ... But he was not as anxious of sending young troops into war or invading sovereign nations like some Presidents are..
 

Mike

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OT wrote:
But he was not as anxious of sending young troops into war or invading sovereign nations like some Presidents are..

No, he just sponsored coups that caused huge resentments and left the world in pieces of hatred for later administrations to deal with. :roll:
 

Brad S

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If you're fair to Ike, the Brits were still driving the scene over there. Still, it would be nice to replay that post ww2 stuff, cause we are paying spades for mistakes

OT, how does one support a minimum govt libertarian, then support a big govt guy like Obama? I too have been frustrated by the RNC machine telling us who is going to be the nominee, but the answer is grass roots upheaval in the RNC. Look at where Rand Paul is, things are changing in the RNC the more right wing wackos like Ron Paul are heard. If ever Ron Paul libertarian constitutionalism made sense to you, Obama has to chafe the hell out of you.


Exposer was being polite,he meant to say libertarian to communist.
 
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Brad S said:
If you're fair to Ike, the Brits were still driving the scene over there. Still, it would be nice to replay that post ww2 stuff, cause we are paying spades for mistakes

OT, how does one support a minimum govt libertarian, then support a big govt guy like Obama?

Actually if you want to look- there is a conversation between me and Sandhusker about the exact same thing prior to the 2008 election... And as I explained to him then- and I've explained ever since-- I voted for whoever could end the policies of George W. Bush and which were being echoed by John McCain... Not only his invasion of Iraq lies- and the Trillions $ he squandered there - but because I could envision the Bush Bust which we ended up getting... I believe I began predicting the Bush Bust in numerous posts in 2005 and from then on -- but up until the day the walls were tumbling on the savings and loans/Banks neither Bush nor McCain could see it- pronouncing that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong"... Our country couldn't stand any more of that blinded "asleep at the wheel" vision... And when Paul went down as a candidate the only one left was Obama... (I donated to both campaigns)... (Bob Barr was the Libertarian candidate that year and while he disagreed with GW as much as I did- and was fiscally conservative- he didn't follow most of the Libertarian social platform)...

Obama won in 2008 mainly because of the ineptness of GW....

And personally- and economically- even tho we haven't fully recovered from the Bush Bust (and I don't expect it until about 2017-2018-- 10 years) personally and locally I can't remember a time when the economy was better... Record cattle prices- decent wheat prices- anyone that wants to work has a job and can earn whatever they want...

I'm not a fan of many of Obama's directions/policies - and lean more toward the libertarian views and their last platform -- the conservative fiscal policy- states rights- with a tolerant stay out of my life social policy...That is the reason I voted for Gary Johnson in the last election... But realistically I'm not sure a Libertarian candidate can win a national election-- altho I think Rand Paul is correct when he says the Republican party needs to lean much more toward the libertarian thinking on some of the social issues if they want to get the big tent they need to win a national election....

Heres one of those old threads:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24703&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=mulatto&start=0
 

loomixguy

Well-known member
"Bush Bust...Bush Bust....". :roll:

For cripe's sake, will you realize that the Dimms are even more responsible for the excrement happening now than Bush could be held accountable for? The guy OT wears kneepads for has been where OT put him for SIX years now! When does your Dear Leader have to accept responsibility/accountability for the damage he has caused??

At least you are getting your money's worth out of those kneepads. Besides their original purpose, you are strapping them on 5x a day to kneel towards Mecca and pray to your "God", Allah. :shock:
 

Mike

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Brad S said:
If you're fair to Ike, the Brits were still driving the scene over there. Still, it would be nice to replay that post ww2 stuff, cause we are paying spades for mistakes

OT, how does one support a minimum govt libertarian, then support a big govt guy like Obama?

Actually if you want to look- there is a conversation between me and Sandhusker about the exact same thing prior to the 2008 election... And as I explained to him then- and I've explained ever since-- I voted for whoever could end the policies of George W. Bush and which were being echoed by John McCain... Not only his invasion of Iraq lies- and the Trillions $ he squandered there - but because I could envision the Bush Bust which we ended up getting... I believe I began predicting the Bush Bust in numerous posts in 2005 and from then on -- but up until the day the walls were tumbling on the savings and loans/Banks neither Bush nor McCain could see it- pronouncing that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong"... Our country couldn't stand any more of that blinded "asleep at the wheel" vision... And when Paul went down as a candidate the only one left was Obama... (I donated to both campaigns)... (Bob Barr was the Libertarian candidate that year and while he disagreed with GW as much as I did- and was fiscally conservative- he didn't follow most of the Libertarian social platform)...

Obama won in 2008 mainly because of the ineptness of GW....

And personally- and economically- even tho we haven't fully recovered from the Bush Bust (and I don't expect it until about 2017-2018-- 10 years) personally and locally I can't remember a time when the economy was better... Record cattle prices- decent wheat prices- anyone that wants to work has a job and can earn whatever they want...

I'm not a fan of many of Obama's directions/policies - and lean more toward the libertarian views and their last platform -- the conservative fiscal policy- states rights- with a tolerant stay out of my life social policy...That is the reason I voted for Gary Johnson in the last election... But realistically I'm not sure a Libertarian candidate can win a national election-- altho I think Rand Paul is correct when he says the Republican party needs to lean much more toward the libertarian thinking on some of the social issues if they want to get the big tent they need to win a national election....

Heres one of those old threads:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24703&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=mulatto&start=0

Sickening pack of lies. :roll:
 

loomixguy

Well-known member
OT's Dear Leader won in 2008 because of the ineptness of Bush? That's rich. I wasn't aware that Bush was running in 2008. I thought he won cause he sold a bill of goods to the American people, including OT, who for some reason thought it was time for a "black" to be President. He won reelection in 2012 because of the lie concerning Benghazi and the addiction many Americans have to handouts and welfare.

Compared to Dear Leader, ol' W is looking pretty damn good anymore. Better than any "community organizer".
 

Steve

Well-known member
Mike said:
OT wrote:
But he was not as anxious of sending young troops into war or invading sovereign nations like some Presidents are..

No, he just sponsored coups that caused huge resentments and left the world in pieces of hatred for later administrations to deal with. :roll:

was that comment about Ike or Obama?

either way it may explain OT's love affair with everything Obama..
 
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