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Faster horses

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Senator lan (Alan) Simpson Calls Seniors 'Greediest Generation'...

From a man in Montana ....who - like the rest of us - has just about had enough....

Hey Alan,



Lets get a few things straight:

1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole for FIFTY YEARS�

2. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 years old. I am now 63)

3. My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud

4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission is proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN

5. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from Day One, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the game. Why? Because you idiots mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal money from Medicare to pay the bills

6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you incompetent bastards spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money.




Now, you come to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay of YOUR debt To add insult to injury, you label us greedy for calling bullshit on your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullshit, I have a few questions for YOU




1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?

2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the American taxpayers?

3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?

4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and healthcare benefits are you proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or, as usual, have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?




It is you, Captain Bullshit, and your political co-conspirators who are greedy.

It is you and they who have bankrupted America and stolen the American dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers.

And for what? Votes.

Thats right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted America for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic political careers. You know it, we know it, and you know that we know it. And you can take that to the bank, you miserable son-of-a- bitch.





Sincerely,



One highly pissed off American patriot.






Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance.
May your troubles be less,
your blessings more,
and may nothing but happiness,
come through your door.


In God We Trust
 

Tam

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I totally understand the feelings of the author BUT if everyone in the US including the Senior that wrote this email take a stand and riot if the government cuts "THEIR" entitlement then the US will be in big trouble, THINK GREECE. The US can't afford the level of entitlements that are being paid out. Something has to happen and what ever it is it is going to hurt. Do I agree with hurting Seniors NO but truth be known this is a problem that started under their watch as it started years ago when they allowed to have their votes bought by the very people that implemented some of these out of control entitlements. I believe they are going to have to have some skin in the game if they don't want their grandchildren and Great Grandchildren paying for the debt racked up by the US government.

Please don't get me wrong as I feel sorry for the Seniors BUT I feel more sorry for the children that are going to be held responsible for this debt as they are not even born yet. :(
 
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Anonymous

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Geeze FH-- aren't you afraid of being drummed out of your cult for blasphameying a cult member ???? :wink: :p :lol:

Deficit commission’s Simpson calls US seniors the ‘greediest generation’

By David Edwards
Friday, November 26th, 2010 -- 10:17 am


Wyoming Republican Alan Simpson has a pretty low opinion of the people that have paid into Social Security all their lives and now need something back.

The co-chair of President Barack Obama's bipartisan deficit commission lashed out at seniors Wednesday because they are unhappy with his ideas for reducing the deficit by cutting Social Security benefits while reducing corporate taxes.

"I've never had any nastier mail or [been in a] more difficult position in my life," Simpson told Jeremy Pelzer at the Casper Star-Tribune. "Just vicious. People I've known, relatives [saying], 'You son of a bitch. How could you do this?'"

The draft report released by Simpson along with co-Chair Erskine Bowles proposed raising the retirement age to 69 by 2070. Additionally, 90 percent of Social Security income would be taxable, as opposed to 82.5 percent as is currently projected.

Critics of the proposal have dubbed the group the "catfood commission" because seniors who see their benefits cut would have to reduce their expenses or find additional sources of income.

"We had the greatest generation," Simpson said. "I think this is the greediest generation."

Referring to MSNBC's Rachel Maddow as "that," the commission co-chair blamed political polarization for the attacks on him.

"You don't want to listen to the right and the left -- the extremes," he said. "You don't want to listen to Keith Olbermann and Rush Babe [Limbaugh] and Rachel Minnow [sic] or whatever that is, and Glenn Beck. They're entertainers. They couldn't govern their way out of a paper sack -- from the right or the left. But they get paid a lot of money from you and advertisers -- thirty, fifty million a year -- to work you over and get you juiced up with emotion, fear, guilt, and racism. Emotion, fear, guilt, and racism."

One contributor to the liberal website Daily Kos believes that Simpson "doesn't apparently understand the program that it has been his life's mission to destroy."

"[H]is perspective indicates something even more vile: a belief that people's sole source of income, their very livelyhood, is some sort of mass generosity. It isn't," wrote brooklynbadboy. "Instead of working all your life and then spending your elder years destitute, why not take care of the old people now and then when you get old, you'll get yours. It's a deal, not a handout."

I don't see how you can reach consensus with someone like this. There is no middle ground between people who think Social Security is a government handout and reality. To malign people who have worked their entire lives and kept their end of the bargain, he says to them, essentially "you're beat." You cant negotiate with a guy like that. He doesn't believe in keeping his end of the deal. In fact, there is a word for people who take money and then don't hold up their end of a bargain: a thief. I say it is that person who is truly greedy.
It's not the first time Simpson's comments about Social Security have raised eyebrows. In an August email, he described the program as a "milk cow with 310 million tits!"

Simpson told Ashley Carson, executive director of the Older Women's League, that those who oppose cuts to Social Security are "Gray Panthers" and "Pink Panthers."

After his remarks, The New York Times' Paul Krugman called on the president to remove Simpson from the deficit commission.

"At this point, though, Obama is on the spot: he has to fire Simpson, or turn the whole thing into a combination of farce and tragedy — the farce being the nature of the co-chair, the tragedy being that Democrats are so afraid of Republicans that nothing, absolutely nothing, will get them sanctioned," wrote Krugman.

But White House press secretary Robert Gibbs confirmed to reporters that Simpson wouldn't lose his job. "We regret that he sent that e-mail," Gibbs said. We don't condone those comments. But Senator Simpson has and will continue to serve on the commission."

Simpson later released an email to Carson apologizing. "I can see that my remarks have caused you anguish, and that was not my intention."

Simpson's remarks to the Star-Tribune were first noticed by Talking Points Memo.
 

Frisco

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Tam said:
I totally understand the feelings of the author BUT if everyone in the US including the Senior that wrote this email take a stand and riot if the government cuts "THEIR" entitlement then the US will be in big trouble, THINK GREECE. The US can't afford the level of entitlements that are being paid out. Something has to happen and what ever it is it is going to hurt. Do I agree with hurting Seniors NO but truth be known this is a problem that started under their watch as it started years ago when they allowed to have their votes bought by the very people that implemented some of these out of control entitlements. I believe they are going to have to have some skin in the game if they don't want their grandchildren and Great Grandchildren paying for the debt racked up by the US government.

Please don't get me wrong as I feel sorry for the Seniors BUT I feel more sorry for the children that are going to be held responsible for this debt as they are not even born yet. :(

I think you are right, Tam, but I think the first step in any of the programs out there is to get a handle on fraud.
 

Steve

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Tam said:
I totally understand the feelings of the author BUT if everyone in the US including the Senior that wrote this email take a stand and riot if the government cuts "THEIR" entitlement then the US will be in big trouble, THINK GREECE. The US can't afford the level of entitlements that are being paid out. Something has to happen and what ever it is it is going to hurt. Do I agree with hurting Seniors NO but truth be known this is a problem that started under their watch as it started years ago when they allowed to have their votes bought by the very people that implemented some of these out of control entitlements. I believe they are going to have to have some skin in the game if they don't want their grandchildren and Great Grandchildren paying for the debt racked up by the US government.

Please don't get me wrong as I feel sorry for the Seniors BUT I feel more sorry for the children that are going to be held responsible for this debt as they are not even born yet. :(

It seems funny how seniors and the military are always mentioned when it comes to "entitlements" .. when there are many hands in the pot who never earned a cent of what they are getting...

before you cut senior benefits.. why not look at cutting all fed programs by 10%

then when no one screams.. cut all welfare by 10% and foodstamps by say 5%

and when no one screams.. take a swipe at education.. say 5%..

and then after everyone has felt some pain.. and every budget is cut.. I'll step aside as you take a few percent from SS.

BTW... SS check has been frozen at last years level..and will stay at that level for two years.. did any other fed program see their funding froze.

yes we need to cut.. but be fair and equatable..
 

MO_cows

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There is probably enough money to fund social security if they would aggressively go after fraud, waste and eliminate all the overlapping programs. THEN make some strategic cuts. I bet the top of the average person's head would blow off if they went thru line by line what our government is spending money on, and how much.
 

Tam

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I personally would not go to Seniors first, they would be one of the last but I fear if everyone has the same reaction as this senior did things are going to get dirty fast.

Personally I would go after Fraud first as God knows there is more in Government than any other sector of life. History has proven that if you want waste and fraud get a big government agency involved. :roll:

Next I would go after the government payroll, maybe even starting with trimming the number of assistants to the those living in the White House. Who needs that many assistances and Czars? As far as the Obama's the first person I would fire is the Official Protocol Officer as he/she is plainly not doing his/her job! WHAT AN REPEATED EMBARRASSMENT. :roll:

Then onto the dead weight in each and every Department in the all levels of Government. It is time the Government realizes creating Government jobs is not the way to put the US back to work. It is the best way to BANKRUPT the US. But to do this you would probably have to abolish the Government employees Union as we all know once you get a government job no matter how bad you are at that job you can't be fired without the unions stepping in and protecting your worthless butt. . :x Job security should be based plain and simply on your ability to do your job not your unions ability to sue your employer if they feel they have to fire you for not doing your job. Look at how many teachers still have their jobs because of UNIONS but can't be trusted to step foot in a classroom. :mad:

Next Unemployment should be cut back to a reasonable length of time as other countries have proven the longer you offer to pay a guy not to work the long that guy will take to look for a job and get off the government teat as Oldtimer would say.

When everything else is looked at then SS, Medicare and the Military might be safe but if not then they might have to be trimmed a bit to meet the needs to cut the debt the US is passing on to their grandchildren.

Sorry to say BUT Everyone has to be WILLING to put some skin in the game if the US is not going to turn into another Greece. :(
 

Faster horses

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Hey, OT--guess what?
I very well know who Alan Simpson is. I'm from Wyoming
and at one time, he was my congressman. That doesn't mean
he's always right.
 

Tam

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Faster horses said:
Hey, OT--guess what?
I very well know who Alan Simpson is. I'm from Wyoming
and at one time, he was my congressman. That doesn't mean
he's always right.

Don't worry FH you and I are in the same boat. :wink: Have you noticed when Oldtimer doesn't have a intelligent thought to add to the discussion he jumps in with both feet with a stupid comment. :roll:
 

hopalong

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Making stupid comments ss the only way oldtimer can call attention to himself anymore.
Most of his friends in HIGH places are un employed and able to join him at the watering hole so he can buy thier friendship with a toddy or two :wink: :wink:

Eh Richaed?
 

I Luv Herfrds

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No kidding about stopping the fraud.
i know a doctor (who thankfully has left our area) who was working at the nursing home would walk by this one womans room, say hello to her and charge her medicare $65 for a check up.
She reported him and her cost went up and the nursing home threatened to put her on the curb for the family to come and get her.

Not just the politicians being greedy.
 

Tam

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I Luv Herfrds said:
No kidding about stopping the fraud.
i know a doctor (who thankfully has left our area) who was working at the nursing home would walk by this one womans room, say hello to her and charge her medicare $65 for a check up.
She reported him and her cost went up and the nursing home threatened to put her on the curb for the family to come and get her.

Not just the politicians being greedy.

We had an investigation here in Sask to check on how our system was doing with fraud and it wasn't any better here. We all got statements from the government listing the health services paid for on our behalf. Once the statements came out people started looking into the billing dates and thing got a bit strange. Some reported there had to be a mistake as they were in Arizona on the date of the said appointment. Turned out some of the doctors if they had an open appointment for the day they were going through their files and if they had not seen a person in a while they were sending the government a bill as if they had. Since the patients had never recieved notice of the bill for serviced on their behalf before I guess the doctors figured nobody would figure out what they were doing. It has been awhile since the government did the investigation and I think it is about time they send out the statements again to see if the Docs are up to the same tricks or if they learned their lessons the first time. I would hope they learned but with the turn over of Doctors we have here in Sask I would wonder how many in the first sting are still practicing.
 

hypocritexposer

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Statements should be sent out at least annually. It would discourage fraud and might also show some users what they are actually costed the system.
 

jodywy

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lets cut most if not all the farm programs... my wife would be out of a job , but we find insurance some where else
 

Frisco

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Tam said:
Next I would go after the government payroll, maybe even starting with trimming the number of assistants to the those living in the White House. Who needs that many assistances and Czars? As far as the Obama's the first person I would fire is the Official Protocol Officer as he/she is plainly not doing his/her job! WHAT AN REPEATED EMBARRASSMENT. :roll:

Then onto the dead weight in each and every Department in the all levels of Government. It is time the Government realizes creating Government jobs is not the way to put the US back to work. It is the best way to BANKRUPT the US. But to do this you would probably have to abolish the Government employees Union as we all know once you get a government job no matter how bad you are at that job you can't be fired without the unions stepping in and protecting your worthless butt.
:(

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Tam, you hit the nail on the head here!! Getting rid of the dead weight would save the US so much money. This is my personal crusade: to make administration see how top heavy and inefficient the government is. It is too saturated with bad employees that are "less harmful" in the state offices or the national office that managers were too afraid to get rid of. I'm stopping here, because I am really close to getting my soapbox out and I'd just be preaching to the choir.
 

Tam

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I Luv Herfrds said:
The lady called her son and told him and he reported this doctor. Nothing was done.

I always called this doc a quack.

There are lots of quacks and as long as you have a government agency paying the bills without the patient looking at them first and OK'ing the charges, it is open season for fraud. Put healthcare back into the hands of those recieving it and out of the governments and you will have less chance of quacks milking the system. And like Hypo said let the patients know how much their sniffles are costing the system. Let an annual statement bring a spot light to what FREE healthcare is costing. :x
 

Tam

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I believe I can come up with another hugh cut the US should consider. I believe the US tax payer should not be held responsible to rebuild a country that has provoked a fight. If countries harbouring terrorists want to allow bomb tossing from within their borders. Then they should not expect others to pay for their stupidity. You provoke, you pay to rebuild your own country if people retaliate. If a terrorist hides out in your country and you do nothing to chase them out and someone has to come in and get them YOU PAY TO REBUILD. Enough is enough with the foreign aid to rebuild other countries while the US roads and bridges fall into disrepair.

If a natural disaster hits a country that is a different story, I say help as long as the money is not just turned over to a CORRUPT GOVERNMENT and nothing gets done to help the suffering citizens.
 

Frisco

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Tam said:
I believe I can come up with another hugh cut the US should consider. I believe the US tax payer should not be held responsible to rebuild a country that has provoked a fight. If countries harbouring terrorists want to allow bomb tossing from within their borders. Then they should not expect others to pay for their stupidity. You provoke, you pay to rebuild your own country if people retaliate. If a terrorist hides out in your country and you do nothing to chase them out and someone has to come in and get them YOU PAY TO REBUILD. Enough is enough with the foreign aid to rebuild other countries while the US roads and bridges fall into disrepair.

If a natural disaster hits a country that is a different story, I say help as long as the money is not just turned over to a CORRUPT GOVERNMENT and nothing gets done to help the suffering citizens.

Very good idea. Now is where we need to hold our representatives' feet to the fire and not let them get sucked into Washington's BS
 
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