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Tam

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Yesterday Bob Beckel pulled out his white board and started bi*ching about the amount of money Trump has spent flying to Florida.

He was claiming it cost 10 million dollars to fly Trump down to Florida three times. So let's look at it. that is 3.3 million dollars per trip and this is with Trump staying at Maralogo and golfing with the leader of Japan on his own Golf course. And don't forget when he is there he is interviewing people for his cabinet, and Admin. The man has not stopped working since election night.

Now compare that to what they say Obama's Chistmas trips to Hawaii cost. They claimed it cost 3.5 million to take their Hawaiian holidays which would have included the rent on a large resort style home as Obama's do not own a home there AND golf course fees as Obama LOVES HIS GOLF but does not own a course in Hawaii or anywhere else. When he was there he played golf and swam but I don't remember other than the Japanese leader he met with at Pearl Harbour has he ever had a meeting or did a job interview while he was living it up in Hawaii. He said during his own 2008 campaign he wasn't going to Alaska or Hawaii to campaign as it was to expensive to go to those States, but yet on the tax payer dime he claimed Hawaii to be his home state and he was going home for the holidays. HE has a mansion in Chicago Ill. not Hawaii but did he ever take the kids there for a holiday NOPE. Oh and let's not forget more than once the Obama's flew separately to Hawaii and the Pres. would flight back while Michelle would stay longer forcing to send a jet back after her and the girls.

Now let's compare the Trump Maralogo trip to Obama's Martha's Vineyards get aways. same coast. Trump's are claimed to be $3.3 million flights compared to Obama's $465,000 that includes again renting a home as he again has no home in Martha's Vineyard and golf fees And remember the time the Obama dog had it's own flight up to the family vacation at Martha's Vineyard.

Now Looking at these numbers does anyone believe it has cost the US tax payers $10 million dollars to fly President Trump to Florida three time and PLEASE remember Trump was working 75% of the time he was at Maralogo. Which is now considered the White House of the South.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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I imagine it would take all of about 30 seconds of comparing the cost associated with each President to quickly find the liberal lie.

Just like Obama deported more illegals than any other President ever.... yet Mexico is all bent out of shape at the moment because they're citizens are getting sent back in fewer numbers by Trump? Doesn't hold water and you see that under Obama, they fudged it just a little by counting those turned away at the border.

Or just like Obama's recovery and job market participation..... if you stop counting people that just aren't even looking for work anymore.

Or jobs added... when you decrease full time jobs and add numerous part time jobs because employers can no longer afford to employ people full time and pay for Obamacare.

There should be a law passed that liberals can be throat punched every time they use fake numbers derived from fake accounting. Maybe then, they would actually research the facts and use factual information.
 

Steve

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I think the trip to Florida is wasteful.. with that said..

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These are worthwhile questions to ask: How much does it really cost to operate Air Force One? And is it true that taxpayers have to foot the entire bill, even when the president isn’t traveling on official business?

In response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by Judicial Watch, the Air Force reported that the FY 2016 cost per flight hour for the AF1 is $180,118. The main issue with this dollar figure is that it’s not very informative since we don’t know how much Air Force One costs when the President isn’t using it. That is, cost per flight hour (CPFH) is typically determined by dividing fixed costs (or operating and support costs) by the number of hours flown — so an airplane that is very expensive to maintain but is flown relatively little (as Air Force One is) will have a high CPFH, but most of those costs will be incurred whether the aircraft is used or not.

so it was false? NOPE! (snopes is often wrong, because they cherry pick data.)

The president spent over $7.3 million on just three trips in 2013, including $2.1 million to appear on “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” in August, according to new flight documents provided by the Air Force to a public watchdog group.

Judicial Watch told Secrets that the sky-high jet travel costs for the first family's 2012-2013 Christmas vacation in Hawaii, their beach vacation on Martha's Vineyard last summer and President Obama's brief trip to California in August totalled $7,396,531.20.

The Air Force said it costs $228,288 an hour to fly Air Force One, a massive $48,535 jump from the last estimate of $179,750, or 27 percent.

Either way it is a luxury only the super rich and powerful can afford.
 

Tam

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The Liberals had no problem with the Obama's using Air Force 1 to have DATE NIGHT in New York as the Obama's deserved to get away from the stress of the job. But they are already bitching 1 month into Trump's Admin. about him taking Air Force 1 to Florida and conducting BUSINESS MEETINGS. He took Three trip down there, one he was with the Japanese Leader who wanted to play on the same golf course his father played on with a US President, a golf course that Trump owns. Another was for a Campaign rally so likely his campaign (IE Trump, as he largely funded his own campaign) paid for the trip and while there he announced a new National Sec. Advisor after many last minute interviews with potential candidates. The Third I think was a Red Cross gala fund raiser he and FLOTUS attended.

Now if he jumps on AF1 to fly to say California to sign an EO that could be signed in the Oval Office like Obama did on numerous occasions then we might have a problem. But I doubt we will see that as Trump is all about the bottom line and cutting the budget unlike Obama where I doubt he even knew or cared what it cost to fly AF1 to California to be on Jimmy Kimmel. Trump knows the costs as he has had his own Air Liner for years and paid the actual bills for said Air Liner unlike most Presidents.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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All i want to know is, what are they paying the mother in law, the dog groomer, the csarz? Oh, also the kids and all the personal attendies when his wife and kids are traveling to Africa for good will?
 

Tam

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Every time Bob goes off the rails and says something that shocks the rest of THE FIVE panel he excuses his actions or talk with he's done every illegal drug, a lot of legal drugs and drank like a fish. Now I ask why the he() does any TV network trust him enough to put him on the air. He was so bad the other day I got on twitter and commented to him about being unhinged and he should be ashamed of himself. I guess I was not the only one as the next day the first think he said was talking about how many tweets he got about his behaviour. Then he went off again and used The Five to call out a guy that tweeted something about Bob's daughter. Eric was shocked he called Bob out for it on air.

One think I do find funny about him though is his predictions about how Trump's Admin. is going to do, especially since he was so wrong about Trump winning the election. After the Billy Bush tape came out Bob said Trump's campaign was OOVERR donations would dry up and Trump was DONE I think on election night he was still giving Trump only a 1% chance of winning as there was no way for Trump to get to 270. He said he spent time in bed after his surgery and that time was spent calling North Carolina and there was no way Trump was going to win that State. With all his knowledge of campaigning in 5 presidential campaigns he could guarantee there was no way Trump was going to win. Now he is sitting on The FIVE saying he is going to dog Trump and criticize his every move. The man is a sick nasty rude joke and FOX was nuts to bring him back. He can not be trusted not to drop the F Bomb when he gets upset by something one of the other says.
 

mrj

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Traveler said:
I wonder Bob Beckel and Ed Schultz are related? Can't stand either of them.

Two like that in one family would surely be some sort of punishment from above!

I have heard Beckel speak in person a few years ago and he did a fine job, and was quite inspirational.....tho it was hard for me to separate what he was saying there from what he had said on his previous TV appearances.

BUT, compared with Schultz, Beckel nearly qualifies for a small halo, imo!

mrj
 

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