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Illegal Immigration legislation

aplusmnt

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So I guess President Bush is jumping in bed with Pelosi and her Liberal buddies.

The new legislation is nothing more than an amnesty program that allows the Government to be a Coyote in bringing over the illegals at a price of $5,000.00 :mad:

As for any new laws in preventing it happen in the future, why would we expect them to enforce any new immigration laws, if they do not enforce the old ones? :roll:

Smoke and mirrors to get voters off their backs, when in reality nothing will be any different 5 years down the road. :x
 
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Anonymous

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I agree with Rush- this may be the final straw to break the back and totally divide an already very split GOP- but President Rove can/will do nothing that interfers with the neocon sell out of the US to the Multinational Corporate Globalist traders... Can you say President Hillary :???: :wink: :lol: :( :mad: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Friday, May 18, 2007 2:00 p.m. EDT
Rush: Immigration Bill Will Kill GOP



Supporters call it a Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill, but top radio talker Rush Limbaugh has another name for it. He calls it the "Comprehensive Destroy the Republican Party Bill."

During Friday's syndicated broadcast of the Rush Limbaugh program, Rush criticized the Senate's immigration proposal as liberalism gone wild.

"Liberals are trying to tear this country down institution by institution and rebuild it in their own image, and this is one of the steps that they are trying to make it happen," he said.

Rush warned that if this bill comes out of the Senate in its present form - and it's highly doubtful that it will - the liberals in the House will not vote for it. He said the politicians realize that there are Democrats in California, Arizona, Texas and Virginia where illegal immigration is a red hot issue and a vote for this bill would be political suicide.

As for Republicans, they have already lost California, Rush reminded his listeners. If they lose Virginia and lose Florida, it's all over for the GOP as far as elections go. And being blamed for this immigration bill could cost them both states.

Rush explained that this is why Senate Democrats want Republicans to receive "credit" for passing this bill.

"It's a piece of legislation that hardly anybody has ever seen," he said, yet already "there are walls of opposition that are being built on all sides of this."

The bill, he warned, will create "a brand new, giant welfare state paid by the rest of us," yet illegal immigrants are telling the media: "'I don't like this. I don't like having to go home. I don't want to pay these fines.'"

They needn't worry, Rush said. The illegals will not be forced to go home at all. They are not going to pay any fines. It's not going to happen because there is no political will to do so.


"Once this bill passes they'll be talking about how if you have to go home it will split up families and they'll say the fines would be taking food out of the mouths of poor children by making the parents pay these ridiculous fines," Rush told his audience.
Speaking of why any Republicans are supporting the bill, Rush explained: "You could legalize rape in this country if you simply called it the Civil Rights Act of 2007 because nobody on Capitol Hill has the guts to vote against anything that claims to be broadening or creating civil rights. It's a code word."
 

aplusmnt

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I know I am taking McCain off my list of consideration in 08. I expect this kind of crap from Kennedy, but McCain is an idiot for joining in with Kennedy on such a stupid proposal. I would think McCain would stay as far away from such a left Liberal as Kennedy.

The man does some stupid stuff sometimes trying to pander to the middle or left.

Some say it is better than nothing, but if it is bad legislation then it is bad, kill it and write something that will really work. They are just blowing smoke up our butts trying to get votes and pressure off their backs until the next election is over.

As a protest I am not going to eat Taco Bell until congress passes some serious illegal immigration legislation! :lol:

Ps. Anyone know where I can get a "Vote NO for McCain in O8" shirt?
 

kolanuraven

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As a protest I am not going to eat Taco Bell until congress passes some serious illegal immigration legislation! :lol:

Ps. Anyone know where I can get a "Vote NO for McCain in O8" shirt?[/quote]


Don't starve the ratz in Taco Bell just cause you're pi$$ed!!!!


Maybe there might be a market for those shirts...you had better get to work!
 
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Anonymous

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At least more and more of these folks are seeing now how the Bush/Rove D.C. neocon crew have tried to sell out America since day one...But GW creating this little battle right now (1 year before the election) , I believe will not do good for the GOP- which can't stand any more division....

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Friday, May 18, 2007 2:53 p.m. EDT
Savage: Stop the 'I Bomb' on America


Calling the new comprehensive immigration reform bill the "I Bomb," top talk-show host Michael Savage vowed to "derail this train of treason."
Said Savage in an e-mail to NewsMax.com our "Culture [is] being destroyed by greed, greed, greed.

"Bush is the chief culprit. He's wanted this from day one. In fact, we played a sound bite yesterday of him gleefully looking forward to the Democrat-controlled New Congress last Fall! At last he could push through his ultra-internationalist agenda."

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the chief proponent of the bill also "is now finished," he added.


"Romney is the new front-runner and will beat Hillary if he maintains his conservative positions, especially on immigration.

"I instructed my listeners to bombard Congress with millions of e-mails saying, 'No Amnesty . . . We'll Vote You Out.' I reminded them [that] we stopped the Dubai Ports Deal and we have the voting power to stop Bush from dropping the I Bomb on America.

"As of today, I think we are going to derail this train of treason. The I Bomb will be defused."
 
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Anonymous

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Friday, May 18, 2007 12:54 a.m. EDT
Rep. Steve King: Immigration Reform a 'Sham'


Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, says the immigration measure proposed by the Senate "has a good chance” of passing in the House, but he is adamantly opposed to it.

King, appearing as a guest Friday on Fox News Channel, called the bill a "hand grenade” that the Senate will likely pass before the Memorial Day break and toss back to the House as the senators "run for the hills” in their home states.



"We do not have a procedural way to stop it if Nancy Pelosi determines that she is going to bring that bill to the floor,” King said. "They will produce the votes they need to pass this on the Democratic side because they recognize this as cheap votes for Democrats and cheap labor for those who are employing the illegal immigrants who are here today.”


King estimates that there are nearly 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States at this moment, high above the projected 12 million estimated by the U.S. government. He called a "sham” the idea of enforcing measures that would require illegals to return to their home countries then come back to apply for legal U.S. citizenship.

"They are not going to enforce it,” King said of the Senate proponents of the immigration measure. "They didn’t enforce the [previous immigration reforms] in 1986, they didn’t enforce them in ’96, and they are not enforcing them in 2007 or 2016. That all is a sham.”

The measure, which many critics are calling "amnesty” for illegals, does not require illegal immigrants to pay back taxes for the time they have lived and earned money in the United States.


"It’s a pardon to immigration law breakers and it's a reward with the objective of their crime,” King said. "It’s better for them to be here illegally and get this reward than it is to be an American citizen who has been pulling this load all this time.”


King said he is confident that he should oppose the immigration measure when it comes to the House, if only for the people who are in favor of its passage.

"Some of the people on the left embrace Marxism over on their side,” King said. "Everyone on the Democrats side of the judiciary committee is embracing [this] plan. That tells me that I’m probably not wrong if I oppose it.”
 

kolanuraven

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As I understand it...this so called ' bill' is not even fully written yet. Also, I heard it said that the loopholes are bigger anyone can imagine.


This will get run through with the ink not even dry.

Bush has screwed up his war so no glory there in the pages of history....now he's hoping this Immigration Reform Deal will be his crowning glory!
 
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Anonymous

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kolanuraven said:
Bush has screwed up his war so no glory there in the pages of history....now he's hoping this Immigration Reform Deal will be his crowning glory!

From the feedback and flack I'm seeing and hearing, I'm not sure if even old Teddy Kennedy could get GW into the Liberal Hall of Shame about now... :roll: Maybe GW's looking for 10 years down the line and when his neocon ultra internationalist North American Union comes to be-- he figures he can be proclaimed "Padre el Nacion".... :wink: :lol:

This is the death knell for McCain- but definitely opens the door to Romney-- or Fred Thompson.....
 
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Anonymous

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Oldtimer said:
This is the death knell for McCain- but definitely opens the door to Romney-- or Fred Thompson.....

Or Newt!!!!

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Friday, May 18, 2007 10 p.m. EDT
Gingrich: Immigration Deal Sells Out U.S. Security


Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich used the Georgia Republican Convention on Friday to air complaints about a Senate compromise on immigration reform.

He called the plan a citizenship "giveaway," adding, "These inherited bureaucracies do not work."

He also slammed the federal government's inability to track the illegal immigrants already in the country, who are believed to number 12 million, and quipped that shipping companies would do a better job, according to The Associated Press.

Gingrich said, "Allocate $$200 million to send a package to every person who's here illegally. When UPS and FedEx deliver them, we'll know exactly where they are."


On Thursday, Gingrich was on Sean Hannity's radio program and stated: "I am so much in opposition to this bill that I want to make it very clear: If I were president, I would veto this bill. I think it's that bad. And I would challenge everybody currently running for president to indicate whether they would sign or veto this bill - nothing in between."

"This is a terrible sellout of American security," Gingrich concluded.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Becareful of too much Newt glory.

He's one of those that will say, " Do as I say....not as I do"

He's a slick one. You thought Clinton was a slick one...you ain't seen nothing yet!!!
 
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kolanuraven said:
Becareful of too much Newt glory.

He's one of those that will say, " Do as I say....not as I do"

He's a slick one. You thought Clinton was a slick one...you ain't seen nothing yet!!!

Kola- Not that often, but I agree with you on Newt...Even tho I like what he told Hannity about what he thinks of this immigration bill- and I like his "guest worker" idea of securing the border first- forcing everyone to go home and reapply and enter the country legally better than I do this current legislative fiction novel they're currently writing.......Something about him bothers me...

Besides his ego- and his I can do no wrong womanizing, I guess the main thing is that he is so tied into this current bunch of neoconservatives past/present in D.C that advocate this globalist, interventionist, open borders, nation building ideology that has got us originally into all these border, immigration, economic messes and world conflicts in the first place- that I'm not sure if he would do anything different......

He packs a lot of baggage with him- and a lot of it is pretty stinky dirty laundry.....

Kola- I figured he was probably "your man" since he has some of Slick Willys beliefs and ways of defining things:
:wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

During his marriage to Battley in 1977, Newt was rumored to have had an affair with a Washington, D.C. woman named Ann Manning. "We had oral sex," Manning claimed. "He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" Manning also claimed that Gingrich threatened, "If you ever tell anybody about this, I'll say you're lying." Gingrich has never publicly addressed this accusation.


Comes down to all the new laws in the world are going to do no good if these neocons are not going to enforce the ones that don't fit their New World agenda, anyway...... :( :mad:
 
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