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Is it ok?

CattleArmy

Well-known member
Ok so I admit to it and even find that some on here calling me the Gay Avenger is funny. I do support Gay civil unions. See I don't have to use the marriage word. In my opinion consenting adults who want to make a commitment to one another when both parties are human I'm all for. In fact I'd go as far as to say civil unions for everyone at the courthouse. Each couple that was of legal age and consentual age would go to the court house and have a civil union then those couples (even if you want to limit it to heterosexual couples) that desire God to be a part of their union go on for the white wedding and get married.

Ok, so everyone here knows this is my opinion. I share it openly with all of you on the forum and even know that other individuals on the world wide web occassionaly read what I type. However, they don't know who I am here in real life. Actually some here don't know me in real life and some do.

Now on to my point. Is it ok for posters that you have shared your identity with that you also know in real life to share what you say on the internet? This afternoon as I raked hay I continplated this very question back and forth trying to decide what is right and what is wrong. You wonder why I'm wondering this. Simply a new aquaintance of mine was able to share with with a member of my family how a poster on here that knows me in real life for some odd reason felt compeled to judge me and share why with this random person. I'm not sure what was to be gained by it and honestly I don't care. I just can't imagine being so disgusted and holy then thou that I'd just have to say to someone well I wouldn't get along with that person or like someone or whatever simply because they support gay marriage.

First of all very few people in real life know what i do and don't support such as issues as this because really how often do you sit in the gas station or the golf greens and say "What do you think about gay marriage?" Or how often do you at either of those places share really anything to much other then how's haying? how much rain did you get? did you make par? Are gas prices going to go higher? And other idel chat like that.

I'm not afraid or embarassed to support gay unions. As many of you know I have a very dear friend that I grew up with that is homosexual and I have stated I hope to some day be his best girl at his own union. People don't choose who they love or even the reasons they do. Love and the true feeling of it as most of us know is out of our control. I however, don't feel it's right or in good taste for these two items to occur:

1. Sharing a posters name and their id they use with people in real life. If I want someone to know who I am on here I will tell them. It's nobodies business to do it.

2. If I want random Joe Blow here in real life to know what I do and don't support it's up to me to tell it. Not busy bodies spreading gossip and their own agenda. Crap like this can take the fun and debate out of this forum.

Now everyone please have a fantastic day and let's all remember the fun of debate and the differences of opinions is what keeps this site interesting, informative, and even educational at times.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Is it proper, that's debatable.

anytime you put "yourself" out there it is a possibility, if you want your opinions and thoughts kept private, then keep your identity private.

I should add, debatable due to subject.

In regards to this subject, I do not believe anybody should be the subject of personal attacks etc
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
Okay Cattlearmy. You have a right to feel the way you feel.

I am biased the opposite direction.

I have been called a racist, I am not.

I have been called a homophobe here too. I'm not scared of them. It is more a case of not wanting to live near them, shop at a store with them, or be around them in any way. That lifestyle simply goes against my principles, convictions, and belief. I don't want that life style crammed down my throat or paraded in front of me.
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Once you confide in someone, no matter what the subject, it has a very strong chance of becoming public knowledge, sad but true!
More time than not it can be used against you if desired!

Oldtimer once chastised several of us for not revealing our identity and he wonders why some of refused to do so!
Once your identity is out there you are fair game for whatever occurs,.

Sorry CA, but that is life
 

CattleArmy

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
Okay Cattlearmy. You have a right to feel the way you feel.

I am biased the opposite direction.

I have been called a racist, I am not.

I have been called a homophobe here too. I'm not scared of them. It is more a case of not wanting to live near them, shop at a store with them, or be around them in any way. That lifestyle simply goes against my principles, convictions, and belief. I don't want that life style crammed down my throat or paraded in front of me.


I can disagree with you and you can with me it's what makes us all unique is our differences. I know myself I can get into heated arguments here in internet land over what I believe in strongly.

Hopalong for once I agree with you also that it is my own fault for putting myself out there and I should have used better judgement.

It's not that I'm embarassed by supporting my views. It's not even that I wouldn't share my view here in real life if it was brought up. It's just the fact that most topics debated on this forum I wouldn't discuss with my neighbors as we are more concerned with haying and ranching when we get together or what is going on in the community.

In my opinion it's not proper to share the identity of posters or their thoughts that are shared in this forum out in people's real life.

I made a mistake learn from it.
 

nonothing

Well-known member
I think it is sad that people speak for other people with out that persons consent.....I also dissagree that just because you post on an internet site your fair game....Honestly I think it sucks that people take whats said here off line.....If someone did that to me,I would walk up to them and drive them in the teeth ,but thats me....
 

alice

Well-known member
1. Sharing a posters name and their id they use with people in real life. If I want someone to know who I am on here I will tell them. It's nobodies business to do it.

Of course it is not right to do that...but then you cannot depend on everyone to "do right"...especially on the internet.

The internet is a wonderful thing...and it can be a vicious thing...

My family, I can trust completely...and I have one friend that I can trust completely...that's it....

I'm sorry this has happened to you, CA...you are a good person...take this as a live and learn lesson...

Alice
 

MsSage

Well-known member
OK first off uuggggg thanks for having gay in this topic cuz now we get to look at the hunky guys on a gay cruise LOL :?

As for talking about what you believe in everyday life...I do it all the time. People here know how I feel and I knwo how they feel about life, religion, politics but then I have been accused of talking too much. BUT I can tell you just as much about those with whom I talk. NO I dont agree with everything that everyone I talk to believes in. That doesnt matter. I judge based on charector.
As for sharing your personal info...sorry but if you POST it out in the open its already OUT there and PUBLIC knowledge. It can be accessed by anyone at anytime for any reason.
If your info was shared via PM and then passed on that is WRONG. BUT as you have learned and some are learning now pm's on this site are not private and sometimes the person your pm'ing will use your info as fodder and to gain whatever from another.
If your info was given out withOUT your permission I am sorry you are learning that lesson. Whom ever should be put out there so others will know and maybe peer pressure they will learn how to keep things shared personal.

As for the person judgeing you...how can you be sure they havent read this forum and are just using that one issue as the reason but its that and some of your posts they do not like....Is that a reason NOT to like someone...NO but we are human.
You have to understand words have meaning and we have to accept the consequences of our words be it good or bad.
 

burnt

Well-known member
Well CA, I see why you would think that way, but you forgot what www. stands for.

And that is what I try to keep drilling into my family's heads - what they put out there is like permanent marker - it's unerasable.

I have neighbors that are familiar with this site and that I know can identify me, and I don't care what they think of what I post.

And I'm pretty sure that they don't care what I post, either.
 

Steve

Well-known member
I don't think I would have spoken out publicly against a person that posts on here.. even if I knew them or disliked them.. but then I;ve never been in that situation..

I think the "community" online has grown and many know what and who is posting.. so in way, having a conversation on the internet is like shouting it across main street..

the comment might have been directed to a certain person.. but every one can hear it.. or read it in the case of the internet..

so type or say only what you mean.. and remember to be a bit civil as some one might repeat your public words locally.. (in my opinion Cattle Army has always been civil and a real nice person to argue with)...
 

Soapweed

Well-known member
CattleArmy said:
Ok so I admit to it and even find that some on here calling me the Gay Avenger is funny. I do support Gay civil unions. See I don't have to use the marriage word. In my opinion consenting adults who want to make a commitment to one another when both parties are human I'm all for. In fact I'd go as far as to say civil unions for everyone at the courthouse. Each couple that was of legal age and consentual age would go to the court house and have a civil union then those couples (even if you want to limit it to heterosexual couples) that desire God to be a part of their union go on for the white wedding and get married.

Ok, so everyone here knows this is my opinion. I share it openly with all of you on the forum and even know that other individuals on the world wide web occassionaly read what I type. However, they don't know who I am here in real life. Actually some here don't know me in real life and some do.

Now on to my point. Is it ok for posters that you have shared your identity with that you also know in real life to share what you say on the internet? This afternoon as I raked hay I continplated this very question back and forth trying to decide what is right and what is wrong. You wonder why I'm wondering this. Simply a new aquaintance of mine was able to share with with a member of my family how a poster on here that knows me in real life for some odd reason felt compeled to judge me and share why with this random person. I'm not sure what was to be gained by it and honestly I don't care. I just can't imagine being so disgusted and holy then thou that I'd just have to say to someone well I wouldn't get along with that person or like someone or whatever simply because they support gay marriage.

First of all very few people in real life know what i do and don't support such as issues as this because really how often do you sit in the gas station or the golf greens and say "What do you think about gay marriage?" Or how often do you at either of those places share really anything to much other then how's haying? how much rain did you get? did you make par? Are gas prices going to go higher? And other idel chat like that.

I'm not afraid or embarassed to support gay unions. As many of you know I have a very dear friend that I grew up with that is homosexual and I have stated I hope to some day be his best girl at his own union. People don't choose who they love or even the reasons they do. Love and the true feeling of it as most of us know is out of our control. I however, don't feel it's right or in good taste for these two items to occur:

1. Sharing a posters name and their id they use with people in real life. If I want someone to know who I am on here I will tell them. It's nobodies business to do it.

2. If I want random Joe Blow here in real life to know what I do and don't support it's up to me to tell it. Not busy bodies spreading gossip and their own agenda. Crap like this can take the fun and debate out of this forum.

Now everyone please have a fantastic day and let's all remember the fun of debate and the differences of opinions is what keeps this site interesting, informative, and even educational at times.

Joined: 29 Sep 2006
Posts: 3353
Location: South of a Soapweed and approx. 90 miles from WTF Nebraska

Okay, CattleArmy, you and I both live in one of the best cattle producing regions in the world. Though the human population of this area is very small (and I happen to very much like it that way), we tend to know each other for miles and miles. About ninety-nine percent of these good people pack both guns and common sense, and they are Conservatives. Liberals living in the area tend to stick out like sore thumbs.

In the very gas station to which you refer, there is a sign that proclaims: "There is not much to see in a small town, but what you hear more than makes up for it." Though it is posted "tongue-in-cheek," there is oh, so much truth to that statement. Contrary to what Liberal elitists think about those of us dwelling in the Sandhills, we do converse about more than just the weather, how haying is going, how much rain we got, and how high is gas going to go. :roll:

Some of us truly love our country, and this includes both America in general and the Sandhills in particular. Looking at your avatar line, where you mention WTF Nebraska, possibly you don't share our love for the Sandhills. In your avatar line, you also specifically use my name Soapweed as the cornerstone showing where you live. I have never made any deep dark secret as to who I am and where I live. If you are using me (without my permission, I might add), as the cornerstone to who you are, it should not surprise you that quite a significant number of people might just know who you are.

If a person has convictions, stand up for them. Don't be weak and wobbly and try to hide in a closet. One of my best friends is an old guy who could be considered a "cowboy Liberal." I know, that is an oxymoron, and though because of being a Liberal I consider him a moron, he is still my friend. :wink: We have traveled for miles and miles together, alternating between amiably arguing politics and exchanging cowboy stories.

If you wear your heart on your sleeve, and use your T-shirt to post bumper stickers, don't be surprised if your hand occasionally gets called. Be prepared and stand up for your convictions. Otherwise, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
You said that very well Soap.

I would hope no one ever says anything on here that they wouldn't say in person. If you have convictions on the internet why wouldn't you have them in "REAL" life.
 

alice

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
You said that very well Soap.

I would hope no one ever says anything on here that they wouldn't say in person. If you have convictions on the internet why wouldn't you have them in "REAL" life.

Well, will wonders never cease. Big Muddy, you and I have now agreed on something.

Alice
 

Mike

Well-known member
CRM - being supportive of the rights of gay people to have a happy life is something you should be proud of.

Has anyone ever said they wanted to deny a gay person a "happy" life?

I think not. All anyone wants them to do is play by the rules of society and the rules everyone else plays by.

When rules are thrown out the window, chaos climbs in...............
 

nonothing

Well-known member
I do not think it matters if its on line or off line,your opinion is yours to share.It is not someone else's right to pass your opinion on to others just because you said it...To many people will take the context and twist and turn it for their own agenda,you may of said something in a totally different context to how it was repeated.....No matter what people like Soapweed say,it is not his or anyone else business to repeat my words to others when I am not involved personally in the conversation......Its called gossip then and as I said befor,if someone did that to me ,I would drive them in the teeth,even if there is a sign condoning gossip right in front of me.....
 
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