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Iraq upheaval threatens obamas legacy--AP

Mike

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As recently as January, Obama was dismissive of the al-Qaida breakaway Islamic militants. In an interview with the New Yorker magazine, he said comparing the group to the terrorist network established by Osama bin Laden was like comparing a junior varsity basketball team to an NBA squad.

Yet U.S. intelligence and defense officials were warning about the potential threat from the Islamic State, which had strengthened in Syria.

When was it he drew that "Red Line"? :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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obama supported their growth and strengthening in Syria.

Anybody wonder why obama is trying to strengthen the terrorists, by either giving them weapons, or overthrowing those that have been trying to control them?

What's going on in Libya lately?
 

loomixguy

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hypocritexposer said:
obama supported their growth and strengthening in Syria.

Anybody wonder why obama is trying to strengthen the terrorists, by either giving them weapons, or overthrowing those that have been trying to control them?

What's going on in Libya lately?

What's going on in Libya? Well, they are busy worshipping the same God as Old Taqiyya. :D

Allahu Akbar!
 

Traveler

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hypocritexposer said:
obama supported their growth and strengthening in Syria.

Anybody wonder why obama is trying to strengthen the terrorists, by either giving them weapons, or overthrowing those that have been trying to control them?

What's going on in Libya lately?
The Obama Muslim Brotherhood is gaining ground.
 

Steve

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Anybody wonder why obama

interesting question... I think it would be easy to blame it on his community organizer past... but beyond that only a far left liberal could "defend his legacy" ,.. :roll:

so why would a person work so hard to fail so miserably,..I guess only valerie jerret could explain her own motives..

(cause obama isn't much more then a puppet at this point)
 

Martin Jr.

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If Obama would take a hard line approach to ISIS and work to defeat them, even if sending troops would be needed, he would be disliked by many now, but would look better in years to come.
If he waits for Iraq to get its government organized, it will be too late.
 

Whitewing

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Obama's legacy isn't in any danger. It's alive and well and crossing the border between the US and Mexico as we speak.

Put a fork in it folks.
 

Steve

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Martin Jr. said:
If Obama would take a hard line approach to ISIS and work to defeat them, even if sending troops would be needed, he would be disliked by many now, but would look better in years to come.
If he waits for Iraq to get its government organized, it will be too late.

I actually find this one of those times I agree with his actions.. (a lot late and not enough for some) but at least allowing airstrikes is the right thing to do...

I think more Americans are now willing to beat back the barbarians,.. and break up Iraq, for the sake of peace.. it should have been done earlier..
 

Mike

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Whitewing said:
Obama's legacy isn't in any danger. It's alive and well and crossing the border between the US and Mexico as we speak.

Put a fork in it folks.

Yup. Dumbazzes like OT got all fired up when Bush was in office and an Immigration proposal was made.. But now??????? Not so much. :roll: :roll:

OT wrote on Sept 21, 2007; 11:03 A.M.
But that is not the idea- these are problems every civilized nation is expected to deal with, with its citizens--but these folks are not Americans-- they are ILLEGAL INVADERS-- in the country illegally and we the US citizen should not have to be worrying about them and the crimes they committ....They should be being stopped at the border- and those in the country deported...We already pay taxes which our President is sworn to use to secure our borders and protect our populace from foreign invaders...
That is where the major crime is being committed- and that is what is causing many the problems the states and local governments are facing...
GW is asleep at the wheel again...

SILENCE IS CONSENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
obama supported their growth and strengthening in Syria.

Anybody wonder why obama is trying to strengthen the terrorists, by either giving them weapons, or overthrowing those that have been trying to control them?

What's going on in Libya lately?

there may be a reason why obama is siding with the terrorists.. deep seated hatred for the Brits...

in the last few days I have seen quite a few conspiracy theories, amongst them.. a redrawing of the lines of the borders,.

and this fact is true to a point,... the middle east and parts of Africa are borders drawn up after WW1 and WW2,..

and those countries are held together for the most part by dictatorial rule.. (some kings, and some outright dictators)

while breaking up the countries is not a bad idea,.. it is one most would ask .. is it worth the cost in lives?

but not a question a person hell bent on destroying any last vestiges of the British empire would ask himself..

sounds a bit logical. ,.. but then I would ask,.. Why visit the queen then?,.. why not just snub her and the other royalty he bowed to?

do I see his plan... not yet.. but then I have trouble understanding most of what liberals think anyways..
 

Traveler

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Mike said:
Whitewing said:
Obama's legacy isn't in any danger. It's alive and well and crossing the border between the US and Mexico as we speak.

Put a fork in it folks.

Yup. Dumbazzes like OT got all fired up when Bush was in office and an Immigration proposal was made.. But now??????? Not so much. :roll: :roll:

OT wrote on Sept 21, 2007; 11:03 A.M.
But that is not the idea- these are problems every civilized nation is expected to deal with, with its citizens--but these folks are not Americans-- they are ILLEGAL INVADERS-- in the country illegally and we the US citizen should not have to be worrying about them and the crimes they committ....They should be being stopped at the border- and those in the country deported...We already pay taxes which our President is sworn to use to secure our borders and protect our populace from foreign invaders...
That is where the major crime is being committed- and that is what is causing many the problems the states and local governments are facing...
GW is asleep at the wheel again...

SILENCE IS CONSENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:
Now turning them back isn't "Christian". WTF happened?
 

loomixguy

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Old Taqiyya has been so saturated with his boy and the lawlessness and the culture of corruption that goes hand in hand with the liberal mindset that any Christian values he may have once had have been cast aside in favor of the teachings of the Prophet.

His silence when questioned directly about the horrific murders of innocent Christian men, women, and children by followers of the Prophet speaks volumes about his religious beliefs.
 

Whitewing

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Mike said:
Whitewing said:
Obama's legacy isn't in any danger. It's alive and well and crossing the border between the US and Mexico as we speak.

Put a fork in it folks.

Yup. Dumbazzes like OT got all fired up when Bush was in office and an Immigration proposal was made.. But now??????? Not so much. :roll: :roll:

OT wrote on Sept 21, 2007; 11:03 A.M.
But that is not the idea- these are problems every civilized nation is expected to deal with, with its citizens--but these folks are not Americans-- they are ILLEGAL INVADERS-- in the country illegally and we the US citizen should not have to be worrying about them and the crimes they committ....They should be being stopped at the border- and those in the country deported...We already pay taxes which our President is sworn to use to secure our borders and protect our populace from foreign invaders...
That is where the major crime is being committed- and that is what is causing many the problems the states and local governments are facing...
GW is asleep at the wheel again...

SILENCE IS CONSENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

Always fun to read OldMalleableConviction's words from when the white house was occupied by an (R) versus today's (D). Yet he'll accuse us all of marching lockstep with some unnamed pub leader.

He'd be nothing more than a funny fat joke if he didn't have the power to vote.
 
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Mike said:
Whitewing said:
Obama's legacy isn't in any danger. It's alive and well and crossing the border between the US and Mexico as we speak.

Put a fork in it folks.

Yup. Dumbazzes like OT got all fired up when Bush was in office and an Immigration proposal was made.. But now??????? Not so much. :roll: :roll:

OT wrote on Sept 21, 2007; 11:03 A.M.
But that is not the idea- these are problems every civilized nation is expected to deal with, with its citizens--but these folks are not Americans-- they are ILLEGAL INVADERS-- in the country illegally and we the US citizen should not have to be worrying about them and the crimes they committ....They should be being stopped at the border- and those in the country deported...We already pay taxes which our President is sworn to use to secure our borders and protect our populace from foreign invaders...
That is where the major crime is being committed- and that is what is causing many the problems the states and local governments are facing...
GW is asleep at the wheel again...

SILENCE IS CONSENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

I still believe pretty much the same- accept I've pretty much given up on it being an achievable belief... Not sure if we can tactically and logistically close the border so that illegals can't get in- nor can we deport all here- especially with all the families that would need to be broken up...

I believe the only way to solve the problem is strictly enforce the law against hiring illegals that was passed with the Reagan Amnesty- and pursue harsh penalties- and make them self deport...
BUT we also know the law has never been aggresively enforced (even Reagan didn't) and will never be enforced... And with that many folks wanting immigrants for labor- it appears to me that passing some new immigration laws might be the way to go...
Like I said before- I could see the handwriting on the wall after the introduction of the Bush/Kennedy/McCain Amnesty bill- and watched the hearings in Congress-- it was becoming a non-issue between parties... With Bush signing the Wilberforce law written as it is about proved it to me...
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
So..........you've given up completely now that Buckwheat is running the show? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gave up before that- that is the reason in the election of 2008 immigration was a non-issue to me... Obama or McCain- wouldn't have mattered...
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
So..........you've given up completely now that Buckwheat is running the show? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gave up before that- that is the reason in the election of 2008 immigration was a non-issue to me... Obama or McCain- wouldn't have mattered...

Well, you're a phucking wimp then. People don't give up their principles. :roll: I know I don't........

But in response to your answer. You don't really believe that McCain would have thrown the borders wide open like Buckwheat has do you? Careful........don't get caught lying again!!! :shock:
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Whitewing said:
Obama's legacy isn't in any danger. It's alive and well and crossing the border between the US and Mexico as we speak.

Put a fork in it folks.

Yup. Dumbazzes like OT got all fired up when Bush was in office and an Immigration proposal was made.. But now??????? Not so much. :roll: :roll:

OT wrote on Sept 21, 2007; 11:03 A.M.
But that is not the idea- these are problems every civilized nation is expected to deal with, with its citizens--but these folks are not Americans-- they are ILLEGAL INVADERS-- in the country illegally and we the US citizen should not have to be worrying about them and the crimes they committ....They should be being stopped at the border- and those in the country deported...We already pay taxes which our President is sworn to use to secure our borders and protect our populace from foreign invaders...
That is where the major crime is being committed- and that is what is causing many the problems the states and local governments are facing...
GW is asleep at the wheel again...

SILENCE IS CONSENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

I still believe pretty much the same- accept I've pretty much given up on it being an achievable belief... Not sure if we can tactically and logistically close the border so that illegals can't get in- nor can we deport all here- especially with all the families that would need to be broken up...

I believe the only way to solve the problem is strictly enforce the law against hiring illegals that was passed with the Reagan Amnesty- and pursue harsh penalties- and make them self deport...
BUT we also know the law has never been aggresively enforced (even Reagan didn't) and will never be enforced... And with that many folks wanting immigrants for labor- it appears to me that passing some new immigration laws might be the way to go...
Like I said before- I could see the handwriting on the wall after the introduction of the Bush/Kennedy/McCain Amnesty bill- and watched the hearings in Congress-- it was becoming a non-issue between parties... With Bush signing the Wilberforce law written as it is about proved it to me...

Dumb ass is against breaking up families unless it is for the right cause... more demwitted voters, then he's okay with taking on millions of family-less dependents.
 

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