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Japan suspends beef imports from US plant

rkaiser

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From what I read Big Muddy - Dr. do - little Evans passed the buck back to "industry" for not pressing for testing. "Industry" means the packer led CCA and your puppet SSGA. Did you read the article that way bud?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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rkaiser said:
From what I read Big Muddy - Dr. do - little Evans passed the buck back to "industry" for not pressing for testing. "Industry" means the packer led CCA and your puppet SSGA. Did you read the article that way bud?

He was also said to have made a remark at a CBEF meeting that if someone had a market for tested beef that they would let them test. That is not probably verbatum as i was not at that meeting. Best talk to Dr. Evans personally or at least someone at the CBEF meeting.
 

Tex

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Big Muddy rancher said:
rkaiser said:
From what I read Big Muddy - Dr. do - little Evans passed the buck back to "industry" for not pressing for testing. "Industry" means the packer led CCA and your puppet SSGA. Did you read the article that way bud?

He was also said to have made a remark at a CBEF meeting that if someone had a market for tested beef that they would let them test. That is not probably verbatum as i was not at that meeting. Best talk to Dr. Evans personally or at least someone at the CBEF meeting.

So you got the chicken or the egg argument, eh, BM? "There has to be a market for it before we will allow it, but you can't offer it because we don't allow it."

What a bunch of crock!!!!
 

rkaiser

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Big Muddy -
He was also said to have made a remark at a CBEF meeting that if someone had a market for tested beef that they would let them test. That is not probably verbatum as i was not at that meeting. Best talk to Dr. Evans personally or at least someone at the CBEF meeting.

So if Evans is saying that testing would be okay :roll: and we already know that CBEF has done enough background work to say it could work to open markets-------- Why is it that SSGA - ABP - and good old CCA don't come right out and say that they were wrong about the testing issue and that they support testing as a marketing tool and want the packers in Canada to embrace it? Too much pride Big Muddy - or could it be that the packers still pull the strings in the above mentioned organizations?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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rkaiser said:
Big Muddy -
He was also said to have made a remark at a CBEF meeting that if someone had a market for tested beef that they would let them test. That is not probably verbatum as i was not at that meeting. Best talk to Dr. Evans personally or at least someone at the CBEF meeting.

So if Evans is saying that testing would be okay :roll: and we already know that CBEF has done enough background work to say it could work to open markets-------- Why is it that SSGA - ABP - and good old CCA don't come right out and say that they were wrong about the testing issue and that they support testing as a marketing tool and want the packers in Canada to embrace it? Too much pride Big Muddy - or could it be that the packers still pull the strings in the above mentioned organizations?



Well Randy we can only work with what we know. The only opportunity that has come forward to my knowledge is with the same outfit that hung a bunch of hog producers around Moose Jaw. That doesn't give much confidence to a deal. Why don't you jump on this chance and see if they are as good as their word and sell some of that Celtic beef to the Scots. Hope you do well.
 

rkaiser

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As soon as you and the rest of the gang in our industry leadership :roll: embrace the idea and tell us to go ahead --- we'll be all over it. In the mean time you and your gang are still the "voice of the producer" :roll: and the government still takes what you say as best.

How bout it Big Muddy - are you going to push for testing for marketing puposes?
 

flounder

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Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Safety Measures in Japan



Kazuya YAMANOUCHI1) and Yasuhiro YOSHIKAWA2)

1) Nippon Institute for Biological Science
2) Department of Biomedical Science, Graduate School of Agriculture and Life Science, The University of Tokyo

(Received 14-Jul-2006)
(Accepted 28-Sep-2006)


ABSTRACT. Since the first identification of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in Japan in September 2001, a series of safety measures was introduced by the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare and the Food Safety Commission of the Cabinet Office. These measures included blanket BSE testing and removal of specified risk materials at slaughterhouses, surveillance of risk animals and a ban on the use of meat-and-bone meals and traceability on all farms. The Japanese experience over the past five years has shed light on several issues in countries that have a low BSE incidence.


SEE FULL TEXT ;


http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jvms/69/1/1/_pdf



Recent Developments in Prion Disease Research: Diagnostic Tools and In Vitro Cell Culture Models



Akikazu SAKUDO1)2), Izuru NAKAMURA1)2), Kazuyoshi IKUTA2) and Takashi ONODERA1)

1) Department of Molecular Immunology, School of Agricultural and Life Sciences, The University of Tokyo
2) Department of Virology, Research Institute for Microbial Diseases, Osaka University

(Received 6-Sep-2006)
(Accepted 18-Dec-2006)


ABSTRACT. After prion infection, an abnormal isoform of prion protein (PrPSc) converts the cellular isoform of prion protein (PrPC) into PrPSc. PrPC-to-PrPSc conversion leads to PrPSc accumulation and PrPC deficiency, contributing etiologically to induction of prion diseases. Presently, most of the diagnostic methods for prion diseases are dependent on PrPSc detection. Highly sensitive/accurate specific detection of PrPSc in many different samples is a prerequisite for attempts to develop reliable detection methods. Towards this goal, several methods have recently been developed to facilitate sensitive and precise detection of PrPSc, namely, protein misfolding cyclic amplification, conformation-dependent immunoassay, dissociation-enhanced lanthanide fluorescent immunoassay, capillary gel electrophoresis, fluorescence correlation spectroscopy, flow microbead immunoassay, etc. Additionally, functionally relevant prion-susceptible cell culture models that recognize the complexity of the mechanisms of prion infection have also been pursued, not only in relation to diagnosis, but also in relation to prion biology. Prion protein (PrP) gene-deficient neuronal cell lines that can clearly elucidate PrPC functions would contribute to understanding of the prion infection mechanism. In this review, we describe the trend in recent development of diagnostic methods and cell culture models for prion diseases and their potential applications in prion biology.



FULL TEXT ;


http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jvms/69/4/329/_pdf


TSS
 

Big Muddy rancher

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rkaiser said:
As soon as you and the rest of the gang in our industry leadership :roll: embrace the idea and tell us to go ahead --- we'll be all over it. In the mean time you and your gang are still the "voice of the producer" :roll: and the government still takes what you say as best.

How bout it Big Muddy - are you going to push for testing for marketing puposes?


Randy since when do you wait for permission to do anything?

Word is that they are just waiting for someone to ask.
Maybe when you moved east you should have come a little farther then you could have run for the SSGA .
 

rkaiser

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Who are "they" Big Muddy? "They" should be the producers of this country led by our industry leadership. "We" need to tell Cargill at High River and Tyson at Brooks (the only two companies with potential to export anything from this bloody country) that "we" want them to prove that they are truly Canadian based companies and will do what Canada and it's producers want them to do. So when are "we" going to get on with it Big Muddy?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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rkaiser said:
Who are "they" Big Muddy? "They" should be the producers of this country led by our industry leadership. "We" need to tell Cargill at High River and Tyson at Brooks (the only two companies with potential to export anything from this bloody country) that "we" want them to prove that they are truly Canadian based companies and will do what Canada and it's producers want them to do. So when are "we" going to get on with it Big Muddy?[/quote


They are the CFIA.

Are you a ABP delegate yet?
 

Mike

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Word is that they are just waiting for someone to ask.

This statement is pure unadulterated BS. :roll: :roll: :roll:

The Japs started asking for testing in the beginning of 2004. :mad:
 

Mike

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Word is that they are just waiting for someone to ask.

This statement is pure unadulterated BS. :roll: :roll: :roll:

The Japs started asking for testing in the beginning of 2004. :mad:

So Mike you were at the CBEF meeting in Calgary?

I didn't have to be to see through your statement.

Why don't you tell us who said it, and what context it was said in. Sounds like your spreading a BS rumor to me.

Are you denying that the Japs started asking for testing, beginning in early 2004? :roll:
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
This statement is pure unadulterated BS. :roll: :roll: :roll:

The Japs started asking for testing in the beginning of 2004. :mad:

So Mike you were at the CBEF meeting in Calgary?

I didn't have to be to see through your statement.

Why don't you tell us who said it, and what context it was said in. Sounds like your spreading a BS rumor to me.

Are you denying that the Japs started asking for testing, beginning in early 2004? :roll:

Mike I said Dr Evans of the CFIA.

Also the Chair of CBEF Ben Thorlakson in 2005 came to the SSGA convention and put forth a resolution the the SSGA membership supported to allow a trial run of "Testing for market acess".
 

Mike

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
So Mike you were at the CBEF meeting in Calgary?

I didn't have to be to see through your statement.

Why don't you tell us who said it, and what context it was said in. Sounds like your spreading a BS rumor to me.

Are you denying that the Japs started asking for testing, beginning in early 2004? :roll:

Mike I said Dr Evans of the CFIA.

Also the Chair of CBEF Ben Thorlakson in 2005 came to the SSGA convention and put forth a resolution the the SSGA membership supported to allow a trial run of "Testing for market acess".

Sounds like a half-assed attempt to cover up their/your mistake of not allowing testing for opening markets to me.

Bottom line is: The Japs asked for tested animals, Canada and the U.S. wouldn't give it to them because the big packers didn't want to test.



BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS
 

RobertMac

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
So Mike you were at the CBEF meeting in Calgary?

I didn't have to be to see through your statement.

Why don't you tell us who said it, and what context it was said in. Sounds like your spreading a BS rumor to me.

Are you denying that the Japs started asking for testing, beginning in early 2004? :roll:

Mike I said Dr Evans of the CFIA.

Also the Chair of CBEF Ben Thorlakson in 2005 came to the SSGA convention and put forth a resolution the the SSGA membership supported to allow a trial run of "Testing for market acess".

BMR, this shows the problem of not having your own independent, Canadian processing industry! Tyson and Cargill bought it for pennies on the dollar!
 

Big Muddy rancher

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RobertMac said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
I didn't have to be to see through your statement.

Why don't you tell us who said it, and what context it was said in. Sounds like your spreading a BS rumor to me.

Are you denying that the Japs started asking for testing, beginning in early 2004? :roll:

Mike I said Dr Evans of the CFIA.

Also the Chair of CBEF Ben Thorlakson in 2005 came to the SSGA convention and put forth a resolution the the SSGA membership supported to allow a trial run of "Testing for market acess".

BMR, this shows the problem of not having your own independent, Canadian processing industry! Tyson and Cargill bought it for pennies on the dollar!


I don't know if it's funny or sad but they"Cargill and Tyson" own yours as well.
 

RobertMac

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Big Muddy rancher said:
RobertMac said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike I said Dr Evans of the CFIA.

Also the Chair of CBEF Ben Thorlakson in 2005 came to the SSGA convention and put forth a resolution the the SSGA membership supported to allow a trial run of "Testing for market acess".

BMR, this shows the problem of not having your own independent, Canadian processing industry! Tyson and Cargill bought it for pennies on the dollar!


I don't know if it's funny or sad but they"Cargill and Tyson" own yours as well.

Oh, IT'S SAD!!!!
 

PORKER

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Japan bans beef from another U.S. plant

(MEATPOULTRY.com, October 18, 2007)
by MEAT&POULTRY Staff

Source of Article: http://www.meatnews.com/news/headline_stories.asp?ArticleID=88906

TOKYO ― Japan announced it has suspended beef imports from Cargill Inc.’s beef packing plant in Dodge City, Kan., Oct. 17 because recent shipments from the plant contained tendons that reportedly were not identified properly on accompanying papers, according to the Associated Press.

Two hundred twenty-five boxes of a recent 9-ton shipment contained tendons that were not properly identified on papers issued by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, stated Japan's Agriculture Ministry. Shipments from this plant to Japan will remain banned until Japan gets a detailed explanation on how this happened, Japan's Agriculture Ministry added.

In December 2003, Japan halted American beef imports in the wake of the first bovine spongiform encephalopathy find in the United States. In July 2006, Japan eased that restriction to allow imported meat from young cattle as long as certain bones and the spinal cord had been removed and the meat had been processed at selected plants.

Tendons do not pose a mad cow risk, but Cargill reportedly acknowledged that boxes bound for other destinations inadvertently might have been sent to Japan. A Cargill spokesman said the U.S.D.A. is looking into how the tendons got into the shipment.
 

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