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In my opinion not a cowboy.......

CattleArmy

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Is Ted Turner playing cowboy or hogging land?
CNN founder, the largest private landowner, has amassed 2 million acres

Associated Press

MULLEN, Neb. - Ted Turner's men did not flinch. As the price climbed past $8 million, $9 million, $9.5 million, they continued bidding at a rapid-fire pace.

When the auction was over, they walked away with what they came for: 26,300 acres of prime ranch land, at a cost of nearly $10 million.

"It hasn't taken long to find out he's serious," said Duane Kime, a rancher and Turner neighbor who was outbid by about $100,000 by the CNN founder.

But what exactly is Turner serious about?

The question gnaws at folks here and in other rural areas of the U.S. where people once thought the billionaire just wanted to play cowboy.

Turner has amassed 2 million acres over the past two decades to become the largest private landowner in the United States. He owns land in at least nine states, with most of his holdings in New Mexico, Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota, and is restoring buffalo, cutthroat trout, wolves, black-footed ferrets and other flora and fauna that filled the Plains before the West was won.

His front men say their boss does not have a secret agenda — he just wants to be a rancher. But each big buy only heightens the anxiety and gives rise to conspiracy theories, the most ominous of which hold that the swashbuckling Atlanta executive is bent on putting Nebraska ranchers and farmers out of business.


"With him it's such a concern," said Cindy Weller, who lives on the family ranch near Mullen. "You don't know what his plan is and what he's going to do."

Among the theories: Turner is trying to corner the land over the Ogallala Aquifer, the world's largest underground water system, to gain power in the water-starved West.

Or: He is scheming, perhaps with the United Nations, to create a vast wildlife refuge and turn it over to the U.S. government, removing the land from Nebraska's tax rolls. That could hurt Nebraska schools and other services, which are already starved for cash.

"The entire way of life here is threatened, and it's not just Turner, but he's one reason. The whole area is economically depressed," Weller said.

Mike Phillips, executive director of the Turner Endangered Species Fund, a Turner offshoot, insisted his boss is just a "doggone serious rancher," though one dedicated to preserving the environment

But Phillips' very presence is making people wonder. He once worked with The Wildlands Project, an environmental group that wants to create a continent-wide network of nature preserves to save endangered species. The Turner Foundation, the charity arm of Turner's empire, has contributed money to it and gives millions to dozens of other environmental groups.

Turner's organizations also have been in discussions with the World Wildlife Fund and the World Conservation Union about conserving bison. The groups have expressed interest in developing a huge park where bison could once again roam the Great Plains.

Actually, Turner's spokesmen say, the driving force behind Turner's land purchases is the desire to make money. Turner's Vermejo Park Ranch in New Mexico, for example, offers weeklong elk hunting excursions at $12,000 per person. He has also entered the restaurant business with gusto, opening more than 50 Ted's Montana Grill restaurants across the country that feature bison meat.

Turner declined to be interviewed, only accepting written questions answered by spokesman Phillip Evans.

"Our agenda is not to create a vast wildlife preserve," Evans, vice president of Turner Enterprises, said in an e-mail. However, he said, Turner is concerned about preserving animal habitat while ranching. "We think we can do both."

Ron Arnold, head of the Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise and author of several books critical of the environmental movement, said he has studied Turner's activities and come to his own conclusion.

Turner is amassing land for "his own sense of grandiosity," he said. "If he wants to hunt ducks on it, he hunts ducks on it. If he wanted to raise buffalo, he raised buffalo on it. That's all I could conclude."

Turner owns the largest buffalo herd in the country, 45,000 strong, many of them on the 425,000 acres he owns in Nebraska.

The sturdy bison need less attention than cattle, requiring fewer ranch hands. That adds to people's worries here in Hooker County, where there is about one person for each of the county's 721 square miles, just 15 kids graduated from high school last year, and the population dropped 3.4 percent from 2000 to 2006.

Another persistent complaint is that Turner's extraordinary ability to outbid just about anyone is driving up land prices, making it tougher for longtime ranchers to expand and keep their operations afloat.

Over the past decade, ranch land in the Sandhills region of the state where Turner owns all his property has more than doubled in price to over $300 an acre.

Kevin McCully, a Mullen-area land broker, said only a part of the increase can be attributed to Turner. Maybe, said Kime, but he just knows he cannot compete: The recent auction was the third time in recent years that he was outbid by Turner, who now borders about three-quarters of Kime's ranch.

Kime now wonders whether someday he might have to sell the ranch that has been in the family for generations.

"Turner might be the only one around that would want to buy it," he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22010764/
 

CattleArmy

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It's not a hunt. I simply posted it because "cruising the web" I came across it. Apparently some here think they are the ultimate expert on Ted. It may not be news everywhere but in the Nebraska Sandhills it is.

In my opinion the best thing Ted could do is hire a PR person from the area that would deliver back to him the truths of what and how his accusitions impact communities.

Anyone remember when he first came to the area how he had an organization that promoted community development. Did it just fizzle out or am I oblivious to it?
 

kolanuraven

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CattleArmy said:
It's not a hunt. I simply posted it because "cruising the web" I came across it. Apparently some here think they are the ultimate expert on Ted. It may not be news everywhere but in the Nebraska Sandhills it is.

In my opinion the best thing Ted could do is hire a PR person from the area that would deliver back to him the truths of what and how his accusitions impact communities.

Anyone remember when he first came to the area how he had an organization that promoted community development. Did it just fizzle out or am I oblivious to it?


Go apply for the job!

Get involved instead of sitting on the sidelines talking about it " what if".


If it's as you said in an earlier post that none of the ranchers could even get along with each other to try and work together to save ranches from being sold to others/outsiders.....I guess he got tired of dealing with all the crap & personalities that entails and just gave up.

If they can't get along with each other....tossing in a ' move in' just makes the whole deal lock down.
 

jodywy

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Rockefellers sent front men and bought out allot of the homesteaders north of Jackson Hole, allot of the ground in Teton Park and Rockefeller Parkway. Some of the tactic were not so noble and a few held out to have the park service put pressure on them to sell, not many in holding left up there.
 

CattleArmy

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kolanuraven said:
CattleArmy said:
It's not a hunt. I simply posted it because "cruising the web" I came across it. Apparently some here think they are the ultimate expert on Ted. It may not be news everywhere but in the Nebraska Sandhills it is.

In my opinion the best thing Ted could do is hire a PR person from the area that would deliver back to him the truths of what and how his accusitions impact communities.

Anyone remember when he first came to the area how he had an organization that promoted community development. Did it just fizzle out or am I oblivious to it?


Go apply for the job!

Get involved instead of sitting on the sidelines talking about it " what if".


If it's as you said in an earlier post that none of the ranchers could even get along with each other to try and work together to save ranches from being sold to others/outsiders.....I guess he got tired of dealing with all the crap & personalities that entails and just gave up.

If they can't get along with each other....tossing in a ' move in' just makes the whole deal lock down.


I'd love to have the opportunity to apply for a job. I'd love to be able to try and help promote positive relations between Turner and the community people. Have you ever tried to come up with an address to even try and communicate with Turner yourself? Not an easy task. It's not nearly as tough to talk to John Hansen and some of his men but do I think the message ever gets delivered? NO. Part of the problem is the management staff.

Here's an instance of a gentleman we met due to having one heck of an experience. He had to come borrow my Dad's tractor to try and recover hay that was not ruined by some of the brains in Turners operation that in fact was the gentlemans as part of a deal with Turner. If any of you have ever delt with them it is very professional and documents are signed which I have no problem at all with it's part of business. The problem lies in the fact that when this gentleman's deal went sour due to Turner's help he was having a very hard time even getting past the ranch foreman who through actions or lack of action destroyed most of the mans product. The last we had heard from the gentleman he was going to fly to try and meet with Turner himself which was turning out to be a great challenge.

I don't recall saying the ranches couldn't get along. I recall making the comment none of the ranchers on this site could seem to get along to buy a place together (myself included in that). The article states that some area ranchers did try but 100,000 to them is a heck of a lot more then it is to Turner.
 

kolanuraven

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Be persistent.

From what I know of you....you've got that in spades and I DO NOT mean that in a bad way!


I'm serious, try for it.
 
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