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It's a pure pity......

kolanuraven

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....that this much attention and awareness being lauded to this ' flu'
outbreak, is not paid and has not been paid to:

Cancers, esp breast & prostate
AIDS
Alzheimer's
 

kolanuraven

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Big Muddy rancher said:
kolanuraven said:
....that this much attention and awareness being lauded to this ' flu'
outbreak, is not paid and has not been paid to:

Cancers, esp breast & prostate
AIDS
Alzheimer's

And
Mad Cow



Yeah, just think of the money being pitched at this......thermal imaging cameras to scan people....I mean it's crazy.


Maybe it's just me, as I have never, ever had the flu, but this seems as a HUGE over-reaction
 

Mike

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kolanuraven said:
....that this much attention and awareness being lauded to this ' flu'
outbreak, is not paid and has not been paid to:

Cancers, esp breast & prostate
AIDS
Alzheimer's

Can you show us where Cancer, Aids, & Alzheimers are being ignored one iota? The research for those is ongoing.... I'm sure.

"Attention" for the flu bug is immediate, and should be. The headlines will disappear shortly unless many people start dying........

Right now it's covering up the new budget bill and hate crimes legislation in Congress. Zer0 wouldn't have it any other way..........
 

kolanuraven

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Mike said:
kolanuraven said:
....that this much attention and awareness being lauded to this ' flu'
outbreak, is not paid and has not been paid to:

Cancers, esp breast & prostate
AIDS
Alzheimer's

Can you show us where Cancer, Aids, & Alzheimers are being ignored one iota? The research for those is ongoing.... I'm sure.

"Attention" for the flu bug is immediate, and should be. The headlines will disappear shortly unless many people start dying........

Right now it's covering up the new budget bill and hate crimes legislation in Congress. Zer0 wouldn't have it any other way..........


I never said the were being ' ignored'.

You're just wanting to start a pizzin' match and I'm not taking the bait, ol' boy!
 

aplusmnt

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Flu scares are a lot like Global Warming, just big hoaxes. Sars, Bird, Swine, Avian....shortage of vacines......yada yada yada..

Even the deaths each year associated with flu are blew out of porportion. The CDC lump influenza and pneumonia deaths together. The majority of these deaths each year are from pneumonia not the flu.

From the CDC website:
Statistical modeling was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death on their death certificate was listed as a respiratory or circulatory disease

They lump people into one category and then call it death by flu, when in reality most of the deaths are pneumonia and other respiratory complications.

To say 30,000 or more people die from flu each year is just a big farce and hoax, to generate fear and money!

I would never get a flu shot!!!!!! Never allow my kids to get one!!!!!!!! Everyone should research just how they are made and what unbelievable things you are putting into your body when you get one! I would worry more about getting MS or something later in life from the flu shot than I would dieing from the flu!
 

backhoeboogie

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kolanuraven said:
....that this much attention and awareness being lauded to this ' flu'
outbreak, is not paid and has not been paid to:

Cancers, esp breast & prostate
AIDS
Alzheimer's

Also check out what happened in 1918. 50 million people died from the flu. That doesn't seem like a very big deal to you?

Take a look at http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/
 

hypocritexposer

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I would never get a flu shot!!!!!! Never allow my kids to get one!!!!!!!! Everyone should research just how they are made and what unbelievable things you are putting into your body when you get one! I would worry more about getting MS or something later in life from the flu shot than I would dieing from the flu!

Good point Aplus, you don't have to go back too far to see the results of jumping on the vaccine bandwagon, and it's results.

the 1976 "pandemic" that killed 1 person, was so overblown that the government implemented a vaccine program that killed over 25? and temporarily paralyzed 500.

The dangers of quickly coming up with an unproven vaccine, may be more dangerous than the flu itself.

Here's the government ad in 1976, for those that are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASibLqwVbsk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnetwork.nationalpost.com%2Fnp%2Fblogs%2Fposted%2Farchive%2F2009%2F04%2F28%2Frun-for-the-pills-1976-swine-flu-advertisement.aspx&feature=player_embedded
 

hypocritexposer

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Try not to bring up the reality of the situation Backhoe, when I recognized it as being serious and posting about it, I was called a "kook" or was it conspiracist.
 

backhoeboogie

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hypocritexposer said:
Try not to bring up the reality of the situation Backhoe, when I recognized it as being serious and posting about it, I was called a "kook" or was it conspiracist.

Just consider the source.

(and please keep posting. I read 'em all)
 

hypocritexposer

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When it comes to media hype, I wish the MSM would report on things a little more proactively.

Here's a story that was never reported in the MSM. If it was, maybe people would have questioned the vaccine or company for it's sloppiness.

This same company will now be looked to create the next vaccine, for Swine Flu.

And nobody is informed, due to lack of media coverage.

Baxter Caught Shipping Vaccines With Live Avian Flu Virus To 18 Countries Worldwide

Czech newspapers are questioning if the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus which were distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.

http://preventdisease.com/news/09/031109_baxter.shtml



Swine flu: Baxter seeks swine flu sample to begin work on vaccine
Deerfield-based Baxter has a speedier way to make vaccines than old method

By Bruce Japsen | Tribune reporter
3:34 PM CDT, April 27, 2009

With world health officials worried about the global outbreak of another deadly virus, Deerfield-based Baxter International Inc. once again finds itself involved in the action.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-baxter-swine-flu-27-apr27,0,3579388.story
 
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Anonymous

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During yesterdays hearings the CDC folks and Drs. testifying said that altho they have no idea how bad this could get- the good thing is it readily responds to the antivirals Tamiflu and Relenza treatment (SARS and Asian Avian Flu don't) - that they already have that spread around to the states- and we are toward the end of the flu season....

But they said if history repeats itself- 1918, the 50's, and the 70's the major problem usually comes around the next flu season- and this is what they are worried about and want to prepare for....

Luckily CDC has identified the disease- and cultured it- and developed a base for a vaccine to be made from- which they have sent to the pharmaceutical plants... But developing and testing that could take 4-6 months- but right now looks like could probably be available by next flu season-- which could be the real problem time....
 

hypocritexposer

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OT this strain will mutate before now and then. The vaccine will be effective on today's strain.

They are having the same problem with the "flu" vaccine they are using at present.

It will though, create more demand for the vaccine, put pressure on the economy and the US/Mex border. Imagine the number of Mexicans being anxious to get that free health care now!

Just the scare that is in people now, will drastically change the tourism and trade economies for Mexico.
 

MoGal

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Kola, I don't think the government wants people to have such an awareness of Alzheimers because they may learn that chemtrails are the biggest cause and the flouride in drinking water and the stuff dentists put (or use to) in your tooth to fill cavities.

But this article has a pretty good spin on the swine flu:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/28/Swine-Flu.aspx

here are some highlights:

Why a True Bird- or Swine Flu Pandemic is HIGHLY Unlikely

You may not know this, but all H1N1 flu's are descendants of the 1918 pandemic strain. The reason why the flu shot may or may not work, however, from year to year, is due to mutations. Therefore, there's no vaccine available for this current hybrid flu strain, and naturally, this is feeding the fear that millions of people will die before a vaccine can be made.

However, let me remind you of one very important fact here.

Just a couple of months ago, scientists concluded that the 1918 flu pandemic that killed between 50-100 million people worldwide in a matter of 18 months -- which all these worst case scenarios are built upon -- was NOT due to the flu itself!4

Instead, they discovered the real culprit was strep infections.

People with influenza often get what is known as a "superinfection" with a bacterial agent. In 1918 it appears to have been Streptococcus pneumoniae.

Since strep is much easier to treat than the flu using modern medicine, a new pandemic would likely be much less dire than it was in the early 20th century, the researchers concluded.

Others, such as evolutionary biologist Paul Ewald,5 claim that a pandemic of this sort simply cannot happen, because in order for it to occur, the world has to change. Not the virus itself, but the world.

In a previous interview for Esquire magazine, in which he discusses the possibility of a bird flu pandemic, he states:

"They think that if a virus mutates, it's an evolutionary event. Well, the virus is mutating because that is what viruses and other pathogens do. But evolution is not just random mutation. It is random mutation coupled with natural selection; it is a battle for competitive advantage among different strains generated by random mutation.

For bird flu to evolve into a human pandemic, the strain that finds a home in humanity has to be a strain that is both highly virulent and highly transmissible. Deadliness has to translate somehow into popularity; H5N1 has to find a way to kill or immobilize its human hosts, and still find other hosts to infect. Usually that doesn't happen."


What this means is that in order for a "bird flu" or "swine flu" to turn into a human pandemic, it has to find an environment that favors both deadly virulence and ease of transmission.

People living in squalor on the Western Front at the end of World War I generated such an environment, from which the epidemic of 1918 could arise.

BINGO: we have a winner with this next statement:

Your Fear Will Make Some People VERY Rich in Today's Crumbling Economy

According to the Associated Press at least one financial analyst estimates up to $388 million worth of Tamiflu sales in the near future10 -- and that's without a pandemic outbreak.

More than half a dozen pharmaceutical companies, including Gilead Sciences Inc., Roche, GlaxoSmithKline and other companies with a stake in flu treatments and detection, have seen a rise in their shares in a matter of days, and will likely see revenue boosts if the swine flu outbreak continues to spread.

As soon as Homeland Security declared a health emergency, 25 percent -- about 12 million doses -- of Tamiflu and Relenza treatment courses were released from the nation's stockpile. However, beware that the declaration also allows unapproved tests and drugs to be administered to children. Many health- and government officials are more than willing to take that chance with your life, and the life of your child. But are you?

Remember, Tamiflu went through some rough times not too long ago, as the dangers of this drug came to light when, in 2007, the FDA finally began investigating some 1,800 adverse event reports related to the drug. Common side effects of Tamiflu include:

* Nausea
* Vomiting
* Diarrhea
* Headache
* Dizziness
* Fatigue
* Cough

All in all, the very symptoms you're trying to avoid.

More serious symptoms included convulsions, delirium or delusions, and 14 deaths in children and teens as a result of neuropsychiatric problems and brain infections (which led Japan to ban Tamiflu for children in 2007). And that's for a drug that, when used as directed, only reduces the duration of influenza symptoms by 1 to 1 ½ days, according to the official data.

But making matters worse, some patients with influenza are at HIGHER risk for secondary bacterial infections when on Tamiflu. And secondary bacterial infections, as I mentioned earlier, was likely the REAL cause of the mass fatalities during the 1918 pandemic!


Where did This Mysterious New Animal-Human Flu Strain Come From?

The H5N1 virus on its own is not very airborne. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which are more easily spread, the effect could be a potent, airborne, deadly, biological weapon. If this batch of live bird flu and seasonal flu viruses had reached the public, it could have resulted in dire consequences.

There is a name for this mixing of viruses; it's called "reassortment," and it is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created in the lab. Some scientists say the most recent global outbreak -- the 1977 Russian flu -- was started by a virus created and leaked from a laboratory.

Another example of the less sterling integrity of Big Pharma is the case of Bayer, who sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, even though they knew it was tainted with the AIDS virus.

So while it is morally unthinkable that a drug company would knowingly contaminate flu vaccines with a deadly flu virus such as the bird- or swine flu, it is certainly not impossible. It has already happened more than once.

But there seems to be no repercussions or hard feelings when industry oversteps the boundaries of morality and integrity and enters the arena of obscenity. Because, lo and behold, which company has been chosen to head up efforts, along with WHO, to produce a vaccine against the Mexican swine flu?

Baxter!11 Despite the fact that ink has barely dried on the investigative reports from their should-be-criminal "mistake" against humanity.

According to other sources,12 a top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, has concluded that the current swine flu virus possesses certain transmission "vectors" that suggest the new strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon.

The UN expert believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 swine flu virus are biological warfare agents.

In addition, Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick -- the same Army research lab from which the 2001 anthrax strain was released, according to a recent article in the Fredrick News Post.13 In February, the top biodefense lab halted all its research into Ebola, anthrax, plague, and other diseases known as "select agents," after they discovered virus samples that weren't listed in its inventory and might have been switched with something else.
 
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