Nalen said:
Oldtimer said:
I don't think anyone in government called them a "Czar"- nor is that the title given them in the legislation....The first I heard the "Czar" name mentioned was by the rightwingernuts in their fearmongering- and backslapping of the insurance industry....
And just like every other position in a representative form of a Republic- they are to be appointed by the President- need confirmation by the Senate and will oversee a panel made up of Healthcare Professionals from all segments of the Health Providers...
So Nalen- you are one of the ones that support that those that can't afford or just go without insurance should just be thrown onto the street corner to die.... :???:
How about those that have preexisting conditions that can't get any insurance-- or those who lose their jobs- and insurance- and then can't get any private carrier to cover them :???:
And as I said in my post to Silver-- the intention of this board is not to limit services provided under the health care plans (both private and public) but setting a standard for a minimum that must be provided- and continulally updating that minimum- especially for the many new treatments- that most insurance companies now refuse to pay for....Essentially improving and extending the amount of care that insurance providers must provide and cover if someones Doctor thinks it correct treatment or needed....Giving the treatment decisions back to your Doctor, rather than in the hands of the Insurance company like they are now....
Alright smart guy what would you say if I told you
I don't have insurance? Would that burst your little bubble about me saying that those without or who can't afford it just be thrown to the curb to die. What I said was they get treated but pay the bill off over time. Much like a car loan but without interest. If I am provided a service I feel obligated to pay it back. Thats what seperates me from the "give me more free sh*t, I'm an American and I deserve it" crowd. If God forbid something happens and I need the care I plan on payin it back, not welching like liberals feel they should be able to do. People have a choice, thats what this whole thing is about. Can't you see that. I don't have insurance because I don't feel I need it right now. I'm young and in good health and do the things to stay that way when I hit 35 I plan on getting it.
But the many should not be taxed for the few who feel that they do not need to pay the ridiculous amounts for insurance. Open up state borders and let insurance companies compete for business and you will see an enormous drop in the prices of coverage. That would be a huge first step towards real reform.
But we already are paying for you- or those like you that end up in an accident or with a catastrophic illness-- and no matter what they say- couldn't pay it off in their lifetimes...We pay because these bills have to be wrote off- and the cost is added to the charges the health care providers charge those that do have insurance or can pay- so in return the insurance companies raise the cost for their insurance to make up for the higher cost health care charges...
Complete CATCH-22.....
And I don't know where you will find a hospital that doesn't charge interest- in fact most are filing suit for a total judgement if you miss one payment....Like I've said- the number of cases just coming thru my rural court has probably increased 250% in the last few years...And all those that they get judgements against- now have a big red X across their credit ratings for anything they wish to purchase any time from now til they get the bill paid off-- which many couldn't do in a lifetime....
I saw a young guy the other day that was in his 30's- perfect health- never been sick a day--athletic-- dropped over unconcious and not breathing....Luckily some folks that knew CPR were right there- got to hospital- stabilized- flown to major hospital- had numerous bypass's- and then to top it got a staph infection- and ended up in the hospital for another week....Luckily he has insurance thru his work--but if he didn't I'd estimate his bill to be pushing $300,000 to half a mill...
Remember Stran Smith- the young PRCA calf roper that had a stroke shortly after he and Jennifer were married... :???:
And some of those that have had to go thru several cancer surgeries and chemo treatments in their fight against that wicked disease have had bills in Millions $... Many of those were not even adults yet....
I think you are stupidly playing with fire- and your future- let alone gambling with mine and responsible folks finances...