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jeb bush, to the bat cave!

littlejoe

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perennial second place finishers newest dope---yup, another bush!

sure==he's smarter than palin, who the f ain't?

enyway, lookin like he's haided to the bat cave.

Lord have mercy!

only thing American folks got going is this:

he's affiliated with the party that big O--Obama, no less, beat twice, no less!!

sadly, the comedy continues....


November 1, 2014
Jeb Bush, to the Bat Cave!

“Several of our boys were pallbearers—maybe all of them—but the one I remember is Jeb,” Barbara Bush wrote in an account, in her memoirs, of her father-in-law’s funeral. Jeb was her second son:


He was a student at the University of Texas, nineteen years old, six feet four inches tall. Remember, this was the early 1970′s. He, of course, did not have a dark suit. He told me not to worry—he’d borrowed one. I should have kept worrying. It was black corduroy. He is the most handsome man (at least according to his mother) and that saved him. Otherwise, he would have looked like a card shark from Las Vegas

It is a quintessential Bush family moment: an establishment premise streaked with clumsy absurdity, with the participants mysteriously pleased about how it all looks—convinced that their fine qualities have saved them. This was October, 1972, during a period in which Jeb’s older brother, George W. Bush, was in something of a Vegas-card-shark phase. Their grandfather, Prescott Bush, who was being buried that day, had been a banker and Connecticut Senator; their father, George H. W. Bush, had made a good deal of money in the oil business and was serving as Ambassador to the United Nations. George W. had just been rejected by the University of Texas Law School and was drinking too much in all the wrong places, including behind the wheel of a car—maybe best not to remember that. The Bushes have always thought, to an extent that can, frankly, be puzzling for anyone who simply watches his speeches or assesses his record, that Jeb was their child of destiny. When Barbara Bush’s memoir came out, in 1994, after her husband’s one-term Presidency, the family thought that Jeb, not George, would be the next President Bush. The Bushes have never hidden their surprise that it didn’t work out that way, and now, according to multiple press reports, they have again become worked up about the idea that the man in the black corduroy suit can make it to the White House. But why should he?



“If it’s a ‘yes,’ I guess you go into the Bat Cave,” Jeb Bush said in a talk at Vanderbilt this week, when he was asked if he might run in 2016, according to the Tennessean. “Try to parse superhuman skills, which I will definitely need because I’m imperfect in every way.” He added, “I’m not like really freaking out about this decision, to be honest with you.” He has made himself a part of the midterms, campaigning for Republicans in Colorado, South Carolina, Florida, and elsewhere.

“I think it’s more than likely that he’s giving this a serious thought in moving forward,” George P. Bush, Jeb’s son, told ABC. George P. is running himself, for Texas Land Commissioner. “I, of course, was pushing him to run for President. He, of course, was saying, ‘I haven’t made up my mind.’ … I think he wants to be President,” George W. Bush told Fox News. “People are getting fired up about it—donors and people who have been around the political process for a while, people he’s known in Tallahassee, when he was governor. The family, we’re geared up either way,” Jeb, Jr., told the Times. “They’re like horses in the stall waiting for the gate to break,” a “family insider” told the paper. “They’re all jumping up and down.”

Why is it that so many people, in and out of the Republican Party, continue to bounce along with the Bush family? It is an article of faith with that crowd that Jeb is a natural leader. And yet his presence reminds one of Play-Doh left out of the container too long. One can’t quite decide whether he’s made of putty or chalk. He is given points both for being his father’s son and for not being his brother—which is somehow what passes for a meritocratic award. The odd idea is that, after one mediocre Bush Presidency and one failed one, it would be a matter of simple fairness to try a third. This can’t be what passes for equal opportunity in America.

Jeb was governor of Florida, so that’s one swing state down, but, other than that, his career has been episodic, a list of jobs with his father’s campaigns and with too many companies that seem, at least in part, to be most interested in his name and connections. (This included a stint with Lehman, before it went under.) His wife, Columba, was born in Mexico, and Jeb speaks Spanish and talks about immigration in terms of love: the idea is that this will get the Hispanic vote. Columba also doesn’t much like campaigning, and was once stopped by customs for not declaring that she’d bought almost twenty thousand dollars’ worth of clothes and jewelry in Paris. In other areas, Jeb could only be called a moderate in comparison to Ted Cruz—but that, perhaps, is the point.


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The Jeb Bush Bat Signal has been triggered, first, by Republican alarm at the lack of a candidate that the G.O.P. establishment views as entirely respectable. Cruz or Rand Paul? Chris Christie keeps yelling at everyone. We are hearing about Jeb for the same reason that people mention Romney with a perfectly straight face: the alternatives. Sane people or those not raised for it don’t seem to want to be politicians anymore. The G.O.P. may not like what it’s seeing, but it’s a bad sign if a major party just stops looking for new voices. The same holds for the Democrats.

And that is a second factor: Hillary Clinton and the sense that her candidacy might neutralize some of the strongest arguments against Jeb Bush. Those who would vote against either out of a belief that dynasties aren’t healthy for democracies, and that maybe four out of five Presidents in a row shouldn’t be named Clinton or Bush, would have no one to vote for. The Hillary camp might see the same comfort in Jeb’s presence. Allies of both have dismissed questions about the business and financial connections that they’ve made by talking about how old certain stories are, and how thoroughly they were vetted way back when, as if one can’t ask about transactions that have taken place since. Perhaps, with both on the ballot, there would be a non-aggression pact on questions of personal finance and money connections—and indiscreet relatives—in what is already looking to be an election cycle marked by historic levels of crass and unregulated spending. They may envision an orderly election, built around a simple question: Do you like Clinton years better than Bush ones? Those are not the only two kinds. The goal might be to fend off populists and malcontents, but the effect may be to engineer mass disillusion in politics. The public doesn’t look at the candidates, lined up for a debate, as proud parents do, just pleased if one is tall and handsome. They can also forget the whole thing, and walk away.














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Conservatives Freaking Out at a Possible Bush Run in 2016

At the Freedom Summit in New Hampshire, conservatives booed the name of former Florida governor Jeb Bush whenever it came up. They are scared to death of him running for President in 2016 because they intuitively know that he isn't their man and also that the donor class would shower large amounts of money on him.

Ideologically, they have two bones to pick with him. First, he wants immigration overhaul, which they think of as "amnesty." Second, he supports the Common Core educational standards, which were devised by the National Governors' Association. Among other things, Common Core would mean that schools would not be free to teach Genesis on equal terms with evolution in science classes.
In addition, many of them agree with Barbara Bush, who once said "We've had enough Bushes."

Erick Erickson, founder of the blog RedState, summed up the situation by saying the Republicans will not do well by emulating the Democrats: "Let's go forward by going backward." If Bush decides to run, he will be met with ferocious opposition from conservatives who see him as more McCain and Romney, whom they despised.
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Conservatives Freaking Out at a Possible Bush Run in 2016

At the Freedom Summit in New Hampshire, conservatives booed the name of former Florida governor Jeb Bush whenever it came up. They are scared to death of him running for President in 2016 because they intuitively know that he isn't their man and also that the donor class would shower large amounts of money on him.

Ideologically, they have two bones to pick with him. First, he wants immigration overhaul, which they think of as "amnesty." Second, he supports the Common Core educational standards, which were devised by the National Governors' Association. Among other things, Common Core would mean that schools would not be free to teach Genesis on equal terms with evolution in science classes.
In addition, many of them agree with Barbara Bush, who once said "We've had enough Bushes."

Erick Erickson, founder of the blog RedState, summed up the situation by saying the Republicans will not do well by emulating the Democrats: "Let's go forward by going backward." If Bush decides to run, he will be met with ferocious opposition from conservatives who see him as more McCain and Romney, whom they despised.

maybe he should run against Hillery in the democratic primary... that way when he loses,.. we would at least have a chance at it with a republican....

and if he wins.. well it would be better then having another obummer...
 

Steve

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If Bush decides to run, he will be met with ferocious opposition from conservatives who see him as more McCain and Romney, whom they despised.

and considering how "independent" you are... which of those three would you vote for today against Hillery or Elizabeth Warren?
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Conservatives Freaking Out at a Possible Bush Run in 2016

At the Freedom Summit in New Hampshire, conservatives booed the name of former Florida governor Jeb Bush whenever it came up. They are scared to death of him running for President in 2016 because they intuitively know that he isn't their man and also that the donor class would shower large amounts of money on him.

Ideologically, they have two bones to pick with him. First, he wants immigration overhaul, which they think of as "amnesty." Second, he supports the Common Core educational standards, which were devised by the National Governors' Association. Among other things, Common Core would mean that schools would not be free to teach Genesis on equal terms with evolution in science classes.
In addition, many of them agree with Barbara Bush, who once said "We've had enough Bushes."

Erick Erickson, founder of the blog RedState, summed up the situation by saying the Republicans will not do well by emulating the Democrats: "Let's go forward by going backward." If Bush decides to run, he will be met with ferocious opposition from conservatives who see him as more McCain and Romney, whom they despised.

Haven't you told us a thousand times that pubs do whatever their handlers tell them?
 

loomixguy

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The Fatman probably already sent his vote in for Hillary in the 2016 election. You know, cause it's so phucking hard to make it to the polls with only a 12 hour window.
 

mrj

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What a country! Where 'reporters' or 'journalists' seem to be able to make a living trashing innocent parents who are proud of the children they raised. Like many families, they have not had problem free lives. Who of us hasn't? Some of you jumping in to criticize the Bush family should maybe consider your own closets!

Where people who go about their lives trying to do good at their work and in the process become wealthy, are 'fair game' for those 'reporter types' to trash however they choose, using their own version of 'facts', for the most part.

In fact, where people who are even perceived to have 'more' than others, however they may have 'earned' that 'more', are fair game for anyone with a mean spirit believing the way to make themselves 'bigger' is to cut down others.

One thing that the author of that hit piece needs to refresh her facts on is our nation: the USA is a democratic republic, NOT a democracy! Vive la difference!

mrj
 
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Steve said:
If Bush decides to run, he will be met with ferocious opposition from conservatives who see him as more McCain and Romney, whom they despised.

and considering how "independent" you are... which of those three would you vote for today against Hillery or Elizabeth Warren?

McCain can't get over wanting to invade or bomb every country in the world... I just couldn't bring myself to vote for another Bush altho I didn't think Daddy Bush was that bad...Which I guess leaves me Romney ....

But hopefully I have other choices in 2016- like Rand Paul or even Gary Johnson again... I would love to see John Huntsman vie for the Libertarian nomination- but I doubt if he will... Some folks that are conservative but tolerant to the changing world and willing/not afraid to look at new ways to handle some of those issues..
 

loomixguy

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
If Bush decides to run, he will be met with ferocious opposition from conservatives who see him as more McCain and Romney, whom they despised.

and considering how "independent" you are... which of those three would you vote for today against Hillery or Elizabeth Warren?

McCain can't get over wanting to invade or bomb every country in the world... I just couldn't bring myself to vote for another Bush altho I didn't think Daddy Bush was that bad...Which I guess leaves me Romney ....

But hopefully I have other choices in 2016- like Rand Paul or even Gary Johnson again... I would love to see John Huntsman vie for the Libertarian nomination- but I doubt if he will... Some folks that are conservative but tolerant to the changing world and willing/not afraid to look at new ways to handle some of those issues..

The above quote from the Fatman is Fatman code speak for:
1. I couldn't vote for Romney, cause he's a Mormon....and
2. I just can't wait to vote for "What difference does it make" Hillary in 2016.
 
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Cruz Wants to Make the Senate Like the House

If the Republicans capture the Senate, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) plans to declare war on the Obama administration, with endless attacks and investigations. This will raise his profile for a 2016 presidential run. It will also be a major headache for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) if he is majority leader.

McConnell is more concerned with how the Republicans will do in 2016, not how far right the Senate can move. He knows that there will be pressure on the Republicans to show they can govern.If 2016 rolls around and all Congress has done is investigate Obama, it will be hard to convince the voters that the Republicans should be given the keys to the White House. So expect big battles between Cruz and McConnell if the GOP wins the Senate, which seems more likely than not based on the polls.

Anyway you look at it Repubs are going to have to step up or Hillary will be a shoo-in... The demographics of the country are against the Republicans being able to win a national election ever again unless they can greatly enlarge their tent and their appeal to many groups...

Senator Rand Paul "the party has to change"




Today on CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) speaks to Candy Crowley from the campaign trail about his hopes for shifting the balance of power in the Senate towards a Republican majority on Tuesday, the Ebola quarantine, and the 2016 presidential election.


TEXT HIGHLIGHTS

On the Republican brand’s appeal to minorities: “Our brand is so broken that we can’t even break through that wall that’s out there.”

On President Obama guaranteeing GOP success in the midterm elections: “I think the wind's at our back. I think this election is going to be a referendum on the president. Even he acknowledged his policies will be on the ballot. And he will be indirectly on the ballot and there's a great deal of unhappiness that feels like our country, that he promised he would be beyond things, that he was going to be a uniter, not a divider.”

On campaigning for the GOP: “I won't deny that it would help me if I do decide to run for president, to travel to 32 states and to be part of helping the Republican team on board. But I also do it because whether I run or not - and I haven't decided - but whether I run or not, I do want the Republican Party to be bigger and more successful because I think our philosophy will help the country more.”

On an Ebola quarantine: “the Libertarian in me is sort of horrified at the indefinitely detaining or retaining anyone without a trial.”
Entire interview and video:
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2014/11/02/senator-rand-paul-the-party-has-to-change/

Here is a picture that is circulating amongst several conservative/Republican women on Face Book this morning pointing out how they need to weed out the nutcases in the party if they ever want to again get the women's vote in a national election:
 
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Whitewing said:
You sure spend a lot of time defending abortion OT. Has your meth-head daughter had one? Several?

I don't know where you see that post is defending abortion... Just as I have no idea whether my 36 year old daughter had an abortion...

But it sure shows the intolerance the radical right has to women...

Comical- she's clean for years- gets her college degree- then takes some pills to try and lose some weight and gets hooked on them-- and is now paying the penalty---- and you use it to attack ME.....
BUT when your hero's Rush, Betty Ford, Cindy McCain did the same that was quite alright....So rich Republican folks getting addicted is OK- but a middle class mother gets addicted - and she's fair game to call every nasty name in the book... Even going so low as to attack her teenage kids... :(

Again- use my kid(s) to attack me all you want-- as I love to show people that that is what the Tea Party/radical right extremism is made of- People that can only hate and fearmonger ...

Sorry Charlie-- I'm not Alice, Mrs. Greg, Reader2, and the other ladies you fine folks could intimidate and run off the site because they dared to think for themselves- and thru out ideas that didn't follow the cult teachings... I'm not leaving...
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
You sure spend a lot of time defending abortion OT. Has your meth-head daughter had one? Several?

I don't know where you see that post is defending abortion... Just as I have no idea whether my 36 year old daughter had an abortion...

But it sure shows the intolerance the radical right has to women...

Comical- she's clean for years- gets her college degree- then takes some pills to try and lose some weight and gets hooked on them-- and is now paying the penalty---- and you use it to attack ME.....
BUT when your hero's Rush, Betty Ford, Cindy McCain did the same that was quite alright....So rich Republican folks getting addicted is OK- but a middle class mother gets addicted - and she's fair game to call every nasty name in the book... Even going so low as to attack her teenage kids... :(

Again- use my kid(s) to attack me all you want-- as I love to show people that that is what the Tea Party/radical right extremism is made of- People that can only hate and fearmonger ...

Sorry Charlie-- I'm not Alice, Mrs. Greg, Reader2, and the other ladies you fine folks could intimidate and run off the site because they dared to think for themselves- and thru out ideas that didn't follow the cult teachings... I'm not leaving...

:lol: Struck a nerve?

Don't get those size 84 panties of yours in such a wad there big guy. I just asked the question because it's been proven so many times that the stands you take often are later revealed to have benefited you personally in some fashion.

And what the hell kind of diet pill was she taking? Lose weight the meth way? You did tell us she was using meth, no?
 

Larrry

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Oldtimer said:
But it sure shows the intolerance the radical right has to women...

You forgot to mention the complete and utter disregard from the left has to innocent babies. Does it make you beam with pride when a baby is killed
 

Whitewing

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Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
But it sure shows the intolerance the radical right has to women...

You forgot to mention the complete and utter disregard from the left has to innocent babies. Does it make you beam with pride when a baby is killed

Well, his Messiah couldn't even bring himself to vote against giving a doctor the right to remove the viable child feet-first leaving most of the head just inside the vaginal canal and then jamming a pair of scissors into the base of the skull and sucking the child's brain out.

So, yes, he beams with pride.
 
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Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
But it sure shows the intolerance the radical right has to women...

You forgot to mention the complete and utter disregard from the left has to innocent babies. Does it make you beam with pride when a baby is killed

The Left may have utter disregard - that doesn't mean I do... I am not in favor of women having abortions...

But I just don't think government (which for years has consisted of old grey haired white men sitting in D.C.) should be the decision makers...

I feel that the decision should be left to the woman, after consultation with her Doctor and her God...
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
But it sure shows the intolerance the radical right has to women...

You forgot to mention the complete and utter disregard from the left has to innocent babies. Does it make you beam with pride when a baby is killed

The Left may have utter disregard - that doesn't mean I do... I am not in favor of women having abortions...

But I just don't think government (which for years has consisted of old grey haired white men sitting in D.C.) should be the decision makers...

I feel that the decision should be left to the woman, after consultation with her Doctor and her God...

We know what God thinks about it. He told us !!!!! Guess it's just the woman's right to condemn her child to death in order to maintain her "freedom" to do with her body what she pleases. Even a bytch dog mourns the loss of a baby but not these people.
 

loomixguy

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Oldtimer said:
Sorry Charlie-- I'm not Alice, Mrs. Greg, Reader2, and the other ladies you fine folks could intimidate and run off the site because they dared to think for themselves- and thru out ideas that didn't follow the cult teachings... I'm not leaving...

I guess not....but that didn't stop you from lying out your arse when you said you were leaving... :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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