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Interesting times ahead

Tam

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We have all seen that Obamacare is going down in a ball of flames. Obama lied to the American people and now they are lying about the numbers as they are NOWHERE close to what they have to be to make their plan work. Things will not likely turn around when the employer mandate kicks in as that is going to put a WHOLE LOT MORE people out of insurance that they liked. And the US is just learning now about what doctors are in the networks and what ones are not. So what will the Dems do?

Will the Dems that are responsible for voting for Obamacare stand by their vote and run on their support of Obamacare or will they try rewrite history and claim they never supported Obamacare?

One Democrat in AZ is already running ads distancing herself from her vote how many others will be doing the same thing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlv-YvK7I98

A new ad from a Demcratic super PAC indicates that, despite the claims of Democratic National Commitee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and others, at least some Democrats are wary of embracing Obamacare in upcoming midterm elections.

In the TV spot, the Democratic political action committee House Majority PAC highlights Arizona congresswoman Ann Kirkpatrick’s criticism of the bungled HealthCare.gov website. Kirkpatrick is a vulnerable Democrat running for reelection in November.

The ad opens by praising her for blowing the whistle on the “disastrous healthcare website.” In Congress, Kirkpatrick has taken steps to distance herself from the embattled health-care law. In November, for example, she was one of 39 Democrats to support Fred Upton’s bill, which would have allowed individuals renew their health-care plans after the law’s regulations required insurance companies to cancel them.

The Cook Political Report currently rates Kirkpatrick’s seat as one of 11 Democratic toss-ups.
 

Steve

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or will they try rewrite history and claim they never supported Obamacare?

last I heard from them,.. it was the republican's plan.. been working on it since Nixon.. somehow tricked "every" darn liberal into voting for it..

crafty buggers them republicans.. they probably all bought stock in the Big insurance corporations as well so they could bleed the working poor dry.. and destroy the middle class.. while getting rich off the profits..

at least that is the way it sounded.. it might be a bit before the liberals put it down in writing..
 

Tam

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Yep for the next year it will all be about ROMNEYCARE and how it was the original plan for Obamacare, or the mandate was a Republican Idea due to the Heritage Foundation. They will use anything they can to blame the failure of Obamacare on the Republicans and their lack of support and not the fact it was a sorry mess from the start, just like they are trying to blame Benghazi on the Republican budget cuts that even Charlene Lamb testified to the fact they were not a factor in the lack of Security at the Consulate.

The Dems say one thing and when it backfires in their faces, they blame a Republican just like the Dems did when they spent years claiming Saddam had WMD and when Bush didn't find them they all claimed BUSH LIED.

The Dems are pathological liars and are to stupid to realize they are ON RECORD and a simple internet search PROVES it. :roll:
 

smalltime

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Is it possible that a republican politician will lie just like a democrat politician when they want something or there is money to be made?
 

Larrry

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You know when a leftwing has run out of excuses and can no longer defends the leftwingernuts..........they revert to the "they all do it"

Better luck next time
 

Steve

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smalltime said:
Is it possible that a republican politician will lie just like a democrat politician when they want something or there is money to be made?

sure it is.. especially with the rino-wing of the party..

RINO republican politicians tend to call the lie a "compromise".. ,.. they resort to token votes.. and in general are about the same as a moderate democrat.. so yes the same could easily be said for republicans.. to see a clear difference one has to look at a conservative vs a liberal.. then it is easy to see who values principles.

political lies are about as common as politicians.. so most of US try to support the few with principles.. they are rare and don't seem to have a very long shelf life..

It is why I like the TEA Party.. they promote primary fights.,..

and I support term limits.
 

Faster horses

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Steve said:
smalltime said:
Is it possible that a republican politician will lie just like a democrat politician when they want something or there is money to be made?

sure it is.. especially with the rino-wing of the party..

RINO republican politicians tend to call the lie a "compromise".. ,.. they resort to token votes.. and in general are about the same as a moderate democrat.. so yes the same could easily be said for republicans.. to see a clear difference one has to look at a conservative vs a liberal.. then it is easy to see who values principles.

political lies are about as common as politicians.. so most of US try to support the few with principles.. they are rare and don't seem to have a very long shelf life..

It is why I like the TEA Party.. they promote primary fights.,..

and I support term limits.


:agree:

The way I see it, the Tea Party is the GOP's best hope, but the establishment still doesn't appear to see it, let alone embrace it.
 

Steve

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FasterHorses said:
The way I see it, the Tea Party is the GOP's best hope, but the establishment still doesn't appear to see it, let alone embrace it.

I think they see it ,.. but only as a threat to their elite power structure..
 

Tam

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I don't know about you guys but I really can't blame Cruz, Lee, Paul and others for going to the press to get their TEA PARTY SUPPORTED stories out. SURE it looks bad as in a split party as they are going around their leadership. BUT when you have a leader that will not listen to you and he is making it look like you too sold out to the Big Money Lobbyist of DC what are you to do? Boehner doesn't seem to care what the TEA Party candidates have to bring to the table even though it was the TEA PARTY that gave him the Speaker of the House Chair. He did not get there by himself and I wish he would remember that.

As I see it he is the biggest problem with getting anything done as if he can't negotiate a deal with his own party members what makes anyone believe he is going to negotiate a good deal with the Dems? One thing you can say about Pelosi, as much as I HATE THE DINGBAT, is she keeps her cult in line. If there is disagreement and we know there has been over Obamacare it is dealt with behind close doors and in the press there is a united story like it or not. That does not happen with Boehner, he goes to the press and whines about his own party members as much as he whines about the Dems. GREAT LEADERSHIP. :roll:

HE NEEDS TO GO and the Republicans need to get a true Conservative that cares about the whole membership of the party in the leadership roll. Until he is relieved of his duties he needs to grow a pair, stand up to Obama and Reid and say NO to yet more spending before they UNPATRIOTICALLY BANKRUPT THE US WITH THAT CHINESE CREDIT CARD OBAMA CLAIMED BUSH HAD.

It is way over time for Boehner to make Obama eat his campaign talk as that is all it was if the Republicans don't stand up and make him live up to it. Trouble is I don't see Boehner doing it as he has had 5 years and nothing but debt ceiling raises and more spending on stupid liberal studies that have not one damn thing to do with the Federal Governments RESPONSIBLITIES. :mad:
 
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