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Is This Invasive?

Steve

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if they (and us) actually locked up pedophiles and had a humane way of dealing with child predators, this might not be needed...

as a parent who has and frequently does drive or am around children I would find it a bit insulting.. and feel that it would shut off many who normally volunteer ... but.. I would comply... why?.. child protection isn't about my feeling insulted.. it is about stopping real predators from destroying children..

yes it is invasive... and would trample one our rights .. but sometimes the cost of a child's rights is an adults rights..


why limit it to just those who are around children.. ??

in fact every adult should be screened and any one who might abuse a child should be terminated..
 

alice

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It is about ensuring that those people who have already been dismissed by their employers for inappropriate behaviour with children do not simply up sticks and move elsewhere

If this is what it's about, and I have no reason to think otherwise, then hell no it's not invasive! Anymore in public schools here in Texas, anyone that wants to attend a field trip or work with kids in classrooms have to undergo a background check. That goes for any adult...mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, grandma, grandpa...any of them.

Since my volunteer work is with children, I had to undergo an extensive background check. Didn't bother me in the slightest...since the kids that us volunteers work with have more than likely been been subjected to the horrors of sexual abuse.

It's a shame that its come to this kind of action, but it's a worse shame for little ones to be sexually abused. They need protection from these monsters, and if this kind of program is what it takes, I say be thankful it's been implemented!

Alice
 

alice

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Steve said:
if they (and us) actually locked up pedophiles and had a humane way of dealing with child predators, this might not be needed...

as a parent who has and frequently does drive or am around children I would find it a bit insulting.. and feel that it would shut off many who normally volunteer ... but.. I would comply... why?.. child protection isn't about my feeling insulted.. it is about stopping real predators from destroying children..

yes it is invasive... and would trample one our rights .. but sometimes the cost of a child's rights is an adults rights..


why limit it to just those who are around children.. ??

in fact every adult should be screened and any one who might abuse a child should be terminated..

if they (and us) actually locked up pedophiles and had a humane way of dealing with child predators, this might not be needed...

Cannot totally agree with you here, Steve. First, children need to be protected from pedophiles before the sorry bastards get their hands on them.

Second, a humane way of dealing with child predators? Humane? Far as I'm concerned they should be put in the cell with bubba...before they are executed.

Alice
 

Steve

Well-known member
alice said:
Steve said:
if they (and us) actually locked up pedophiles and had a humane way of dealing with child predators, this might not be needed...

as a parent who has and frequently does drive or am around children I would find it a bit insulting.. and feel that it would shut off many who normally volunteer ... but.. I would comply... why?.. child protection isn't about my feeling insulted.. it is about stopping real predators from destroying children..

yes it is invasive... and would trample one our rights .. but sometimes the cost of a child's rights is an adults rights..


why limit it to just those who are around children.. ??

in fact every adult should be screened and any one who might abuse a child should be terminated..

if they (and us) actually locked up pedophiles and had a humane way of dealing with child predators, this might not be needed...

Cannot totally agree with you here, Steve. First, children need to be protected from pedophiles before the sorry bastards get their hands on them.

Second, a humane way of dealing with child predators? Humane? Far as I'm concerned they should be put in the cell with bubba...before they are executed.

Alice

and whats not humane about your approach? seems to me like your a bit soft on them.. Bubba?... how about Bubba's momma.. ?
 

hillsdown

Well-known member
I had a friend of mine that wanted to coach or assit. coach a "real football" team meaning soccer to some of you :lol: ..
He didn't do it because of all the loop holes te background check and getting finger printed attending a 4 hour seminar ..Blah blah blah..


All I could say was "are you kidding me your kids are in this league I think it is great that the coaches and volunteers need BG checks" ,,,WTF..

I don't even have kids but I am glad someone is trying to look out for them..

Go the extra mile and get a check,, volunteer and make a POSITIVE difference in a child's life. I have many mentors a few are employers, but alot are my sport coaches and my teachers when I was young.. They were all great people.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Kind of funny to me, kind of stupid and then kind of pitifull these people even being asked to submit to a background check. They should refuse till Obama submits to one!

Think about it the president of the U.S. WHO CAN AND HAS DONE MUCH HARM TO EVERY CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY GETS A FREE PASS ON HIS BACKGROUND. Can we say racist double standard.

Oh and for Alice where is your concern for all of Americas children that are being harmed and their futures destroyed by POTUS and all of the lis policies.
 

alice

Well-known member
Pig Farmer said:
Kind of funny to me, kind of stupid and then kind of pitifull these people even being asked to submit to a background check. They should refuse till Obama submits to one!

Think about it the president of the U.S. WHO CAN AND HAS DONE MUCH HARM TO EVERY CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY GETS A FREE PASS ON HIS BACKGROUND. Can we say racist double standard.

Oh and for Alice where is your concern for all of Americas children that are being harmed and their futures destroyed by POTUS and all of the lis policies.

I'd like to say this was ignorance. But, I have empathy for ignorance. You sir, are sick...mentally and morally sick.

Alice
 
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Anonymous

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reader (the Second) said:
Pig Farmer this article is not from the United States. This is not about the U.S.

Reader I dont give a crap where the article is from! What the post is about is possible harm of children. How many women or children do you think are being exploited today because of the inabilaty to survive financialy here in America?

Why don't you deal with the substance of my post? Obama is leading the strongest and greatest nation in the world next {to Israel} into the pits of financial ruin. From which we will never recover. He is also leading by being deceptive and untruthfull. I am quite sure in your and Alices eyes its ok to teach children character does not matter. When people lose their integrity what else follows? Just how low do they sink?

The man has never ran a company passed a background check on who he really is or anything. Matter of fact his past is sealed like someone in protective custody. Harm comes in more than one form. Why not deal also with him and his coherts and how many people have been destroyed who choose to stand against him? Is that not harm also? How about the art of deception to reach out and take from the haves to give to the have not's. Wait I get it It's not about wrong It's simply what the left and right chooses to deem as wrong.

You present yourself as one of Jewish decent. Was the destruction and taking of the wealth by hitler from the Jews not harm? While we are talking about that lets not forget that the jews were told as they boarded the trains they were going to places to work or different camps. Wasn't the news media silenced and the truth kept from these people?

If one cannot Govern from a level playing field then what are his motives?
 
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Anonymous

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alice said:
Pig Farmer said:
Kind of funny to me, kind of stupid and then kind of pitifull these people even being asked to submit to a background check. They should refuse till Obama submits to one!

Think about it the president of the U.S. WHO CAN AND HAS DONE MUCH HARM TO EVERY CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY GETS A FREE PASS ON HIS BACKGROUND. Can we say racist double standard.

Oh and for Alice where is your concern for all of Americas children that are being harmed and their futures destroyed by POTUS and all of the lis policies.

I'd like to say this was ignorance. But, I have empathy for ignorance. You sir, are sick...mentally and morally sick.

Alice


I hate it that you are barn blind and feal that harm comes only in one form. I do believe that you having a double standard would constitute the highest degree of mental sickness. So welcome to the club.

I read the other day where you posted that you had lots of differences with Obama. Why don't you enlighten everyone on here maybe just maybe you know some things we don't! Being as you are barn blind I highly doubt it. :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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One more thing Reader.

Are you missing the facts that our Goverment is following in the footsteps of the rest of the world and their policies? We no longer set the bar. Instead we go about apologizing for being a bunch of low life American's.

We now seek to apease the muslims and the rest of the world.

No thats him not anyone of a sound mind. The world would have crumbled a long time ago except for this great nation and the sacrifices of the AMERICAN PEOPLE. You see reader Americans in times past never complained about sharing for the sake of liberty and freedom of others. There is a difference today we are being asked to share for reperations and a group of people that are to lazy to get off their arses and make it for themselves. Now before anyone plays the race card low lifes come in all skin colors.
 
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Anonymous

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alice said:
It is about ensuring that those people who have already been dismissed by their employers for inappropriate behaviour with children do not simply up sticks and move elsewhere

If this is what it's about, and I have no reason to think otherwise, then hell no it's not invasive! Anymore in public schools here in Texas, anyone that wants to attend a field trip or work with kids in classrooms have to undergo a background check. That goes for any adult...mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, grandma, grandpa...any of them.

Since my volunteer work is with children, I had to undergo an extensive background check. Didn't bother me in the slightest...since the kids that us volunteers work with have more than likely been been subjected to the horrors of sexual abuse.

It's a shame that its come to this kind of action, but it's a worse shame for little ones to be sexually abused. They need protection from these monsters, and if this kind of program is what it takes, I say be thankful it's been implemented!

Alice

You best hope they don't start asking you to submit to a mental evaluation. If and when they do you will likely be banned from participating any further with children. :p :???:

I bet they would have to go no further than some of your post's on here to see just how easily you become rattled. :(
 
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