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I'm the Libertarian here

Big Muddy rancher

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http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=296618&highlight=libertarian#296618

OT wrote"
I'm the Libertarian here-- that doesn't believe the federal government or other folks should be sticking their noses in other peoples bedrooms, or medical decisions, or what their local schools want to teach or not teach, or who you want for a lifetime companion, or how you raise your kids (unless they are abused/neglected), or what your kids do for a living or what college they go to ... I'm one of the last that trys to portray an image- or keep up with the Jones.. Or follow the midstream because its the direction everyone else is taking....
And it does cause controversy-- but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid....."
 
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Anonymous

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Big Muddy rancher said:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=296618&highlight=libertarian#296618

OT wrote"
I'm the Libertarian here-- that doesn't believe the federal government or other folks should be sticking their noses in other peoples bedrooms, or medical decisions, or what their local schools want to teach or not teach, or who you want for a lifetime companion, or how you raise your kids (unless they are abused/neglected), or what your kids do for a living or what college they go to ... I'm one of the last that trys to portray an image- or keep up with the Jones.. Or follow the midstream because its the direction everyone else is taking....
And it does cause controversy-- but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid....."

I see you never commented on whether you support or oppose the Libertarian principles I put up that I support Big Muddy-- just acting like the old lady- putting up posts to individually/personally attack.... :roll:

I think in the next Montana government- if the current Repubs get their way in the Legislature with their platform that wants to make all homosexuals or AC/DC folks criminals-- you and Tammy Faye might find jobs as the perfect "Bedroom Cops"..... :wink:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=296618&highlight=libertarian#296618

OT wrote"
I'm the Libertarian here-- that doesn't believe the federal government or other folks should be sticking their noses in other peoples bedrooms, or medical decisions, or what their local schools want to teach or not teach, or who you want for a lifetime companion, or how you raise your kids (unless they are abused/neglected), or what your kids do for a living or what college they go to ... I'm one of the last that trys to portray an image- or keep up with the Jones.. Or follow the midstream because its the direction everyone else is taking....
And it does cause controversy-- but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid....."

I see you never commented on whether you support or oppose the Libertarian principles I put up that I support Big Muddy-- just acting like the old lady- putting up posts to individually/personally attack.... :roll:

I think in the next Montana government- if the current Repubs get their way in the Legislature with their platform that wants to make all homosexuals or AC/DC folks criminals-- you and Tammy Faye might find jobs as the perfect "Bedroom Cops"..... :wink:

Gee I just love how the Moderator of this web site is above personal attacks. OH WAIT NEVER MIND :oops: :roll:
 

MsSage

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Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=296618&highlight=libertarian#296618

OT wrote"
I'm the Libertarian here-- that doesn't believe the federal government or other folks should be sticking their noses in other peoples bedrooms, or medical decisions, or what their local schools want to teach or not teach, or who you want for a lifetime companion, or how you raise your kids (unless they are abused/neglected), or what your kids do for a living or what college they go to ... I'm one of the last that trys to portray an image- or keep up with the Jones.. Or follow the midstream because its the direction everyone else is taking....
And it does cause controversy-- but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid....."

I see you never commented on whether you support or oppose the Libertarian principles I put up that I support Big Muddy-- just acting like the old lady- putting up posts to individually/personally attack.... :roll:

I think in the next Montana government- if the current Repubs get their way in the Legislature with their platform that wants to make all homosexuals or AC/DC folks criminals-- you and Tammy Faye might find jobs as the perfect "Bedroom Cops"..... :wink:
hmmm but you believe that government should "control" business...... :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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MsSage said:
Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=296618&highlight=libertarian#296618

OT wrote"
I'm the Libertarian here-- that doesn't believe the federal government or other folks should be sticking their noses in other peoples bedrooms, or medical decisions, or what their local schools want to teach or not teach, or who you want for a lifetime companion, or how you raise your kids (unless they are abused/neglected), or what your kids do for a living or what college they go to ... I'm one of the last that trys to portray an image- or keep up with the Jones.. Or follow the midstream because its the direction everyone else is taking....
And it does cause controversy-- but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid....."

I see you never commented on whether you support or oppose the Libertarian principles I put up that I support Big Muddy-- just acting like the old lady- putting up posts to individually/personally attack.... :roll:

I think in the next Montana government- if the current Repubs get their way in the Legislature with their platform that wants to make all homosexuals or AC/DC folks criminals-- you and Tammy Faye might find jobs as the perfect "Bedroom Cops"..... :wink:
hmmm but you believe that government should "control" business...... :roll:

I don't believe in many of the parties economic/business platforms because they all assume we live in a capitalistic free market system- with a free trade system...

They are deluding themselves because the a free market and free trade system hasn't been existent in this country for 200+ years since government picked and chose and decided which industries should pick up the costs of government- and established taxes, tariffs, and trade laws over certain industries/products-- which over the past 200+ years and especially the past 20 years with the FTA's are completely controlled by the Big Industry Lobbyiests stuffing the pockets of politicians of both parties... Biggest dollar gets the biggest representation...

Unless you want to overthrow the whole current government system- (which neither Repubs or Dems want to give up their benefactors) it will not change and we will continue to be a Corporate Fascist country-- with the party in power controlling which business's/industries profiteers....
 

hopalong

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hypocritexposer said:
and of course you don't believe in the government controlling your Health Care decisions.

:lol: :lol:

Or what about bedroom issues, seems to me oldtimer really worries about that , is he afraid they will find out about his fondness for pink teddies that he likes to wear???

Eh oldtimer is pink really your color? Or do you like the DARKER shades, do you wear garter belts and heels!

oldtimer you are really a major hypocrite
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
and of course you don't believe in the government controlling your Health Care decisions.

:lol: :lol:

I haven't seen anything yet that does that.. In fact it opens more options- allows ALL to have adequate Insurance which wasn't possible before with the Insurance Companies ability to deny/drop you (even after years of paying them premiums) if you had a problem- and puts some personal responsibility (requires all to have insurance) rather than pawning the medical costs off to those that have for years paid for insurance or their bills....
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
and of course you don't believe in the government controlling your Health Care decisions.

:lol: :lol:

I haven't seen anything yet that does that.. In fact it opens more options- allows ALL to have adequate Insurance which wasn't possible before with the Insurance Companies ability to deny/drop you (even after years of paying them premiums) if you had a problem- and puts some personal responsibility (requires all to have insurance) rather than pawning the medical costs off to those that have for years paid for insurance or their bills....

The number one goal of Health Care reform was to control cost, can you honestly say that the bill that was passed will lower costs?

As for control, does it not mandate that you have to have coverage? Is that not Government madating what you do with your body?

What's next, helping out the insurance companies by making it illegal not to have disability and life insurance?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=296618&highlight=libertarian#296618

OT wrote"
I'm the Libertarian here-- that doesn't believe the federal government or other folks should be sticking their noses in other peoples bedrooms, or medical decisions, or what their local schools want to teach or not teach, or who you want for a lifetime companion, or how you raise your kids (unless they are abused/neglected), or what your kids do for a living or what college they go to ... I'm one of the last that trys to portray an image- or keep up with the Jones.. Or follow the midstream because its the direction everyone else is taking....
And it does cause controversy-- but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid....."

I see you never commented on whether you support or oppose the Libertarian principles I put up that I support Big Muddy-- just acting like the old lady- putting up posts to individually/personally attack.... :roll:

I think in the next Montana government- if the current Repubs get their way in the Legislature with their platform that wants to make all homosexuals or AC/DC folks criminals-- you and Tammy Faye might find jobs as the perfect "Bedroom Cops"..... :wink:


Personal attack? :roll:

What did I do break off your leg and beat you over the head with the wet end? I used your own friggin' words. How the heck is that a personal attack?

With what you posted your against government intrusion into personal lives. That's exactly what most of what you call"Teabaggers" want as well. They want the government to do what governments were meant to do. Provide law and order and uphold the constitution and laws of the land. They realize they have to pay taxes but want them to be used in a responsible manner.
 

hypocritexposer

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=296618&highlight=libertarian#296618

OT wrote"
I'm the Libertarian here-- that doesn't believe the federal government or other folks should be sticking their noses in other peoples bedrooms, or medical decisions, or what their local schools want to teach or not teach, or who you want for a lifetime companion, or how you raise your kids (unless they are abused/neglected), or what your kids do for a living or what college they go to ... I'm one of the last that trys to portray an image- or keep up with the Jones.. Or follow the midstream because its the direction everyone else is taking....
And it does cause controversy-- but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid....."

I see you never commented on whether you support or oppose the Libertarian principles I put up that I support Big Muddy-- just acting like the old lady- putting up posts to individually/personally attack.... :roll:

I think in the next Montana government- if the current Repubs get their way in the Legislature with their platform that wants to make all homosexuals or AC/DC folks criminals-- you and Tammy Faye might find jobs as the perfect "Bedroom Cops"..... :wink:


Personal attack? :roll:

What did I do break off you leg and beat you over the head with the wet end? I used your own friggin' words. How the heck is that a personal attack?

With what you posted your against government intrusion into personal lives. That's exactly what most of what you call"Teabaggers" want as well. They want the government to do what governments were meant to do. Provide law and order and uphold the constitution and laws of the land. They realize they have to pay taxes but want them to be used in a responsible manner.

OT would be a "*********" if the movement had started under Bush's 2nd term. He believed in all the same things at one point in time.

"OT was for it, before he was against it"
 

redrobin

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...and of course from his libertarian point of view, teaching sex ed to first graders is ok but jbs can't own too many cattle, that infringes upon his ??? what is that it infringes upon?
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
I see you never commented on whether you support or oppose the Libertarian principles I put up that I support Big Muddy-- just acting like the old lady- putting up posts to individually/personally attack.... :roll:

I think in the next Montana government- if the current Repubs get their way in the Legislature with their platform that wants to make all homosexuals or AC/DC folks criminals-- you and Tammy Faye might find jobs as the perfect "Bedroom Cops"..... :wink:


Personal attack? :roll:

What did I do break off you leg and beat you over the head with the wet end? I used your own friggin' words. How the heck is that a personal attack?

With what you posted your against government intrusion into personal lives. That's exactly what most of what you call"Teabaggers" want as well. They want the government to do what governments were meant to do. Provide law and order and uphold the constitution and laws of the land. They realize they have to pay taxes but want them to be used in a responsible manner.

OT would be a "*********" if the movement had started under Bush's 2nd term. He believed in all the same things at one point in time.

"OT was for it, before he was against it"

Problem is the Teabaggers have associated themselves with the extremist radical right (KKK, Aryan Nations, Freemen, Neo Nazi, etc.) groups that used the same methods for years- even still arguing against the constitutionality of income tax- and many long time accepted US practices....Too me their racism- and upside down flag waving and other tactics seems like they would rather promote anarchy and rebellion- rather true reform....

Just like the radical left- the radical right is extremely dangerous- much of which didn't show itself (and I really didn't believe could happen) until GW used false info- leaked thru a cooperative FOX news station (according to Scott McClellan) and falsely initiated a war to usurp many of our Constitutional Rights (besides helping to bankrupt the country)...

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Personal attack? :roll:

What did I do break off you leg and beat you over the head with the wet end? I used your own friggin' words. How the heck is that a personal attack?

With what you posted your against government intrusion into personal lives. That's exactly what most of what you call"Teabaggers" want as well. They want the government to do what governments were meant to do. Provide law and order and uphold the constitution and laws of the land. They realize they have to pay taxes but want them to be used in a responsible manner.

OT would be a "*********" if the movement had started under Bush's 2nd term. He believed in all the same things at one point in time.

"OT was for it, before he was against it"

Problem is the Teabaggers have associated themselves with the extremist radical right (KKK, Aryan Nations, Freemen, Neo Nazi, etc.) groups that used the same methods for years- even still arguing against the constitutionality of income tax- and many long time accepted US practices....Too me their racism- and upside down flag waving and other tactics seems like they would rather promote anarchy and rebellion- rather true reform....

Just like the radical left- the radical right is extremely dangerous- much of which didn't show itself (and I really didn't believe could happen) until GW used false info- leaked thru a cooperative FOX news station (according to Scott McClellan) and falsely initiated a war to usurp many of our Constitutional Rights (besides helping to bankrupt the country)...

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


:lol: :lol:

Just like the radical left- the radical right is extremely dangerous

the groups you mentioned are all "left radicals".
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
and of course you don't believe in the government controlling your Health Care decisions.

:lol: :lol:

I haven't seen anything yet that does that.. In fact it opens more options- allows ALL to have adequate Insurance which wasn't possible before with the Insurance Companies ability to deny/drop you (even after years of paying them premiums) if you had a problem- and puts some personal responsibility (requires all to have insurance) rather than pawning the medical costs off to those that have for years paid for insurance or their bills....

Obama quote Aug 11 2009
Now, let me just start by setting the record straight on a few things I've been hearing out here -- (laughter) -- about reform. Under the reform we're proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.

Now Obama's story is
if you want to keep the health insurance you got, you can keep it, that you're not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge.'

Isn't one of the decision you should have in reguards of your health is what Doctor you want to see Oldtimer? :?
 

Larrry

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Problem is the Teabaggers have associated themselves with the extremist radical right (KKK, Aryan Nations, Freemen, Neo Nazi, etc.) groups that used the same methods for years- even still arguing against the constitutionality of income tax- and many long time accepted US practices....Too me their racism- and upside down flag waving and other tactics seems like they would rather promote anarchy and rebellion- rather true reform....

That is just a bold faced Lie you Big bellied overstuffed drunk PIG
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Problem is the Teabaggers have associated themselves with the extremist radical right (KKK, Aryan Nations, Freemen, Neo Nazi, etc.) groups that used the same methods for years- even still arguing against the constitutionality of income tax- and many long time accepted US practices....Too me their racism- and upside down flag waving and other tactics seems like they would rather promote anarchy and rebellion- rather true reform....

Oldtimer if you look at history you will see that the KKK burned things in effigy now ask yourself who has been burning a President in effigy The Radical LEFT burning Bush or Right burning Obama? I have to say I don't think I have ever seen Obama being burned, hung, or decapitated at any Tea Party Protest But I doubt you can honesty say that about Bush. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Problem is the Teabaggers have associated themselves with the extremist radical right (KKK, Aryan Nations, Freemen, Neo Nazi, etc.) groups that used the same methods for years- even still arguing against the constitutionality of income tax- and many long time accepted US practices....Too me their racism- and upside down flag waving and other tactics seems like they would rather promote anarchy and rebellion- rather true reform....

Oldtimer if you look at history you will see that the KKK burned things in effigy now ask yourself who has been burning a President in effigy The Radical LEFT burning Bush or Right burning Obama? I have to say I don't think I have ever seen Obama being burned, hung, or decapitated at any Tea Party Protest But I doubt you can honesty say that about Bush. :roll:

The KKK used to kill conservatives as well as blacks.

Being a libertarian, OT should know that groups that want to control others are "leftist".
 
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