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it takes one to know one?

do you avoid PB because of the constant mudslinging by a few?

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  • sorry, I was to busy slinging mud, could you repeat the question?

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Steve

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hopalong said:
I think this whole thing has gone beyond any kind of repair!
some of us has had had our feelings hurt and the retorts have been rather nasty, (this coming from me) I think it needs to be put to bed!

And we need to move on

I do agree that some feelings have been hurt recently.. I am sorry for some, but when people avoid a site because of the nastiness... and some hide their names out of fear... it has to be dealt with...

it isn't Freedom of speech when there is a fear of retaliation or condemnation..
 

hopalong

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Steve while i agree with you to a point, seems to me that it has tirened into a pi$$ing contest between a couple of you and that nothing is being accomplished\

I refer you to the last pm you sent me!
 

Steve

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hopalong said:
Steve while i agree with you to a point, seems to me that it has tirened into a pi$$ing contest between a couple of you and that nothing is being accomplished\

I refer you to the last pm you sent me!

sorry,.. they didn't get the humor :?

so I tired blunt.. think that will work?
 
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Steve said:
Pig Farmer said:
Faster horses said:
This is getting ridiculous.
I'm tired of Steve taking all the heat.
I was one of those who sent him a PM. And Steve isn't a liar. He
brings alot to this forum. I hope he doesn't leave.

Please, can we grow up now?
This forum is Political Bull, not Personal Bull.

fh you opened the door so I will step in. You pmd me the other day and I did not say what you liked so you took your ball and went elsewhere looking for the answer I would not give you.

Yes many times you have pmd me and Instigated me and aplauding me going after ones like kola or ot. Its only out of bounds when its a bad day for you fh. I have told you from the get go I dont mince words and I dont let people sway my convicctions. I dont care if one is one from the left or right I wont backdown or look the other way.

AG Go ahead and pm steve with your info it will be everywhere before you turn around twice. Just look at how many times he has changed his stories or lies to me if you want to call it what it is.

convictions.. and you can't even stick with a name let alone convictions..

gee look who is spilling the beans now that he is a little upset...

I at least had the courtesy not to name names... :roll: you sure are a piece of work aren't you.. ?

BTW .. care to point out the lie jerk. ?


Couple of things here steve fh admitted she pmd you. Now when someone wants to run gossiping in pms I dont mince words its open season. I told it like I see it if I had yes mamd her she would have been a happy camper but since I said whaty she would not accept she came to you looking for a shoulder to whine on.

Me upset you are as full of crap as a thanksgiving turkey. There is nothing you have posted that has upset me. You are the one so upset you have lied 2 of the 3 times you have mentioned how many emails or pms you have received.

I wish I could say I hate it that I pissed in your cherrios for calling you out about pussy footing around in politics and religion. But I stand by what I posted. You are like ot you think you are the go to man of the right when in fact neither you or ot are go to men you are just a poster like everyone else no more or less important except in your eyes. :)
 
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nonothing said:
where the heck is hypo ,he brought pig boy to this site..but i am sure that will be denied...

Take your meds nono Hypo had nothing to do with anything. you sound like the broken record r2 played on White Wing :cry:
 

Steve

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You are the one so upset you have lied 2 of the 3 times you have mentioned how many emails or pms you have received.

I guess I'll have to beat this dead horse one last time...

I did not lie. I certainly received more then 2 dozen pms and e-mails over the last few days... concerning the nastiness of PB.. (dozens)

so now it is down to who has more credibility.

you certainly can't prove I am wrong.. or lied.. so I guess in our fair country that leaves you making a false accusation based on your opinion..

which makes you a false witness... wonder how GOD treats them?
 

Steve

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nonothing said:
where the heck is hypo ,he brought pig boy to this site..but i am sure that will be denied...

some people just show up.. and know everything that has happened here for years...
 
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Steve said:
You are the one so upset you have lied 2 of the 3 times you have mentioned how many emails or pms you have received.

I guess I'll have to beat this dead horse one last time...

I did not lie. I certainly received more then 2 dozen pms and e-mails over the last few days... concerning the nastiness of PB.. (dozens)

so now it is down to who has more credibility.

you certainly can't prove I am wrong.. or lied.. so I guess in our fair country that leaves you making a false accusation based on your opinion..

which makes you a false witness... wonder how GOD treats them?



Steve at the time you started thiswill you say you had dozens of pms and emails? Remember GOD IS WATCHING AND READING. :wink:

This question will end up like ot and how many user names he posts under. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Steve

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I wish I could say I hate it that I p****d in your cherrios for calling you out about p***y footing around in politics and religion.

it had little to do with your comment it had to do with your thick head..

you couldn't see nor understand that you were being rude and judgmental.. so I tried humor, and sticking to the point.. it didn't work.. so I tried blunt... that didn't seem to work either.. so I tried to be blunter.. which made me look just as rude and judgmental as you.. even as I was laughing my ass off on how stupid this thread looked. by then.. re-enforcing the original point of the thread..

ironically you never got that point... I think everyone else did.. judging by the pms and comments..

From page one.. cause you seemed to have really missed it...
remember the child hood retort.. "it takes one to know one"?

I have found that many sayings have roots in the Bible.. some not so good, but some have a truth that defies man's logic...

I try to just put forward a passage so the person can read and hopefully understand my beliefs on an issue instead of quoting the bible, partly because taking a passage out of context can lead some to manipulate the word to fit their agenda, partly because there are different interpretations to the word, and partly to draw a person back to the bible.. but below is a passage that might help a few to a better understanding of the old childhood retort..


Quote:
“Therefore you are without excuse, every man of you who passes judgment, for in that you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things.” (Romans 2:1-2).


but if you think you know more then the written word..

thank all of those who I tested their patience.. I tried..
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Angusgord said:
Steve said:
Angusgord said:
Isn't pming like backstabbing gossip? Why not just say what needs to be said in a post ,out in the open and upfront

well some have found that can cause harassment.. and vile comments to be made towards themselves, their family and even cattle operation.

since the site goes back a few years, many on here know each other.. and do not want recriminations from someone sifting through pages of old posts to take a comment out of context and use it against themselves.. or to have their family trashed for no good reason..

and I doubt I have much to worry about in a battle of wits and character.
So I was right then!!Backstabbing gossip!I'm not feeling warm fuzzie's toward Pigfarmer but what's being said behind his back and mine ,no doute , should be said to our face's How can one stand their point if gossiped behind ones back ,maybe we have valid point's to whats being said OR why don't you just close the room's and gossip pm back and fort

Since I never PMed anyone about anyone I can freely say that Ranchers and PB would be a better place if both Pigfarmer and Angusgord would just pack their bags and leave. You haven't added a iota of positive debate to this forum. :cowboy:
 

Steve

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Pig Farmer said:
Steve said:
You are the one so upset you have lied 2 of the 3 times you have mentioned how many emails or pms you have received.

I guess I'll have to beat this dead horse one last time...

I did not lie. I certainly received more then 2 dozen pms and e-mails over the last few days... concerning the nastiness of PB.. (dozens)

so now it is down to who has more credibility.

you certainly can't prove I am wrong.. or lied.. so I guess in our fair country that leaves you making a false accusation based on your opinion..

which makes you a false witness... wonder how GOD treats them?



Steve at the time you started thiswill you say you had dozens of pms and emails? Remember GOD IS WATCHING AND READING. :wink:

This question will end up like ot and how many user names he posts under. :lol: :lol: :lol:

it is late here on the east coast.. I will sleep well tonight.. with a clean clear conscience.. and it was certainly dozens.. good night.
 
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Big Muddy rancher said:
Angusgord said:
Steve said:
well some have found that can cause harassment.. and vile comments to be made towards themselves, their family and even cattle operation.

since the site goes back a few years, many on here know each other.. and do not want recriminations from someone sifting through pages of old posts to take a comment out of context and use it against themselves.. or to have their family trashed for no good reason..

and I doubt I have much to worry about in a battle of wits and character.
So I was right then!!Backstabbing gossip!I'm not feeling warm fuzzie's toward Pigfarmer but what's being said behind his back and mine ,no doute , should be said to our face's How can one stand their point if gossiped behind ones back ,maybe we have valid point's to whats being said OR why don't you just close the room's and gossip pm back and fort

Since I never PMed anyone about anyone I can freely say that Ranchers and PB would be a better place if both Pigfarmer and Angusgord would just pack their bags and leave. You haven't added a iota of positive debate to this forum. :cowboy:

SHORT SIGHTED AND MEMORY THERE BMR

Where would the board be without Cowhunter? :wink:



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There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.




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so what you are saying is, is that you won't be stickin' around?? you sure did alot of b*tchin' in the last 2/3s of your post, if what you are saying is true about this site, seems you would fit right in around here but, it seems your mind is made up....don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.



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I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.



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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: clans

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cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.



good luck......................you remind me of cow mangler



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Pig Farmer wrote:
I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.


i believe that welcomes were offered when cowhunter posted in ranch talk. then out of now where this is posted i didn't read the the post in ranch talk until after this one. so there will probably be no welcome from me, and that is no loss, i know.
i've said this before, i don't wish cancer on my worst enemy..but at the same time it doesn't give the person a free roll.



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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: clans

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HAY MAKER wrote:
cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.



good luck......................you remind me of cow mangler


What does it matter who they are hm? Did someone die and leave you in charge of who has a right to post or what they have to say must be cleared by you? Or for that matter anyone else.

The poster sure was right about a click or clan. They really should not loose any sleep as to what you think about their posts.



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Im glad to see ole cow mangler back.........wish he would stay ,but he already said he was gonna cut and run
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Justin wrote:
Pig Farmer wrote:
I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.


i believe that welcomes were offered when cowhunter posted in ranch talk. then out of now where this is posted i didn't read the the post in ranch talk until after this one. so there will probably be no welcome from me, and that is no loss, i know.
i've said this before, i don't wish cancer on my worst enemy..but at the same time it doesn't give the person a free roll.


If you would not wish it on your worst enemy then you have no idea no idea what one with it is going through.

I mean lets be real here Justin many folks on here who don't have anything wrong with them other than the Corn Cobb thats crammed up their rears side ways are arrogant foul mouthed and just down right mouthy on any given day.



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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject:

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Pig Farmer wrote:
Justin wrote:
Pig Farmer wrote:
I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.


i believe that welcomes were offered when cowhunter posted in ranch talk. then out of now where this is posted i didn't read the the post in ranch talk until after this one. so there will probably be no welcome from me, and that is no loss, i know.
i've said this before, i don't wish cancer on my worst enemy..but at the same time it doesn't give the person a free roll.


If you would not wish it on your worst enemy then you have no idea no idea what one with it is going through.

I mean lets be real here Justin many folks on here who don't have anything wrong with them other than the Corn Cobb thats crammed up their rears side ways are arrogant foul mouthed and just down right mouthy on any given day.


well it is what it is....

i'm wondering what happened between cowhunters 1st and 3rd post that blew the lid off doesn't much matter though i guess.



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I wasn't aware I attacked anybody-I honestly thought it would be a post about the clans in Scotland was the only reason I clicked on it. I belong by the way to the 'Fighting Gunns' imagine that. I don't why I ever post in the gong show forum-my mistake. Have at it kids!!!




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Northern Rancher wrote:
I wasn't aware I attacked anybody-I honestly thought it would be a post about the clans in Scotland was the only reason I clicked on it. I belong by the way to the 'Fighting Gunns' imagine that. I don't why I ever post in the gong show forum-my mistake. Have at it kids!!!


who are you trying to fool NR, you are the biggest kid of them all



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It was all a misunderstanding guys Lets take over to ranch talk and find out something about these Florida Crackers. and Cur dogs.



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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:15 am Post subject: Re: clans

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cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.


Go grab another bottle of whatever you are drinking - then come back and tell us how you really feel.



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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: clans

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cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.


Cowhunter, don't take your situation out on others. They have there battles to fight just like everybody else. Different battles maybe, but battles just the same. If you have a medical issue, I'm sorry, but, it's not the fault of any of these people. This site is just where people can vent their daily ranch life or offer solutions or whatever. So, how about joining in?
 

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Pig Farmer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Angusgord said:
So I was right then!!Backstabbing gossip!I'm not feeling warm fuzzie's toward Pigfarmer but what's being said behind his back and mine ,no doute , should be said to our face's How can one stand their point if gossiped behind ones back ,maybe we have valid point's to whats being said OR why don't you just close the room's and gossip pm back and fort

Since I never PMed anyone about anyone I can freely say that Ranchers and PB would be a better place if both Pigfarmer and Angusgord would just pack their bags and leave. You haven't added a iota of positive debate to this forum. :cowboy:

SHORT SIGHTED AND MEMORY THERE BMR

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There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.




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so what you are saying is, is that you won't be stickin' around?? you sure did alot of b*tchin' in the last 2/3s of your post, if what you are saying is true about this site, seems you would fit right in around here but, it seems your mind is made up....don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.



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I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.



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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: clans

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cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.



good luck......................you remind me of cow mangler



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Pig Farmer wrote:
I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.


i believe that welcomes were offered when cowhunter posted in ranch talk. then out of now where this is posted i didn't read the the post in ranch talk until after this one. so there will probably be no welcome from me, and that is no loss, i know.
i've said this before, i don't wish cancer on my worst enemy..but at the same time it doesn't give the person a free roll.



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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: clans

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HAY MAKER wrote:
cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.



good luck......................you remind me of cow mangler


What does it matter who they are hm? Did someone die and leave you in charge of who has a right to post or what they have to say must be cleared by you? Or for that matter anyone else.

The poster sure was right about a click or clan. They really should not loose any sleep as to what you think about their posts.



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Im glad to see ole cow mangler back.........wish he would stay ,but he already said he was gonna cut and run
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Justin wrote:
Pig Farmer wrote:
I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.


i believe that welcomes were offered when cowhunter posted in ranch talk. then out of now where this is posted i didn't read the the post in ranch talk until after this one. so there will probably be no welcome from me, and that is no loss, i know.
i've said this before, i don't wish cancer on my worst enemy..but at the same time it doesn't give the person a free roll.


If you would not wish it on your worst enemy then you have no idea no idea what one with it is going through.

I mean lets be real here Justin many folks on here who don't have anything wrong with them other than the Corn Cobb thats crammed up their rears side ways are arrogant foul mouthed and just down right mouthy on any given day.



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Pig Farmer wrote:
Justin wrote:
Pig Farmer wrote:
I think it would be wise for one and all to read the post. Put yourself in the mans/womans shoes and then lay back.

It seems the post was moved from where it was originally posted.

NR you should know best this individual is dealing with cancer which by no means is a cake walk. You at times have been arrogant/tempermental in your own way with posters so why not everyone back off. Instead of attacking Cowhunter offer him/her a welcome and prayers would be what should be in order.

Don't criticize the poster till you walk in their shoes and I KNOW BASED ON 5 YEARS OF CANCER WITH MY Father/inlaw just what Nr and this individual face.

If you cant see it or post beyond the struggle the man/woman is having then clam up.

Attack me if you are looking for someone to yap at.


i believe that welcomes were offered when cowhunter posted in ranch talk. then out of now where this is posted i didn't read the the post in ranch talk until after this one. so there will probably be no welcome from me, and that is no loss, i know.
i've said this before, i don't wish cancer on my worst enemy..but at the same time it doesn't give the person a free roll.


If you would not wish it on your worst enemy then you have no idea no idea what one with it is going through.

I mean lets be real here Justin many folks on here who don't have anything wrong with them other than the Corn Cobb thats crammed up their rears side ways are arrogant foul mouthed and just down right mouthy on any given day.


well it is what it is....

i'm wondering what happened between cowhunters 1st and 3rd post that blew the lid off doesn't much matter though i guess.



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I wasn't aware I attacked anybody-I honestly thought it would be a post about the clans in Scotland was the only reason I clicked on it. I belong by the way to the 'Fighting Gunns' imagine that. I don't why I ever post in the gong show forum-my mistake. Have at it kids!!!




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Northern Rancher wrote:
I wasn't aware I attacked anybody-I honestly thought it would be a post about the clans in Scotland was the only reason I clicked on it. I belong by the way to the 'Fighting Gunns' imagine that. I don't why I ever post in the gong show forum-my mistake. Have at it kids!!!


who are you trying to fool NR, you are the biggest kid of them all



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It was all a misunderstanding guys Lets take over to ranch talk and find out something about these Florida Crackers. and Cur dogs.



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cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.


Go grab another bottle of whatever you are drinking - then come back and tell us how you really feel.



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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: clans

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cowhunter wrote:
There a man that lives down the road from me. He's from montana. I could listen to him all day about how ranchin was and is out there. How they raised horses and they ran loose with each stud havein his own mares. How they would only go to the high pastures in the winter because snow was there only way of gettin water. Or a friend I met at md anderson cancer center in houston texas. He has know idea there was a cow in florida and was interested in findin out just how big and how long the cattle industry had been thrivein here. Like the bigest cow/calf operation in the world, the deseret ranch, was in fla. I thought that how they burnt off the thorns on catus with big blow torches,was only somethin a cowboy could figer out. And the cattle thrived on the catcus in a pinch. I'm interest and feal for all yall havein to deal with the bad weather up north. But readin all the post. And seein how damn smart most of yall seem to be. Yall act like a bunch of coon asses at a chicken fight. Clanish as hell. Bitchin about everything from the snow, mud, cattle prices, moderaters,and anything yall can drag up to argue about. I've never been around rancher's or cowboys that were such a bunch of clanin, bitchin, assholes. Most of u chicken s*** bastards won't even put up your email or town or state your from. Yall quote what somebody says and try to make them look bad. Look at your selfs. Are yall a bunch of damn 6th graders? If your that misrable, sell your damn cows and move to town and mow a lawn. Yall sure know how to welcome somebody new.none of yall even postin or sayin hello.I'm a 4 year cancer surviver and might have a chance at a stemcell transplant I got plenty to bitch about but I still live to drag up on a horse and watch a good bunch of curdogs ring and drive cattle or anything to do with a cow. I won't get back on this board. Yall bunch of bitchin, half yankee s.o.b's can kiss my fla cracker ass. And oh yea, I have all ideay's most of yall wouldn't make a pimple on a cowboys ass.


Cowhunter, don't take your situation out on others. They have there battles to fight just like everybody else. Different battles maybe, but battles just the same. If you have a medical issue, I'm sorry, but, it's not the fault of any of these people. This site is just where people can vent their daily ranch life or offer solutions or whatever. So, how about joining in?

WHOO :roll:
 

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Been away for a few days, did I miss anything?

Any good debates break out? :D

Maybe I need to post some good articles that might get some discussions started. Oh, wait, that's what I usually try to do.
 

nonothing

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hypocritexposer said:
Been away for a few days, did I miss anything?

Any good debates break out? :D

Maybe I need to post some good articles that might get some discussions started. Oh, wait, that's what I usually try to do.

I guess your buddy pig boy needed your help huh..funny how you just happened to show up in this thread....lol....
 

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nonothing said:
hypocritexposer said:
Been away for a few days, did I miss anything?

Any good debates break out? :D

Maybe I need to post some good articles that might get some discussions started. Oh, wait, that's what I usually try to do.

I guess your buddy pig boy needed your help huh..funny how you just happened to show up in this thread....lol....

As you have said many times before, I don't get into the name calling etc. I also don't very often point out the name calling, it's not worth the time.

Do you have any issues you would like to debate, Nonothing?

I showed up in many threads tonight, cause I just got back from being away for a bit. Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

I suppose you'll now call me names for posting more than once a day and expressing my opinion. Cause that's what you truly hate about me, isn't it? That I post lots, or is it all the name calling, I do?

If it's the number of posts, I wouldn't be surprised, it's been mentioned before, as a reason to hate me, or to make false accusations.
 

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Dear Pig Farmer......PLEASE take a day away from PB. I know you feel like your the only one fighting and everyone is caving in to the liberal side.
Trust me its not as Black and white as it may look right now.
Think about what really matters.....family.
Go do something with your loved ones. If by chance they are far away go do something that makes you feel like YOU.
Come back and remember this is NOT the last line in the sand, you are not the lone fighter who is to show where the rest of the posters are wrong.Once you make your point let it go ........Repeat after me ..."Let it Go"

Have a wonderful day and remember to Breath ;)
 

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Angusgord said:
Steve said:
well some have found that can cause harassment.. and vile comments to be made towards themselves, their family and even cattle operation.

since the site goes back a few years, many on here know each other.. and do not want recriminations from someone sifting through pages of old posts to take a comment out of context and use it against themselves.. or to have their family trashed for no good reason..

and I doubt I have much to worry about in a battle of wits and character.
So I was right then!!Backstabbing gossip!I'm not feeling warm fuzzie's toward Pigfarmer but what's being said behind his back and mine ,no doute , should be said to our face's How can one stand their point if gossiped behind ones back ,maybe we have valid point's to whats being said OR why don't you just close the room's and gossip pm back and fort

Since I never PMed anyone about anyone I can freely say that Ranchers and PB would be a better place if both Pigfarmer and Angusgord would just pack their bags and leave. You haven't added a iota of positive debate to this forum. :cowboy:

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