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Is this an example of disrespect for laws or Religion?

hypocritexposer

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Sacred worship, duty to law pitted
ICE agent removes man, 31, during church service
By SUSAN CARROLL Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
Feb. 18, 2009, 10:43PM
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Johnny Hanson Chronicle

Ana Maria Hernandez (with a picture of her son) says little respect was shown for the church where he was arrested.

On a Sunday morning, in a church sanctuary near Conroe, an off-duty immigration agent tapped Jose Juan Hernandez on the shoulder and asked him to step outside.

A 31-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico with three prior deportations, Hernandez quietly followed the agent and promptly was detained on suspicion of illegal re-entry after deportation, said Gregory Palmore, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman in Houston.

The case would be unremarkable, except for the setting. The fact that Hernandez was detained in church has sparked controversy locally. Hernandez was arrested Oct. 26, pleaded guilty to the re-entry charge this month and is scheduled for sentencing in April. He remains in federal detention in Conroe. Hernandez’s attorney, Rick Soliz, said he plans to file a complaint against the ICE agent in connection with the arrest.

“I wonder what the agent was thinking, if he was thinking at all,” Soliz said. “How do you decide to do that in the middle of a religious service?”
 

kolanuraven

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The story says the officer ' tapped' this man on the shoulder and asked him to step outside and it states that the illegal man quietly followed .


Doors weren't knocked down, pepper spray used nor none of the like.


It reads as if it was done quietly and properly.


I see no problem here.
 

hopalong

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kolanuraven said:
The story says the officer ' tapped' this man on the shoulder and asked him to step outside and it states that the illegal man quietly followed .


Doors weren't knocked down, pepper spray used nor none of the like.


It reads as if it was done quietly and properly.


I see no problem here.

How would you react had it been you in the middle of a prayer??
 

kolanuraven

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If it's not me the law is looking for....and they don't come in kicking down doors, and spraying pepper spray at random.... then it's not my problem.

It's the problem of this guy who KNOWINGLY broke the law.

It sounds as if this was taken care of properly and quietly.
 

Mike

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hopalong said:
kolanuraven said:
The story says the officer ' tapped' this man on the shoulder and asked him to step outside and it states that the illegal man quietly followed .


Doors weren't knocked down, pepper spray used nor none of the like.


It reads as if it was done quietly and properly.


I see no problem here.

How would you react had it been you in the middle of a prayer??

I would have realized that my prayers weren't working and immediately started praying harder. :lol:
 

Martin Jr.

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If the ICE agent had been a gentleman he would have waited until the service ended. But ICE agents are not trained to be gentlemen.
 

aplusmnt

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I think it was a smart agent, easy arrest, the guy is on his knees with his hands together praying in the perfect handcuff position! Smart agent!
 

TexasBred

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kolanuraven said:
The story says the officer ' tapped' this man on the shoulder and asked him to step outside and it states that the illegal man quietly followed .


Doors weren't knocked down, pepper spray used nor none of the like.


It reads as if it was done quietly and properly.


I see no problem here.

I agree Kola....AND no church should be a refuge for illegals. Let him finish his prayers in Mexico.
 

hypocritexposer

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The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is angered over a case revolving around the arrest of the brother-in-law of a top Osama bin Laden lieutenant in Southern California's suburban Orange County. Ahmadullah Sais Niazi is accused of lying to immigration officials about his relationship with al Qaeda and other Islamist terror groups.

But this is CAIR, so you're pretty much already prepared to learn that their outrage had nothing to do with an alleged terror sympathizer among them. What outraged CAIR?

Ayloush said he was "100% sure" that Monteilh was the informant in question and expressed anger and disappointment that the FBI would infiltrate mosques. He accused officials of trying to entrap innocent Muslims, noting that Monteilh has been convicted of grand theft and forgery in the past. He said Muslims had worked hard to develop a partnership with the FBI -- and had been assured by J. Steven Tidwell, then assistant director in charge of the Los Angeles field office, at an Irvine forum in 2006 that their mosques were not being monitored. Now, Ayloush said, he has doubts about future relations with the FBI.

"This is religious profiling at its worst," Ayloush said about the FBI operation.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-informant26-2009feb26,0,5747804,full.story
 
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