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nortexsook

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Obama to Regulate Farmers, Ranchers and Gardeners - fast tracking HR 875 and Senate 425

Bill HR 875 and Senate Bill 425, The Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009, introduced by Representative DeLauro who is married to Stanley Greenburg an executive of agricultural giant Monsanto. The Food Safety and Modernization Act of 2009 is sponsored by several Agriculture giants including Monsanto, Cargill, Tyson and ADM.

The idea behind the law is to provide the government the ability to trace every aspect of food from where it is grown, grows or is caught to where it is consumed. The Bill allows the government to completely regulate and trace every aspect of how food is handled. It allows the government to regulate and trace what chemicals and fertilizers are used in growing food and to mandate the use of certain pesticides and chemicals to keep the food to government quality and safety standards. It allows the government to mandate the use of hormones, vaccines, medicines and chemicals for those who raise animals. The rules will apply equally to farmers, ranchers, fishermen, butchers, bakers, and etc. The Bill mandates keeping samples and records so that compliance with the new federal rules can be audited and verified. For "free roaming" animals such as cattle, it may require 24 hour GPS tracking.

Under the Bill, the Department of Agriculture would have the power to inspect farms, gardens, ranches, fishing boats, hotdog stands, vegetable markets and etc., at will. They would have the power to demand the production of records and samples at will from those growing, catching or handling food. The Bill binds State Agricultural departments to enforce the new Federal regulations and will supersede many state agricultural laws.

The penalties for non-compliance are draconian including the power to seize land, impose criminal penalties, impose fines up to $1,000,000. The Bill even applies to gardeners who could have their homes and gardens seized and could be fined.

The rules if enforced would effectively end organic farming by small farmers, it would drive out of business most small ranchers or anyone who could not keep the requisite records, store the requisite samples or keep up with all the minutia of thousands of pages of government regulation that will have to be written for this law.

Why is Obama fast tracking this law with all the rest of the stuff he is pushing through? One of the reasons is that if small farmers and ranchers are driven out of business, it would allow large agricultural companies that have the legal teams, crop scientists and other resources to comply with the law a huge competitive advantage. It would reduce the competition from small vegetable growers to the large agricultural business. The law would drive demographic or population changes favorable to democrats. It would cause small farmers and ranchers who vote Republican to be forced off the land and into cities. Therefore, the law greatly benefits the large agricultural companies who were major benefactors to President Obama and Democrats in the last election and it benefits the Democratic party in general.
 
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Anonymous

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norticks- did you oppose all this when Reagan started selling out our sovereignty with the Free Trade Agreements that- was then carryied on by Bush I and put threw by Clinton with the NAFTA. AFTA's, etc.- and fasttracked by GW- who never met a Free Trade Agreement he never liked..... :???:
Did you oppose this when GW- following in the pattern laid out for him by the multinational corporations and WTO/OIE tryed to mandate this for cattle while backroom supporting/promoting the NCBA to get the monoply on the Mandatory ID system to profiteer.... :???:
Did you oppose the inspection/oversight scuttling of the USDA/FDA as done by GW that promoted the multinationals and industry to do their own oversight/inspection/policing- that has failed miserably- resulting in a major amount of recalls, illness, and deaths-- with no way to even tell if the product was imported (which it normally was) or domestic because they refused to allow US producers to be able to label it and identify it from the generic... :???: That has caused a major outcry by producers and consumers both- along with some of the smaller meat packers/food producers......

This is not surprising with the deaf ear thats been turned to the US consumer/public for the past 8 years.....The American public is slow to anger- but because of many years refusal to listen to them-and putting the interests of these Big Corporates and Multinationals ahead of them and their safety/health and ability to make informed choices are now- and like I've always said Government seldom PROACTS- they almost always REACT- and usually when doing so OVERREACT....
 

hypocritexposer

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HR 875, was introduced by Rosa DeLauro whose husband Stanley Greenburg works for Monsanto.

The bill is monstrous on level after level - the power it would give to Monsanto, the criminalization of seed banking, the prison terms and confiscatory fines for farmers, the 24 hours GPS tracking of their animals, the easements on their property to allow for warrantless government entry, the stripping away of their property rights, the imposition by the filthy, greedy industrial side of anti-farming international “industrial” standards to independent farms - the only part of our food system that still works, the planned elimination of farmers through all these means.

The corporations want the land, they want more intensive industrialization, they want the end of normal animals so they can substitute patented genetically engineered ones they own, they want the end of normal seeds and thus of seed banking by farmers or individuals. They want control over all seeds, animals, water, and land.

Our farmers are good stewards. That is who is threatened by Rosa DeLauro’s bill (and because of that, we all are). At a time in this country when wise stewardship and the production of anything real - especially good food - is what is most needed, it is our best stewards whom Rosa DeLauro threatens, under the cruelly false name of “food safety.”

And now Monsanto wants its own employee, Michael Taylor - the man who forced genetically engineered rBGH on us (unlabeled so us, unaware) when the Clintons placed him over “food safety” in the 90s - back in government, this time to act with massive police power as a “food safety tsar” from inside the White House. HR 875 would give him immense power over what is done on every single farm in the country and massive police state power to wield over farmers and punishments to break them at will.

The following quotes show Monsanto and its biotech ilk are not “stewards” at all. Their inhuman focus on profit has led to inhuman, insane, sickening products that require intense corruption of democracy and science institutes and media, to foist them on country after country which don’t want them.

It is our farmers who stand between us and this outrage which masquerades as science, as food, as normal business, as government. And it is or farmers who need not only protecting and but actual freeing from government intrusion, control and harm.

Vegetarians and vegans do not identify with farmers who raise animals but what is at stake here is critical for all of us. ”First they came for the Jews” is an apt reminder of what matters in standing with each other because the overwhelming bureaucratic burdens, the recording over every single thing done on a farm, the warrantless inspections, the end of farmers markets, the criminalization of seed banking, the ten years in prison for stepping out of line in any way, will next be applied not to animals breaking out of fence onto a neighbors’ farm, but for such things as not spraying pesticides on an organic farm to eradicate earthworms (now listed as an invasive species) because the government’s “food safety tsar” has deemed it necessary. It is totalitarian control (and HR 875 epitomizes it) which we stand against, and now it is aimed with ferocity at farmers with animals. Stopping it now keeps all farmers safe.

Rosa DeLauro and Stanley Greenburg have a great deal to account for in attempting through a mislabeled bill with hidden intent to wipe out our farmers and harm all of us. HR 875 gives Monsanto greater power and opens doors wider to the following …
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
norticks- did you oppose all this when Reagan started selling out our sovereignty with the Free Trade Agreements that- was then carryied on by Bush I and put threw by Clinton with the NAFTA. AFTA's, etc.- and fasttracked by GW- who never met a Free Trade Agreement he never liked..... :???:
Did you oppose this when GW- following in the pattern laid out for him by the multinational corporations and WTO/OIE tryed to mandate this for cattle while backroom supporting/promoting the NCBA to get the monoply on the Mandatory ID system to profiteer.... :???:
Did you oppose the inspection/oversight scuttling of the USDA/FDA as done by GW that promoted the multinationals and industry to do their own oversight/inspection/policing- that has failed miserably- resulting in a major amount of recalls, illness, and deaths-- with no way to even tell if the product was imported (which it normally was) or domestic because they refused to allow US producers to be able to label it and identify it from the generic... :???: That has caused a major outcry by producers and consumers both- along with some of the smaller meat packers/food producers......

This is not surprising with the deaf ear thats been turned to the US consumer/public for the past 8 years.....The American public is slow to anger- but because of many years refusal to listen to them-and putting the interests of these Big Corporates and Multinationals ahead of them and their safety/health and ability to make informed choices are now- and like I've always said Government seldom PROACTS- they almost always REACT- and usually when doing so OVERREACT....

The rant you just wqent through did not address the qestion that was asked of you!

But the fact you won't answer does not surprise anyone as you will not respond to a direct question just go off on a tangent about something else!
 

Mike

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
norticks- did you oppose all this when Reagan started selling out our sovereignty with the Free Trade Agreements that- was then carryied on by Bush I and put threw by Clinton with the NAFTA. AFTA's, etc.- and fasttracked by GW- who never met a Free Trade Agreement he never liked..... :???:
Did you oppose this when GW- following in the pattern laid out for him by the multinational corporations and WTO/OIE tryed to mandate this for cattle while backroom supporting/promoting the NCBA to get the monoply on the Mandatory ID system to profiteer.... :???:
Did you oppose the inspection/oversight scuttling of the USDA/FDA as done by GW that promoted the multinationals and industry to do their own oversight/inspection/policing- that has failed miserably- resulting in a major amount of recalls, illness, and deaths-- with no way to even tell if the product was imported (which it normally was) or domestic because they refused to allow US producers to be able to label it and identify it from the generic... :???: That has caused a major outcry by producers and consumers both- along with some of the smaller meat packers/food producers......

This is not surprising with the deaf ear thats been turned to the US consumer/public for the past 8 years.....The American public is slow to anger- but because of many years refusal to listen to them-and putting the interests of these Big Corporates and Multinationals ahead of them and their safety/health and ability to make informed choices are now- and like I've always said Government seldom PROACTS- they almost always REACT- and usually when doing so OVERREACT....

BWAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

When I scrolled down and saw this post, I spit coffee across my desk, pizzed my pants, started a coughing spell, threw my cap across the room, and laughed so hard my toes curled up.

You're really gonna freak out when you find out that Vilsack has been in bed with Monsanto for years........... :lol: :lol: :lol:

WE TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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