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Interesting idea

Tam

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Shepard Smith just had on an interesting issue. There is a Hospital that if you apply for a job and you smoke you will not be hired. The Hospital is selling their policy as their way to teach people what is good and bad for their health. Ask yourself should a job in the US be based on whether you smoke or not when the President of the US. smokes? :? Maybe the US government since they want everyone to live a healthier life should inact the same policy for their President?


Smokers need not apply.

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the Hospital's policy especially when the Spokesman said this was the "first step" in their attempt to teach people what is good for them and what is not. To which Shep asked what is the next step banning people from getting a job because they use salt? Both smoking and using salt are legal in the US and some doctors feel salt is harmful to a person's health and can cause death. ( IE the Assemblyman in NY already trying to have it ban in prepared foods) So what is stopping them from banning salt intake in their employees? To which the guy just said smoking is their first step to teach and Shep stopped him and said that is what scares him, FIRST STEP SO WHAT"S NEXT And personally I agree with Shep if they can ban smokers which is legal in the US from getting a job, what is next? Nanny State run amuck.
 

Tam

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Sandhusker said:
What if they're fat?

That's it, what is the next reason a person will be denied the ability to make a living if they can say if you smoke you are not working for me? I'm no lawyer but is this not discrimination since smoking is not illegal?
 

Tam

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Silver said:
Shouldn't an employer have the right to decide who they do and don't hire?

Not according to the law

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
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Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination Questions And Answers
Federal Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) Laws
I. What Are the Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination?

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;

the Equal Pay Act of 1963 (EPA), which protects men and women who perform substantially equal work in the same establishment from sex-based wage discrimination;

the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA), which protects individuals who are 40 years of age or older;

Title I and Title V of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, as amended (ADA), which prohibit employment discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities in the private sector, and in state and local governments;

Sections 501 and 505 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibit discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities who work in the federal government;

Title II of the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008 (GINA), which prohibits employment discrimination based on genetic information about an applicant, employee, or former employee; and

the Civil Rights Act of 1991, which, among other things, provides monetary damages in cases of intentional employment discrimination.
 

Steve

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Silver said:
Shouldn't an employer have the right to decide who they do and don't hire?

yes,.. as long as they do so within the confines of decency, responsibility and the pile of bureaucratic rules the state/fed has dumped on them..

overall I agree.. if they are fair let them make their own rules.. sure hope they stick to them when staffing gets thin...



BTW... the US military already has "no smoking rules" and will dump a good tech for being fat..
 

Steve

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Tam said:
Steve said:
Silver said:
BTW... the US military already has "no smoking rules" and will dump a good tech for being fat..

Must be something new as my neice was in the Air Force and she smokes.

my last two units were "smoke free" and that was over 15 years ago.

and as far as I know those entering since 85 were not allowed to smoke in basic..

I am not sure if there is a total ban on most bases, and at most units it was becoming the norm
 
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