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Soapweed

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kolanuraven said:
(Cousin ) John Edwards goes with Obama!!!!

I say he's going for VP or Atty General.

So that makes kind of a personal dilema for you doesn't it, Kola? Won't it now be hard to know whether to vote for your lady, Hillary, or Obama with Cousin John? :???: :wink: Guess you could always solve the dilema and vote for John McCain. :)
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
(Cousin ) John Edwards goes with Obama!!!!

I say he's going for VP or Atty General.

I don't really think it matters because he is toast and will loose by record numbers anyway he goes.

But this would really put the nail in his coffin if he goes for Edwards as VP. Like I said won't matter either way, but if he wanted to at least have a shot he needs to get a running mate that is a little more to the center. Obama is so liberal and picking someone that gives him a run for his money as who is the most liberal really is not going to help his cause.

Not sure who is out there for him to pick from but surely their is some Center Left people to pick from................

Shame that McCain is going to be busy because McCain would be the perfect Moderate Center Liberal Obama should be looking for. :lol:
 

kolanuraven

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Soapweed said:
kolanuraven said:
(Cousin ) John Edwards goes with Obama!!!!

I say he's going for VP or Atty General.

So that makes kind of a personal dilema for you doesn't it, Kola? Won't it now be hard to know whether to vote for your lady, Hillary, or Obama with Cousin John? :???: :wink: Guess you could always solve the dilema and vote for John McCain. :)


I shall respond to your ' dig' in a proper way.

Does not make it hard for me at all. As I've always said I prefer Hillary...but I have no qualm with Obama. If John sees him as the choice, I trust his judgement and so be it.

I think the US ( and the world) has become tired of 2 things....The Bush Clan and the Clinton Clan, for different reasons

I think this is the GREATER momentum behind the Obama Wave right now. The voters are tired of them, Bush & Clinton, et al, as for most of us....one or the other has been President for the majority of our lives.

As far as McCain goes. I'm sure he's a polite man but he's too much like Bush as I see it. He's just more of the same. He waggles back and forth on issues and by that fact alone, it surprises me of your devotion to him. :???: :???:

One example, he stated that he wanted troops ( of some degree) in Iraq for the next 100 yrs probably but today he'll give a speech on a " what if I was President" platform and tell how he will start withdrawing troops in his first term. :???: :???: :???: He's all for supporting the troops but against a bill to offer them free education upon their completion of 3 yrs of military service. He says we can't afford it??? We spend MILLIONS a day on the war. This makes no sense whatsoever.

Every parent you ask will tell you that they could not afford to loose their child either. That money is the factor in that bill...that alone tells you what is at the center of the Rep heart , a $$$$ sign. Millions that can not be accounted for that was bagged and shipped to Iraq and we can't AFFORD something for the Vets' of this quagmire!!! Every parent of a soldier should be pissedoff about that...and loudly claim it.

As far as my voting for McCain...no way in hell!!! If the Rep's had another candicate other than McCain...I might consider them. I DO NOT follow the mantra of a Political Party and am not devoted to them by the party symbol in front of their name.

I know change is a scary word in Nebraska.....it puts fear in the soul....but the world is ready for a change.

Yes I said WORLD...as we are seen as the leader of the Free World...we need to change horses and bloodlines in this pony race of politics.
 

Soapweed

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kolanuraven said:
Soapweed said:
kolanuraven said:
(Cousin ) John Edwards goes with Obama!!!!

I say he's going for VP or Atty General.

So that makes kind of a personal dilema for you doesn't it, Kola? Won't it now be hard to know whether to vote for your lady, Hillary, or Obama with Cousin John? :???: :wink: Guess you could always solve the dilema and vote for John McCain. :)


I shall respond to your ' dig' in a proper way.

As far as McCain goes. I'm sure he's a polite man but he's too much like Bush as I see it. He's just more of the same. He waggles back and forth on issues and by that fact alone, it surprises me of your devotion to him. :???: :???:



As far as my voting for McCain...no way in hell!!! I know change is a scary word in Nebraska.....it puts fear in the soul....but the world is ready for a change.

Yes I said WORLD...as we are seen as the leader of the Free World...we need to change horses and bloodlines in this pony race of politics.

You do bring out some good points, Kola. If you think I am a strong McCain supporter, you are wrong. I don't like McCain, and I don't like Bush. The other fact is that I like Hillary, Obama, Gore, John Kerry, and even your cousin John Edwards even less. They might be okay people, but their liberal views will only serve to get us in more trouble. Bush and McCain are too liberal to suit me, but the Democrats in the race are even way more liberal.

We do need to change horses and bloodlines in this pony race of politics. We just need to get some genuine conservative bloodlines and change the bloodlines that way instead of going the liberal route.

For the record, I voted for Ron Paul in the Nebraska primary held this past Tuesday, not that the results of Nebraska's primary mean anything in the big scheme of things. If the present three are still in the Presidential race though, come fall, I will have to vote for McCain. He is still the least of the three evils.
 

TSR

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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
(Cousin ) John Edwards goes with Obama!!!!

I say he's going for VP or Atty General.

I don't really think it matters because he is toast and will loose by record numbers anyway he goes.

But this would really put the nail in his coffin if he goes for Edwards as VP. Like I said won't matter either way, but if he wanted to at least have a shot he needs to get a running mate that is a little more to the center. Obama is so liberal and picking someone that gives him a run for his money as who is the most liberal really is not going to help his cause.

Not sure who is out there for him to pick from but surely their is some Center Left people to pick from................

Shame that McCain is going to be busy because McCain would be the perfect Moderate Center Liberal Obama should be looking for. :lol:

Aplus, You may be right but the election is a long way off. I bet there are a lot of undecideds still out there. I wonder how McCain would fare in a debate with Obama?? And I know it won't happen but it would be nice if a 3rd party candidate would be invited to such a debate. I can't help but keep wondering if all those people who write in on Lou Dobb's saying they are registering as Independents are not representative of a much larger voting block than we might think? Question is, will they have the courage to vote their convictions or keep on doing like many and vote for the lesser of two evils for fear of "losing " their vote?
 

woranch

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Quote of the Day........'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama

kolanuraven"

Ibut the world is ready for a change.

Yes I said WORLD...as we are seen as the leader of the Free World...we need to change horses and bloodlines in this pony race of politics.
 

backhoeboogie

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woranch said:
My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama

If you are not bleeding, you don't need a bandage. :D :D

If you are not crying, you don't need a Kleenex. :D :D

Life is good. The dems are offering up a bandage and kleenex and I need neither.
 

kolanuraven

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backhoeboogie said:
woranch said:
My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama

If you are not bleeding, you don't need a bandage. :D :D

If you are not crying, you don't need a Kleenex. :D :D

Life is good. The dems are offering up a bandage and kleenex and I need neither.


Typical ' man' response and outlook. " If it ain't happening to me...it ain't happening" :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Kola "I know change is a scary word in Nebraska.....it puts fear in the soul....but the world is ready for a change. "

Seems to me that every other politician for as long as I can remember has ran on "Change" - and nothing ever is changed. Now, Barry-O is singing the same old song. Tell me, what exactly is he going to change? How is he going to do it? How about more than an overused slogan?
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
He's all for supporting the troops but against a bill to offer them free education upon their completion of 3 yrs of military service. He says we can't afford it??? We spend MILLIONS a day on the war. This makes no sense whatsoever.

Every parent you ask will tell you that they could not afford to loose their child either. That money is the factor in that bill...that alone tells you what is at the center of the Rep heart , a $$$$ sign. Millions that can not be accounted for that was bagged and shipped to Iraq and we can't AFFORD something for the Vets' of this quagmire!!! Every parent of a soldier should be pissedoff about that...and loudly claim it.

I am all for free education for anyone that wants it and especially the troops. But in reality a President has to look at the cost of things. In many ways he has to be able to separate emotion for fiscal reality on issues. Otherwise a person could get caught up in offering social programs left and right, much like the Liberals try to do.

Personally I am not very read on this issue and have no idea if the money could really be there or if the current education support the troops get is about as good as America can do financially.

I do know it is not just a decision a President should make on a it feels good and sounds good whim. Just like a good parent, a good President has to be able to say no sometimes as much as he would like to say yes. Those decisions are what make a good President.
 

kolanuraven

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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
He's all for supporting the troops but against a bill to offer them free education upon their completion of 3 yrs of military service. He says we can't afford it??? We spend MILLIONS a day on the war. This makes no sense whatsoever.

Every parent you ask will tell you that they could not afford to loose their child either. That money is the factor in that bill...that alone tells you what is at the center of the Rep heart , a $$$$ sign. Millions that can not be accounted for that was bagged and shipped to Iraq and we can't AFFORD something for the Vets' of this quagmire!!! Every parent of a soldier should be pissedoff about that...and loudly claim it.

I am all for free education for anyone that wants it and especially the troops. But in reality a President has to look at the cost of things. In many ways he has to be able to separate emotion for fiscal reality on issues. Otherwise a person could get caught up in offering social programs left and right, much like the Liberals try to do.

Personally I am not very read on this issue and have no idea if the money could really be there or if the current education support the troops get is about as good as America can do financially.

I do know it is not just a decision a President should make on a it feels good and sounds good whim. Just like a good parent, a good President has to be able to say no sometimes as much as he would like to say yes. Those decisions are what make a good President.


You're spewing a load of crap Aminus and you know it........

If this Pres is graded on a ' parental scale'.....he should locked up for abuse!
 

TSR

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kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
He's all for supporting the troops but against a bill to offer them free education upon their completion of 3 yrs of military service. He says we can't afford it??? We spend MILLIONS a day on the war. This makes no sense whatsoever.

Every parent you ask will tell you that they could not afford to loose their child either. That money is the factor in that bill...that alone tells you what is at the center of the Rep heart , a $$$$ sign. Millions that can not be accounted for that was bagged and shipped to Iraq and we can't AFFORD something for the Vets' of this quagmire!!! Every parent of a soldier should be pissedoff about that...and loudly claim it.

I am all for free education for anyone that wants it and especially the troops. But in reality a President has to look at the cost of things. In many ways he has to be able to separate emotion for fiscal reality on issues. Otherwise a person could get caught up in offering social programs left and right, much like the Liberals try to do.

Personally I am not very read on this issue and have no idea if the money could really be there or if the current education support the troops get is about as good as America can do financially.

I do know it is not just a decision a President should make on a it feels good and sounds good whim. Just like a good parent, a good President has to be able to say no sometimes as much as he would like to say yes. Those decisions are what make a good President.


You're spewing a load of crap Aminus and you know it........

If this Pres is graded on a ' parental scale'.....he should locked up for abuse!

Yep those millions that were shipped over there that can't be accounted for???Hmmm I would almost bet you they are accounted for but by only certain ones.
 

Sandhusker

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Sandhusker said:
Kola "I know change is a scary word in Nebraska.....it puts fear in the soul....but the world is ready for a change. "

Seems to me that every other politician for as long as I can remember has ran on "Change" - and nothing ever is changed. Now, Barry-O is singing the same old song. Tell me, what exactly is he going to change? How is he going to do it? How about more than an overused slogan?

I repeat the question; What and how? Come on, Kola, this is your boy.
 

kolanuraven

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Sandhusker said:
Sandhusker said:
Kola "I know change is a scary word in Nebraska.....it puts fear in the soul....but the world is ready for a change. "

Seems to me that every other politician for as long as I can remember has ran on "Change" - and nothing ever is changed. Now, Barry-O is singing the same old song. Tell me, what exactly is he going to change? How is he going to do it? How about more than an overused slogan?

I repeat the question; What and how? Come on, Kola, this is your boy.


He's not ' my boy'...as I stated before and you DID NOT read that I prefer Hillary.

How he's gonna change things? I'd say by being the ' change' himself will bring enough fresh air into DC.

Helles Belles.....McCain is saying practically the same thing...." change" is about every 3rd word in his sentences also.

I'd say the best description may be " out with the old...in with the new"
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
He's all for supporting the troops but against a bill to offer them free education upon their completion of 3 yrs of military service. He says we can't afford it??? We spend MILLIONS a day on the war. This makes no sense whatsoever.

Every parent you ask will tell you that they could not afford to loose their child either. That money is the factor in that bill...that alone tells you what is at the center of the Rep heart , a $$$$ sign. Millions that can not be accounted for that was bagged and shipped to Iraq and we can't AFFORD something for the Vets' of this quagmire!!! Every parent of a soldier should be pissedoff about that...and loudly claim it.

I am all for free education for anyone that wants it and especially the troops. But in reality a President has to look at the cost of things. In many ways he has to be able to separate emotion for fiscal reality on issues. Otherwise a person could get caught up in offering social programs left and right, much like the Liberals try to do.

Personally I am not very read on this issue and have no idea if the money could really be there or if the current education support the troops get is about as good as America can do financially.

I do know it is not just a decision a President should make on a it feels good and sounds good whim. Just like a good parent, a good President has to be able to say no sometimes as much as he would like to say yes. Those decisions are what make a good President.


You're spewing a load of crap Aminus and you know it........

If this Pres is graded on a ' parental scale'.....he should locked up for abuse!

I think the crap may be coming from your end, if you think the president can just ok any program no matter what the cost. There are lots of nice things that could be done if the money is there, but if the money is not there they have to be vetoed no matter how nice it would be.

Like I said I don't know if America could afford such a program or not, and I doubt you know either. It would take some serious financial planning and evaluating where the money would come from. But you Libs just want to dream up all kind of cool things that make you feel all fuzzy and warm inside with out any regards towards the practicality of them.
 
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Anonymous

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Maybe with CHANGE- we can get teachers back to being teachers instead of test givers- we can get teachers and educational professionals, along with the state education leaders and the local school boards deciding what should be taught- and how it should be taught rather than a FEDERAL "No Child Left Behind" policy that cares more if you can take and pass a test- than on what you learn :shock: :( :( :mad:
That whole decision should be in the hands of the State and local folks- and was before GW raped our States rights......

To me its a sad day in Hates when our President thinks more of our troops and our kids as Cannon Fodder not worth educating- and paying out triple the pay and benefits to his elitist buddy Blackwater/Halliburton contracted mercenaries (whose execs he can't play golf with anymore in show of respect for the troops :roll: :wink: :lol: :p )--but he knows quite well that if he offers the benefits these folks should be getting- he won't be able to keep up his short term manpower (which already is stretched well beyond limits) to keep up his neocon nationbuilding efforts... :(

The military already has had to lower its recruitment standards back to waiving felonies- like the old days of Vietnam- to get enough warm bodies to bleed for them......... :( :(
 

fff

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Bush and the Republican Congress never gave a thought to where the money was coming from to fund the Iraq war, $2 Billion+ each and every week. Now that Webb is trying to get educational benefits for the troops that BUSH sent to Iraq, suddenly there are financial considerations? Webb has half a dozen Republican and Demcoratic co-sponsors for the bill. McCain is missing the boat AGAIN. IMO, he's going to be terrible candidate in the general election. The "liberal" press is no longer going to be able to cover for him as he continues to support Bush's tired, old failed policies. Take his recent speech about how wonderful it will be in Iraq by 2013. That comes right out of Bush's playbook: "trust me, give me another four years, a $tillion more debt, hundreds more dead, wounded, mained soldiers, and everything will be ok." I don't and it hasn't.
 
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