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Is competition a good thing?

Is competition a good thing?

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  • No

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Econ101

Well-known member
It all depends in the definition. Producer welfare can be in question when it comes to the global games of trade (in college I helped compile trade data for an economic review of exchange rates and ag. trade for a book).

Here is a link to the discussions on WTO on agriculutural global trade and ramnifications for producers:

http://tinyurl.com/m2et7

After reading the article you can see how pertinent understanding the topic and narrowing down the scope of your discussion will lead to answers that can be used. Globalization and trade based on price only will create wealth---the question is who is getting wealthy and off the whose backs that wealth comes.

And Pointrider, I just found the article today and had no input in it.
 

HAY MAKER

Well-known member
competition creates fairness,which the cattle industry sorely needs,sh the packer lover believes the less competition the packer has, the more they will give for cattle,this gives you an idea of his mental state.....................good luck

PS I can hardly wait till there is just one packer LOL :wink:
 

pointrider

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Dear Econ 101,

Did you vote? If you did, then, of course, we will know that you voted YES, because the poll is 100% YES so far. If you did not vote, then that would be because I did not include a "DEPENDS" category judging by your comment.

Before I go on, let me say that I did not vote. I did not want to skew the results since I asked the question. So, this leads us to a couple of observations. First, as stated earlier, the votes as of the last time I looked were 100% YES, but, at the same time, only 10% of the people who looked at the question voted. Does this mean that the other 90% would have voted NO, but didn't want to expose themselves to comments that were sure to come after that kind of answer? Maybe. Maybe not. No way to know. Perhaps a lot of folks just didn't feel like they should a minute to vote.

I did not include a DEPENDS category on purpose. I wanted to see what a simple YES and NO would bring. And, basically, it is a simple matter. You either believe in it or not, even with the kinds of imperfections that you mention which always have to be fought out to level the playing field. I am pleasantly surprised that the vote so far is 100% YES. This proves there is hope for the cow-calf industry for it is surely competitive whether the individual members want it to be or not.

Now for the other question. Why do you spend so much time on Ranchers.net? You have stated many times how much needs to be done to correct the problems in USDA and GIPSA. You just got through making comments again about potential abuses. Why aren't you spending your time making things right, or do you believe that convincing the Ranchers.net group about the problems is the first necessary step in getting those changes made?

Just curious.
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
LOL Its a catch 22 question for some of the ones on here who want to eliminate other producers to get rid of competition but at the same time they want more competition competing or bidding on there product <packers> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

RobertMac

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Pointrider, most all forms of competition have rules to be followed. Your question is so 'general' as to leave it open to the idea of 'unfair' competition, which is not a good thing. There are laws in the business community to regulate competition and these laws need to be enforced to provide 'fair' competition. The more concentrated the market, the more important the need for these laws to be enforced.

Just what are you fishing for???

RoperAB, if your beef was identified as a "Product of Canada" to the consumer, there would be competition...selling it as perceived USA beef is not competitive.
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
RobertMac said:
RoperAB, if your beef was identified as a "Product of Canada" to the consumer, there would be competition...selling it as perceived USA beef is not competitive.

That has nothing to do with closeing the border to Canadian beef <although they dont say much about exporting to countries like Japan>and to have the government say which Americans can own cattle.
LOL Read the R-calf web site and read about the slippery slopes they want to go down.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
RoperAB said:
RobertMac said:
RoperAB, if your beef was identified as a "Product of Canada" to the consumer, there would be competition...selling it as perceived USA beef is not competitive.

That has nothing to do with closeing the border to Canadian beef <although they dont say much about exporting to countries like Japan>and to have the government say which Americans can own cattle.
LOL Read the R-calf web site and read about the slippery slopes they want to go down.

Not following the rules of trade robertmac talked about is the government saying which americans can own cattle, Roper. It happens economically.

Just think about who is owning more and more of them.

It is not the little guy.

All price suppression via market power will concentrate the markets in the hands of the few.
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
RoperAB said:
RobertMac said:
RoperAB, if your beef was identified as a "Product of Canada" to the consumer, there would be competition...selling it as perceived USA beef is not competitive.

That has nothing to do with closeing the border to Canadian beef <although they dont say much about exporting to countries like Japan>and to have the government say which Americans can own cattle.
LOL Read the R-calf web site and read about the slippery slopes they want to go down.

Not following the rules of trade robertmac talked about is the government saying which americans can own cattle, Roper. It happens economically.

Just think about who is owning more and more of them.

It is not the little guy.

All price suppression via market power will concentrate the markets in the hands of the few.

Econ it can be done!
Here is my plan. First off I need some partners. We need a wrangler, cook, cooks flunky<me> and riders<dont forget about night gaurd>.
We will meet and buy steers in Northern SK. Then we will trail them slowly to Lethbridge AB. There is lots of ditch hay and road allowances up here. If we go 8 to 10 miles a day they should be fat by the time we get to the auction mart in Lethbrige.
 

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